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	Comments on: Indian lands bill considered Wednesday	</title>
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		By: cihuahuac		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/06/24/indian-lands-bill-considered-wednesday/#comment-117419</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2015 20:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/06/24/indian-lands-bill-considered-wednesday/#comment-86362&quot;&gt;Bill Gore&lt;/a&gt;.

Aho!

Geez, seems like some politicians want to make this about California vs Indigenous People.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/06/24/indian-lands-bill-considered-wednesday/#comment-86362">Bill Gore</a>.</p>
<p>Aho!</p>
<p>Geez, seems like some politicians want to make this about California vs Indigenous People.</p>
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		By: alan hatcher		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alan hatcher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2014 05:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[280 does not apply in the fed state relationship? In reporting etc... ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>280 does not apply in the fed state relationship? In reporting etc&#8230; ?</p>
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		By: Michael		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/06/24/indian-lands-bill-considered-wednesday/#comment-86378</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2014 17:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/06/24/indian-lands-bill-considered-wednesday/#comment-86362&quot;&gt;Bill Gore&lt;/a&gt;.

Bill, ahow!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/06/24/indian-lands-bill-considered-wednesday/#comment-86362">Bill Gore</a>.</p>
<p>Bill, ahow!</p>
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		By: Bill Gore		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2014 14:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Believe it or not, the tribal governments are completely sovereign entities, who are only required to communicate directly with or answer to the US Federal Government, exactly the same as if they were Lichtenstein or Austria. They inhabit lands that are held for them in trust by the US Federal Government, and are entitled to make all land use and management decisions within the tribal governmental framework, under the light supervision of the BIA. They do not have to communicate with local state or county government if they choose not to, everything can be routed through the BIA if they choose. Usually they do keep lines of informal communication open, but when the county adopts a hostile or grabby attitude (they usually do) the tribe can just clam up and let the Bureau do the talking.

Anyway, currently under NEPA contractors are required to inform all local tribes basically any time dirt is broken on land that MAY have cultural significance, especially if it is federal land. So these letters come in, mostly things like telephone poles, roads, fences, etc., that are of little significance, but the contractors have to cover themselves.

Gregory Canyon, however, is an example of everything that can go wrong when a developer teams up with a county government that is utterly hostile to Indian Country. As a landfill, the site couldn&#039;t be worse: a small narrow canyon perched above the San Luis Rey River. In the middle of this site is a group of large boulders which really are of ancient significance to tribal culture. The developers want to bury this site, which has been used for thousands of years, in GARBAGE. FOREVER. Unfortunately locals can&#039;t get past their hatred and jealosy of the Pala and Pechanga bands&#039; casino fortune, and San Diego county government, which has long kowtowed to developers, holds up Gregory Canyon as &#039;jobs creation&#039; which is utter bull. During the construction I can guarantee that most jobs will be filled by subcontractors who use illegal aliens (cheapest labor). After construction there will only be a handful of low wage &#039;jobs&#039;….

As for this CEQA enhancement, how can it be a &#039;jobs killer&#039;? As noted above, contractors like to use the rock bottom cheapest labor around, &#039;undocumented migrants&#039; whose low wages are subsidized with &#039;benefits&#039; like SNAP…..Does the California economy depend to such an extent on even more ticky tacky particle board sprawl? Califonia is essentially built out at this point, and most of it is really ugly, shoddy construction that replaces a natural landscape that spoke for itself with an immense aimless schizo human suburban landscape. Everythings already been destroyed. &#039;Developers&#039; should try and focus their energies on tearing down and rebuilding all the cheap ugle sprawl they&#039;ve spent the last 40 years chewing up the landscape with….]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Believe it or not, the tribal governments are completely sovereign entities, who are only required to communicate directly with or answer to the US Federal Government, exactly the same as if they were Lichtenstein or Austria. They inhabit lands that are held for them in trust by the US Federal Government, and are entitled to make all land use and management decisions within the tribal governmental framework, under the light supervision of the BIA. They do not have to communicate with local state or county government if they choose not to, everything can be routed through the BIA if they choose. Usually they do keep lines of informal communication open, but when the county adopts a hostile or grabby attitude (they usually do) the tribe can just clam up and let the Bureau do the talking.</p>
<p>Anyway, currently under NEPA contractors are required to inform all local tribes basically any time dirt is broken on land that MAY have cultural significance, especially if it is federal land. So these letters come in, mostly things like telephone poles, roads, fences, etc., that are of little significance, but the contractors have to cover themselves.</p>
<p>Gregory Canyon, however, is an example of everything that can go wrong when a developer teams up with a county government that is utterly hostile to Indian Country. As a landfill, the site couldn&#8217;t be worse: a small narrow canyon perched above the San Luis Rey River. In the middle of this site is a group of large boulders which really are of ancient significance to tribal culture. The developers want to bury this site, which has been used for thousands of years, in GARBAGE. FOREVER. Unfortunately locals can&#8217;t get past their hatred and jealosy of the Pala and Pechanga bands&#8217; casino fortune, and San Diego county government, which has long kowtowed to developers, holds up Gregory Canyon as &#8216;jobs creation&#8217; which is utter bull. During the construction I can guarantee that most jobs will be filled by subcontractors who use illegal aliens (cheapest labor). After construction there will only be a handful of low wage &#8216;jobs&#8217;….</p>
<p>As for this CEQA enhancement, how can it be a &#8216;jobs killer&#8217;? As noted above, contractors like to use the rock bottom cheapest labor around, &#8216;undocumented migrants&#8217; whose low wages are subsidized with &#8216;benefits&#8217; like SNAP…..Does the California economy depend to such an extent on even more ticky tacky particle board sprawl? Califonia is essentially built out at this point, and most of it is really ugly, shoddy construction that replaces a natural landscape that spoke for itself with an immense aimless schizo human suburban landscape. Everythings already been destroyed. &#8216;Developers&#8217; should try and focus their energies on tearing down and rebuilding all the cheap ugle sprawl they&#8217;ve spent the last 40 years chewing up the landscape with….</p>
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