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		By: Ricky65		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ricky65]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2014 15:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/06/30/water-bond-drowns-in-legislature/#comment-86894&quot;&gt;Wayne Lusvardi&lt;/a&gt;.

Wayne: 
This state is so insane that I predict that if the choice comes down to fish or granny, the powers that be will make the obvious choice from their perspective. 
One should waste no time preparing for grandma&#039;s funeral.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/06/30/water-bond-drowns-in-legislature/#comment-86894">Wayne Lusvardi</a>.</p>
<p>Wayne:<br />
This state is so insane that I predict that if the choice comes down to fish or granny, the powers that be will make the obvious choice from their perspective.<br />
One should waste no time preparing for grandma&#8217;s funeral.</p>
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		By: Ricky65		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/06/30/water-bond-drowns-in-legislature/#comment-86910</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2014 15:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/06/30/water-bond-drowns-in-legislature/#comment-86864&quot;&gt;Wayne Lusvardi&lt;/a&gt;.

A &quot;green&quot; salad for sure. But could I get a glass of water?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/06/30/water-bond-drowns-in-legislature/#comment-86864">Wayne Lusvardi</a>.</p>
<p>A &#8220;green&#8221; salad for sure. But could I get a glass of water?</p>
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		By: Wayne Lusvardi		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/06/30/water-bond-drowns-in-legislature/#comment-86894</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wayne Lusvardi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2014 08:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/06/30/water-bond-drowns-in-legislature/#comment-86861&quot;&gt;Julio Chavez&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for the comment 

It may come down to an ethical dilemma this summer as communicated in a letter from the Public Utilities Commission, Grid Operator and the Energy Commission.  California may have a choice of curtailing water supplies for fish and for carryover water for 2015 or for spilling enough water so that natural gas power plants have enough water to run their steam generators so that your grandmother on a respirator or on a dialysis machine has enough power to survive.  The three energy regulating agencies in California are warning there would not be enough water for northern California steam power plants if water is curtailed for fish or for conserving for carry over into 2015. 

So it may literally come down to a choice between a fish and our grandmothers this year.  Hopefully, ideologically driven officials won&#039;t make that decision.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/06/30/water-bond-drowns-in-legislature/#comment-86861">Julio Chavez</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment </p>
<p>It may come down to an ethical dilemma this summer as communicated in a letter from the Public Utilities Commission, Grid Operator and the Energy Commission.  California may have a choice of curtailing water supplies for fish and for carryover water for 2015 or for spilling enough water so that natural gas power plants have enough water to run their steam generators so that your grandmother on a respirator or on a dialysis machine has enough power to survive.  The three energy regulating agencies in California are warning there would not be enough water for northern California steam power plants if water is curtailed for fish or for conserving for carry over into 2015. </p>
<p>So it may literally come down to a choice between a fish and our grandmothers this year.  Hopefully, ideologically driven officials won&#8217;t make that decision.</p>
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		By: Wayne Lusvardi		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/06/30/water-bond-drowns-in-legislature/#comment-86865</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wayne Lusvardi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2014 19:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/06/30/water-bond-drowns-in-legislature/#comment-86856&quot;&gt;Tom in SoCal&lt;/a&gt;.

There were funds dedicated in the failed water bond for water storage but that storage was restricted only to &quot;projects the improved the Delta ecosystem&quot; and &quot;contributed to the restoration of aquatic ecosystems and native fish and wildlife.&quot;  In other words, only &quot;green dams&quot; could have been built. 

This is the problem of one party government in California. Everybody outside of that Party is not welcome to the spending &quot;party&quot; and artificial jobs programs proliferate while legitimate water infrastructure projects are never funded. California spent nearly $20 billion on 5 water bonds since 2000 that squandered all that funding in the same way without a drop of water storage created.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/06/30/water-bond-drowns-in-legislature/#comment-86856">Tom in SoCal</a>.</p>
<p>There were funds dedicated in the failed water bond for water storage but that storage was restricted only to &#8220;projects the improved the Delta ecosystem&#8221; and &#8220;contributed to the restoration of aquatic ecosystems and native fish and wildlife.&#8221;  In other words, only &#8220;green dams&#8221; could have been built. </p>
<p>This is the problem of one party government in California. Everybody outside of that Party is not welcome to the spending &#8220;party&#8221; and artificial jobs programs proliferate while legitimate water infrastructure projects are never funded. California spent nearly $20 billion on 5 water bonds since 2000 that squandered all that funding in the same way without a drop of water storage created.</p>
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		By: Wayne Lusvardi		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/06/30/water-bond-drowns-in-legislature/#comment-86864</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wayne Lusvardi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2014 19:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I repeat: 

&quot;$460 million for the Wildlife Conservation Board, $100 million for the Wildlife 
Conservation Board for wildlife refuges and habitat areas, $100 million for restoration of the Salton Sea, $50 million for the Tahoe Regional Planning Compact, $100 million for the San Joaquin River Settlement Act, $1.175 billion for land conservancies to buy open space in various areas, $50 million for the Ocean Protection Council, $15 million for park land acquisition in Baldwin Hills area of Los Angeles, $65 million for buying land in the Santa Monica Mountains, $165 million for the State Coastal Conservancy, $15 million for coastal wetlands restoration, and $200 million for public agencies and nonprofit agencies. And $150 million vaguely for projects proximate to “major metropolitan cities for a river that has an adopted revitalization plan” (the Los Angeles River?).&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I repeat: </p>
<p>&#8220;$460 million for the Wildlife Conservation Board, $100 million for the Wildlife<br />
Conservation Board for wildlife refuges and habitat areas, $100 million for restoration of the Salton Sea, $50 million for the Tahoe Regional Planning Compact, $100 million for the San Joaquin River Settlement Act, $1.175 billion for land conservancies to buy open space in various areas, $50 million for the Ocean Protection Council, $15 million for park land acquisition in Baldwin Hills area of Los Angeles, $65 million for buying land in the Santa Monica Mountains, $165 million for the State Coastal Conservancy, $15 million for coastal wetlands restoration, and $200 million for public agencies and nonprofit agencies. And $150 million vaguely for projects proximate to “major metropolitan cities for a river that has an adopted revitalization plan” (the Los Angeles River?).&#8221;</p>
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		By: Julio Chavez		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/06/30/water-bond-drowns-in-legislature/#comment-86861</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julio Chavez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2014 18:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The concept of stealing water from the already depleted fisheries of the northern part of the state and sending it south through peripheral tunnels or canals was voted down years ago. Tell Jerry Brown&#039;s buddies to desalinize seawater to fill their pools and leave the northern waters alone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The concept of stealing water from the already depleted fisheries of the northern part of the state and sending it south through peripheral tunnels or canals was voted down years ago. Tell Jerry Brown&#8217;s buddies to desalinize seawater to fill their pools and leave the northern waters alone.</p>
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		By: Tom in SoCal		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/06/30/water-bond-drowns-in-legislature/#comment-86856</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2014 16:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You have said it exactly.  More dams are needed!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have said it exactly.  More dams are needed!</p>
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		By: Ricky65		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/06/30/water-bond-drowns-in-legislature/#comment-86855</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ricky65]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2014 16:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No wonder this water dog died. Millions for tribute but not a cent to increase water supplies. 
Instead the proposed bond props up the Big Green bureaucracy by providing &#039;consultants&#039; to study why we have no water and millions more on  &quot;Delta ecosystem&quot; studies now ongoing for decades. And then throw in a few weed pulling jobs for out of work greenheads with worthless degrees in environmental science. Whatever it takes in order to satisfy the green masters that rule the Dema-Rat party.
I still hold a fading hope the people in this state will wake up the the real problem of water scarcity in Cali. We need to build more reservoirs instead of squabbling over the last few drops and just playing power games by screwing some other group out of their allotment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No wonder this water dog died. Millions for tribute but not a cent to increase water supplies.<br />
Instead the proposed bond props up the Big Green bureaucracy by providing &#8216;consultants&#8217; to study why we have no water and millions more on  &#8220;Delta ecosystem&#8221; studies now ongoing for decades. And then throw in a few weed pulling jobs for out of work greenheads with worthless degrees in environmental science. Whatever it takes in order to satisfy the green masters that rule the Dema-Rat party.<br />
I still hold a fading hope the people in this state will wake up the the real problem of water scarcity in Cali. We need to build more reservoirs instead of squabbling over the last few drops and just playing power games by screwing some other group out of their allotment.</p>
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