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		By: John Kreber		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Kreber]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2014 19:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The FBI seems to be helping out the GOP, without all political insider junk.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The FBI seems to be helping out the GOP, without all political insider junk.</p>
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		By: Bill Gore		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/04/03/ca-gop-stays-neutral-on-new-electoral-college-initiative/#comment-76616</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Gore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2014 15:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So this is where the 2 party=1 party system has left us: endless gaming of the system to try and get our &#039;team&#039; in power, as if it would make any difference.

The Constitution is a very distant memory at this point (EXCEPT for the Commerce Clause-that one little shred of the Constitution is very alive and well), we have no rights and citizenship means nothing.

If we could somehow start again, fighting off the ravenous hordes of special interests armed with their lawyers, guns and money, we would have to build a classical Swiss governing system. Hell, lets just take the entire CH constitution and adopt it in its entirety. Total absolute local control. A ceremonial presidency that rotates among legislators and has NO executive power. Voters have TOTAL control on every issue. All federal power devolves to the states. That would be  a start.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So this is where the 2 party=1 party system has left us: endless gaming of the system to try and get our &#8216;team&#8217; in power, as if it would make any difference.</p>
<p>The Constitution is a very distant memory at this point (EXCEPT for the Commerce Clause-that one little shred of the Constitution is very alive and well), we have no rights and citizenship means nothing.</p>
<p>If we could somehow start again, fighting off the ravenous hordes of special interests armed with their lawyers, guns and money, we would have to build a classical Swiss governing system. Hell, lets just take the entire CH constitution and adopt it in its entirety. Total absolute local control. A ceremonial presidency that rotates among legislators and has NO executive power. Voters have TOTAL control on every issue. All federal power devolves to the states. That would be  a start.</p>
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		By: toto		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/04/03/ca-gop-stays-neutral-on-new-electoral-college-initiative/#comment-76439</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[toto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2014 21:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s be clear.  The few Republicans on record who want to split state electoral votes in states that have recently voted Democratic in presidential elections, have not introduced legislation or initiatives to split electoral votes in states that recently voted Republican in presidential elections. 

Obvious unprincipled partisan attempts, like Nickle&#039;s initiative, make the case for the National Popular Vote plan all the stronger.  The National Popular Vote system, in which all voters across the country are guaranteed to be politically relevant and treated equally, is needed now more than ever.

More than 2,110 state legislators (in 50 states) have sponsored and/or cast recorded votes in favor of the National Popular Vote bill.  The bill has passed 33 state legislative chambers in 22 rural, small, medium, and large states with 250 electoral votes. The bill has been enacted by 10 jurisdictions with 136 electoral votes – 50.4% of the 270 necessary to go into effect. If Governor Cuomo signs the bill on his desk in New York, it will be at 165 electoral votes - 61%.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s be clear.  The few Republicans on record who want to split state electoral votes in states that have recently voted Democratic in presidential elections, have not introduced legislation or initiatives to split electoral votes in states that recently voted Republican in presidential elections. </p>
<p>Obvious unprincipled partisan attempts, like Nickle&#8217;s initiative, make the case for the National Popular Vote plan all the stronger.  The National Popular Vote system, in which all voters across the country are guaranteed to be politically relevant and treated equally, is needed now more than ever.</p>
<p>More than 2,110 state legislators (in 50 states) have sponsored and/or cast recorded votes in favor of the National Popular Vote bill.  The bill has passed 33 state legislative chambers in 22 rural, small, medium, and large states with 250 electoral votes. The bill has been enacted by 10 jurisdictions with 136 electoral votes – 50.4% of the 270 necessary to go into effect. If Governor Cuomo signs the bill on his desk in New York, it will be at 165 electoral votes &#8211; 61%.</p>
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		By: toto		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/04/03/ca-gop-stays-neutral-on-new-electoral-college-initiative/#comment-76438</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[toto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2014 20:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Of course ‘National Popular Vote’ is really nice and democratic. It is &quot;One man, one vote.”  

It ensures that every voter is equal, every voter will matter, in every state, in every presidential election, and the candidate with the most votes wins, as in virtually every other election in the country.
	
Under National Popular Vote, every voter, everywhere, would be politically relevant and equal in every presidential election. Every vote would be included in the state counts and national count. 
	
 With National Popular Vote, every popular vote, everywhere would be counted equally for, and directly assist, the candidate for whom it was cast. 

Candidates would need to care about voters across the nation, not just undecided voters in a handful of swing states. The political reality would be that when every voter is equal, the campaign must be run in every part of the country.

When and where voters matter, then so do the issues they care about most.

&#038; &#038; &#038; 

National Popular Vote is not at all like current state winner-take-all laws.

National Popular Vote would give a voice to the minority party voters in each state.  Now their votes are counted only for the candidate they did not vote for. Now they don&#039;t matter to their candidate.   In 2012, 56,256,178 (44%) of the 128,954,498 voters had their vote diverted by the winner-take-all rule to a candidate they opposed (namely, their state’s first-place candidate). 
			
And now votes, beyond the one needed to get the most votes in the state, for winning in a state are wasted and don&#039;t matter to candidates.  Utah (5 electoral votes) alone generated a margin of 385,000 &quot;wasted&quot; votes for Bush in 2004. 8 small western states, with less than a third of California’s population, provided Bush with a bigger margin (1,283,076) than California provided Kerry (1,235,659).

&#038; &#038; &#038; &#038;

Nickle&#039;s system, of whole-number dividing electoral votes proportionally, would not accurately reflect the statewide popular vote and would not make every voter equal.  The state’s electoral vote would have to be rounded off to the nearest whole number.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course ‘National Popular Vote’ is really nice and democratic. It is &#8220;One man, one vote.”  </p>
<p>It ensures that every voter is equal, every voter will matter, in every state, in every presidential election, and the candidate with the most votes wins, as in virtually every other election in the country.</p>
<p>Under National Popular Vote, every voter, everywhere, would be politically relevant and equal in every presidential election. Every vote would be included in the state counts and national count. </p>
<p> With National Popular Vote, every popular vote, everywhere would be counted equally for, and directly assist, the candidate for whom it was cast. </p>
<p>Candidates would need to care about voters across the nation, not just undecided voters in a handful of swing states. The political reality would be that when every voter is equal, the campaign must be run in every part of the country.</p>
<p>When and where voters matter, then so do the issues they care about most.</p>
<p>&amp; &amp; &amp; </p>
<p>National Popular Vote is not at all like current state winner-take-all laws.</p>
<p>National Popular Vote would give a voice to the minority party voters in each state.  Now their votes are counted only for the candidate they did not vote for. Now they don&#8217;t matter to their candidate.   In 2012, 56,256,178 (44%) of the 128,954,498 voters had their vote diverted by the winner-take-all rule to a candidate they opposed (namely, their state’s first-place candidate). </p>
<p>And now votes, beyond the one needed to get the most votes in the state, for winning in a state are wasted and don&#8217;t matter to candidates.  Utah (5 electoral votes) alone generated a margin of 385,000 &#8220;wasted&#8221; votes for Bush in 2004. 8 small western states, with less than a third of California’s population, provided Bush with a bigger margin (1,283,076) than California provided Kerry (1,235,659).</p>
<p>&amp; &amp; &amp; &amp;</p>
<p>Nickle&#8217;s system, of whole-number dividing electoral votes proportionally, would not accurately reflect the statewide popular vote and would not make every voter equal.  The state’s electoral vote would have to be rounded off to the nearest whole number.</p>
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		By: toto		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/04/03/ca-gop-stays-neutral-on-new-electoral-college-initiative/#comment-76436</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[toto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2014 20:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RE: LaMalfa’s comments
In 1789, in the nation&#039;s first election, the people had no vote for President in most states, only men who owned a substantial amount of property could vote, and only three states used the state-by-state winner-take-all method to award electoral votes. 
The Founders were dead for decades before state winner-take-all laws became prevalent.

&#038;&#038;
Under National Popular Vote, candidates could no longer treat California as just an ATM.

In 2008, in California, only $28,288 (0.02%) was spent on post-convention ads, while $151,127,483 (17.76%) of all donations were raised here.  California had no post-convention campaign events.

In 2008, in Ohio, $16,845,415 (10.44%) was spent on post-convention ads, while only $15,984,435 (1.88%) of all donations were raised in Ohio.  Ohio (with only 20 electoral votes) was lavishly wooed with 62 of the total 300 post-convention campaign events in the whole country. 

If every voter mattered throughout the United States, as it would under a national popular vote, candidates would reallocate their time and the money they raise. 

&#038;&#038;		

The current state-by-state winner-take-all system of awarding electoral votes maximizes the incentive and opportunity for fraud, coercion, intimidation, confusion, and voter suppression. A very few people can change the national outcome by adding, changing, or suppressing a small number of votes in one closely divided battleground state. With the current system all of a state&#039;s electoral votes are awarded to the candidate who receives a bare plurality of the votes in each state. The sheer magnitude of the national popular vote number, compared to individual state vote totals, is much more robust against manipulation.
	
National Popular Vote would limit the benefits to be gained by fraud or voter suppression.  One suppressed vote would be one less vote. One fraudulent vote would only win one vote in the return. In the current electoral system, one fraudulent vote could mean 55 electoral votes, or just enough electoral votes to win the presidency without having the most popular votes in the country. 

The closest popular-vote election count over the last 130+ years of American history (in 1960), had a nationwide margin of more than 100,000 popular votes.  The closest electoral-vote election in American history (in 2000) was determined by 537 votes, all in one state, when there was a lead of 537,179 (1,000 times more) popular votes nationwide.
		
For a national popular vote election to be as easy to switch as 2000, it would have to be two hundred times closer than the 1960 election--and, in popular-vote terms, forty times closer than 2000 itself. 
	
Which system offers vote suppressors or fraudulent voters a better shot at success for a smaller effort?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: LaMalfa’s comments<br />
In 1789, in the nation&#8217;s first election, the people had no vote for President in most states, only men who owned a substantial amount of property could vote, and only three states used the state-by-state winner-take-all method to award electoral votes.<br />
The Founders were dead for decades before state winner-take-all laws became prevalent.</p>
<p>&amp;&amp;<br />
Under National Popular Vote, candidates could no longer treat California as just an ATM.</p>
<p>In 2008, in California, only $28,288 (0.02%) was spent on post-convention ads, while $151,127,483 (17.76%) of all donations were raised here.  California had no post-convention campaign events.</p>
<p>In 2008, in Ohio, $16,845,415 (10.44%) was spent on post-convention ads, while only $15,984,435 (1.88%) of all donations were raised in Ohio.  Ohio (with only 20 electoral votes) was lavishly wooed with 62 of the total 300 post-convention campaign events in the whole country. </p>
<p>If every voter mattered throughout the United States, as it would under a national popular vote, candidates would reallocate their time and the money they raise. </p>
<p>&amp;&amp;		</p>
<p>The current state-by-state winner-take-all system of awarding electoral votes maximizes the incentive and opportunity for fraud, coercion, intimidation, confusion, and voter suppression. A very few people can change the national outcome by adding, changing, or suppressing a small number of votes in one closely divided battleground state. With the current system all of a state&#8217;s electoral votes are awarded to the candidate who receives a bare plurality of the votes in each state. The sheer magnitude of the national popular vote number, compared to individual state vote totals, is much more robust against manipulation.</p>
<p>National Popular Vote would limit the benefits to be gained by fraud or voter suppression.  One suppressed vote would be one less vote. One fraudulent vote would only win one vote in the return. In the current electoral system, one fraudulent vote could mean 55 electoral votes, or just enough electoral votes to win the presidency without having the most popular votes in the country. </p>
<p>The closest popular-vote election count over the last 130+ years of American history (in 1960), had a nationwide margin of more than 100,000 popular votes.  The closest electoral-vote election in American history (in 2000) was determined by 537 votes, all in one state, when there was a lead of 537,179 (1,000 times more) popular votes nationwide.</p>
<p>For a national popular vote election to be as easy to switch as 2000, it would have to be two hundred times closer than the 1960 election&#8211;and, in popular-vote terms, forty times closer than 2000 itself. </p>
<p>Which system offers vote suppressors or fraudulent voters a better shot at success for a smaller effort?</p>
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		By: toto		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/04/03/ca-gop-stays-neutral-on-new-electoral-college-initiative/#comment-76430</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[toto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2014 18:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In California state-wide elections, candidates for governor or U.S. Senate don&#039;t campaign just in Los Angeles and San Francisco, and those places don&#039;t control the outcome (otherwise California wouldn&#039;t have recently had Republican governors Reagan, Dukemejian, Wilson, and Schwarzenegger).   A vote in rural Alpine county is just an important as a vote in Los Angeles.   If Los Angeles cannot control statewide elections in California, it can hardly control a nationwide election. 
		
In fact, Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Jose, and Oakland together cannot control a statewide election in California. 

Similarly, Republicans dominate Texas politics without carrying big cities such as Dallas and Houston. 

There are numerous other examples of Republicans who won races for governor and U.S. Senator in other states that have big cities (e.g., New York, Illinois, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Massachusetts) without ever carrying the big cities of their respective states. 

With National Popular Vote, every voter would be equal. Candidates would reallocate their time, the money they raise, and their ad buys to no longer ignore 80% of the states and voters.  

With National Popular Vote, big cities would not get all of candidates’ attention, much less control the outcome. 

16% of Americans live in rural areas.

The population of the top five cities (New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston and Philadelphia) is only 6% of the population of the United States and the population of the top 50 cities (going as far down as Arlington, TX) is only 15% of the population of the United States.  
	
Suburbs and exurbs often vote Republican.
	
Any candidate who ignored, for example, the 16% of Americans who live in rural areas in favor of a “big city” approach would not likely win the national popular vote.

If big cities controlled the outcome of elections, the governors and U.S. Senators would be Democratic in virtually every state with a significant city. 
	
A nationwide presidential campaign, with every voter equal, would be run the way presidential candidates campaign to win the electoral votes of closely divided battleground states, such as Ohio and Florida, under the state-by-state winner-take-all methods. The big cities in those battleground states do not receive all the attention, much less control the outcome. Cleveland and Miami do not receive all the attention or control the outcome in Ohio and Florida.  In the 4 states that accounted for over two-thirds of all general-election activity in the 2012 presidential election, rural areas, suburbs, exurbs, and cities all received attention—roughly in proportion to their population.
		
The itineraries of presidential candidates in battleground states (and their allocation of other campaign resources in battleground states) reflect the political reality that every gubernatorial or senatorial candidate knows. When and where every voter is equal, a campaign must be run everywhere.

With National Popular Vote, when every voter is equal, everywhere, it makes sense for presidential candidates to try and elevate their votes where they are and aren&#039;t so well liked. But, under the state-by-state winner-take-all laws, it makes no sense for a Democrat to try and do that in Vermont or Wyoming, or for a Republican to try it in Wyoming or Vermont.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In California state-wide elections, candidates for governor or U.S. Senate don&#8217;t campaign just in Los Angeles and San Francisco, and those places don&#8217;t control the outcome (otherwise California wouldn&#8217;t have recently had Republican governors Reagan, Dukemejian, Wilson, and Schwarzenegger).   A vote in rural Alpine county is just an important as a vote in Los Angeles.   If Los Angeles cannot control statewide elections in California, it can hardly control a nationwide election. </p>
<p>In fact, Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Jose, and Oakland together cannot control a statewide election in California. </p>
<p>Similarly, Republicans dominate Texas politics without carrying big cities such as Dallas and Houston. </p>
<p>There are numerous other examples of Republicans who won races for governor and U.S. Senator in other states that have big cities (e.g., New York, Illinois, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Massachusetts) without ever carrying the big cities of their respective states. </p>
<p>With National Popular Vote, every voter would be equal. Candidates would reallocate their time, the money they raise, and their ad buys to no longer ignore 80% of the states and voters.  </p>
<p>With National Popular Vote, big cities would not get all of candidates’ attention, much less control the outcome. </p>
<p>16% of Americans live in rural areas.</p>
<p>The population of the top five cities (New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston and Philadelphia) is only 6% of the population of the United States and the population of the top 50 cities (going as far down as Arlington, TX) is only 15% of the population of the United States.  </p>
<p>Suburbs and exurbs often vote Republican.</p>
<p>Any candidate who ignored, for example, the 16% of Americans who live in rural areas in favor of a “big city” approach would not likely win the national popular vote.</p>
<p>If big cities controlled the outcome of elections, the governors and U.S. Senators would be Democratic in virtually every state with a significant city. </p>
<p>A nationwide presidential campaign, with every voter equal, would be run the way presidential candidates campaign to win the electoral votes of closely divided battleground states, such as Ohio and Florida, under the state-by-state winner-take-all methods. The big cities in those battleground states do not receive all the attention, much less control the outcome. Cleveland and Miami do not receive all the attention or control the outcome in Ohio and Florida.  In the 4 states that accounted for over two-thirds of all general-election activity in the 2012 presidential election, rural areas, suburbs, exurbs, and cities all received attention—roughly in proportion to their population.</p>
<p>The itineraries of presidential candidates in battleground states (and their allocation of other campaign resources in battleground states) reflect the political reality that every gubernatorial or senatorial candidate knows. When and where every voter is equal, a campaign must be run everywhere.</p>
<p>With National Popular Vote, when every voter is equal, everywhere, it makes sense for presidential candidates to try and elevate their votes where they are and aren&#8217;t so well liked. But, under the state-by-state winner-take-all laws, it makes no sense for a Democrat to try and do that in Vermont or Wyoming, or for a Republican to try it in Wyoming or Vermont.</p>
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		By: toto		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2014 17:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[National Popular Vote is the way to make every person&#039;s vote equal and matter to their candidate because it guarantees that the candidate who gets the most votes in all 50 states and DC becomes President.

Nickle&#039;s proposed proportional method could result in third party candidates winning electoral votes that would deny either major party candidate the necessary majority vote of electors and throw the process into Congress to decide.

If the whole-number proportional approach, the only proportional option available to an individual state on its own, had been in use throughout the country in the nation’s closest recent presidential election (2000), it would not have awarded the most electoral votes to the candidate receiving the most popular votes nationwide.  Instead, the result would have been a tie of 269–269 in the electoral vote, even though Al Gore led by 537,179 popular votes across the nation.  The presidential election would have been thrown into Congress to decide and resulted in the election of the second-place candidate in terms of the national popular vote.  

A system in which electoral votes are divided proportionally by state would not accurately reflect the popular vote and would not make every voter equal.  	

For states seeking to exercise their responsibility under the U.S. Constitution to choose a method of allocating electoral votes that best serves their state’s interest and that of the national interest, Nickle&#039;s alternative falls far short of the National Popular Vote plan.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>National Popular Vote is the way to make every person&#8217;s vote equal and matter to their candidate because it guarantees that the candidate who gets the most votes in all 50 states and DC becomes President.</p>
<p>Nickle&#8217;s proposed proportional method could result in third party candidates winning electoral votes that would deny either major party candidate the necessary majority vote of electors and throw the process into Congress to decide.</p>
<p>If the whole-number proportional approach, the only proportional option available to an individual state on its own, had been in use throughout the country in the nation’s closest recent presidential election (2000), it would not have awarded the most electoral votes to the candidate receiving the most popular votes nationwide.  Instead, the result would have been a tie of 269–269 in the electoral vote, even though Al Gore led by 537,179 popular votes across the nation.  The presidential election would have been thrown into Congress to decide and resulted in the election of the second-place candidate in terms of the national popular vote.  </p>
<p>A system in which electoral votes are divided proportionally by state would not accurately reflect the popular vote and would not make every voter equal.  	</p>
<p>For states seeking to exercise their responsibility under the U.S. Constitution to choose a method of allocating electoral votes that best serves their state’s interest and that of the national interest, Nickle&#8217;s alternative falls far short of the National Popular Vote plan.</p>
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		By: toto		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2014 17:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In elections in which the winner is the candidate receiving the most votes throughout the entire jurisdiction served by that office, historical evidence shows that there is no massive proliferation of third-party candidates and candidates do not win with small percentages. For example, in 905 elections for governor in the last 60 years, the winning candidate received more than 50% of the vote in over 91% of the elections. The winning candidate received more than 45% of the vote in 98% of the elections. The winning candidate received more than 40% of the vote in 99% of the elections. No winning candidate received less than 35% of the popular vote.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In elections in which the winner is the candidate receiving the most votes throughout the entire jurisdiction served by that office, historical evidence shows that there is no massive proliferation of third-party candidates and candidates do not win with small percentages. For example, in 905 elections for governor in the last 60 years, the winning candidate received more than 50% of the vote in over 91% of the elections. The winning candidate received more than 45% of the vote in 98% of the elections. The winning candidate received more than 40% of the vote in 99% of the elections. No winning candidate received less than 35% of the popular vote.</p>
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		By: Deserttrek		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2014 21:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[again we see the imbeded elites telling the rest of us to sit down shut up and we don&#039;t understand.  traitors every one of them]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>again we see the imbeded elites telling the rest of us to sit down shut up and we don&#8217;t understand.  traitors every one of them</p>
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