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		By: Ulysses Uhaul		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/07/20/speed-promises-for-bullet-train-ca-says-never-mind/#comment-88917</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ulysses Uhaul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2014 05:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There are good ole boy Republicans at this feed trough too.

The train good....the ugliness and corruption associated...not good.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are good ole boy Republicans at this feed trough too.</p>
<p>The train good&#8230;.the ugliness and corruption associated&#8230;not good.</p>
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		By: Sean		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/07/20/speed-promises-for-bullet-train-ca-says-never-mind/#comment-88786</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2014 02:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/07/20/speed-promises-for-bullet-train-ca-says-never-mind/#comment-88748&quot;&gt;Sean&lt;/a&gt;.

By the way, a round trip direct flight can be booked on United for $154, 90 minute travel time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/07/20/speed-promises-for-bullet-train-ca-says-never-mind/#comment-88748">Sean</a>.</p>
<p>By the way, a round trip direct flight can be booked on United for $154, 90 minute travel time.</p>
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		By: maximilian		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/07/20/speed-promises-for-bullet-train-ca-says-never-mind/#comment-88757</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[maximilian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2014 20:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/07/20/speed-promises-for-bullet-train-ca-says-never-mind/#comment-88623&quot;&gt;Ken&lt;/a&gt;.

Ken, thanks for placing our government operations in proper perspective. But, for a moment, it is so critical to keep our state officials on the &quot;truth train&quot; whenever possible. Unfortunately, in a state that sits in a pool of unfunded pension liability (est $520B), with 25% of the population defined as living in abject poverty, and wide-open doors for illegal immigrants with no way to process the overflow plus a sitting governor who has his eyes on a bigger prize back D.C. (Hillary is watching), you simply must hang in there. Continue to point out California&#039;s messiness...I know I will.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/07/20/speed-promises-for-bullet-train-ca-says-never-mind/#comment-88623">Ken</a>.</p>
<p>Ken, thanks for placing our government operations in proper perspective. But, for a moment, it is so critical to keep our state officials on the &#8220;truth train&#8221; whenever possible. Unfortunately, in a state that sits in a pool of unfunded pension liability (est $520B), with 25% of the population defined as living in abject poverty, and wide-open doors for illegal immigrants with no way to process the overflow plus a sitting governor who has his eyes on a bigger prize back D.C. (Hillary is watching), you simply must hang in there. Continue to point out California&#8217;s messiness&#8230;I know I will.</p>
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		By: Dave Wiltsee		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/07/20/speed-promises-for-bullet-train-ca-says-never-mind/#comment-88756</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Wiltsee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2014 20:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This scam must go back to the ballot box.  Voters deserve a mulligan, a chance to reconsider the previous vote based on the shifting sands of bogus commitments in the past six years.  Please, someone, give us a new  proposition to euthanize this monster.  
It goes without saying that the Authority will repeatedly encounter effective legal opposition throughout the Bay Area, and likely in the Central Valley and greater LA.  It&#039;ll never get built, but the unfinished white elephant of a project will continue to line the pockets of special interests as r-o-w is acquired, infrastructure laid, and  rolling stock purchased. As long as the spending tap is opened wide, those profiting won&#039;t really care whether the system is ever completed or not -- just so they get their generous piece of the pie.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This scam must go back to the ballot box.  Voters deserve a mulligan, a chance to reconsider the previous vote based on the shifting sands of bogus commitments in the past six years.  Please, someone, give us a new  proposition to euthanize this monster.<br />
It goes without saying that the Authority will repeatedly encounter effective legal opposition throughout the Bay Area, and likely in the Central Valley and greater LA.  It&#8217;ll never get built, but the unfinished white elephant of a project will continue to line the pockets of special interests as r-o-w is acquired, infrastructure laid, and  rolling stock purchased. As long as the spending tap is opened wide, those profiting won&#8217;t really care whether the system is ever completed or not &#8212; just so they get their generous piece of the pie.</p>
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		By: Richard Rider		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Rider]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2014 19:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/07/20/speed-promises-for-bullet-train-ca-says-never-mind/#comment-88748&quot;&gt;Sean&lt;/a&gt;.

Good comment, Sean.  But it&#039;s a challenge to decide which HSR lie was the biggest whopper. Suffice it to say that just about EVERY quantitative assertion supporting CA HSR was a whopper.  

The core backers stand to make BILLIONS from the HSR boondoggle, so they are quite willing to say ANYTHING to make it happen -- no downside for them!  HSR worshipers will repeat any such canard as truth -- either from ignorance or because &quot;the end justifies the means.&quot;

For YEARS I offered a $100K wager on several of these lies -- NO ONE ever came forward to take my sucker bets.  They knew better.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/07/20/speed-promises-for-bullet-train-ca-says-never-mind/#comment-88748">Sean</a>.</p>
<p>Good comment, Sean.  But it&#8217;s a challenge to decide which HSR lie was the biggest whopper. Suffice it to say that just about EVERY quantitative assertion supporting CA HSR was a whopper.  </p>
<p>The core backers stand to make BILLIONS from the HSR boondoggle, so they are quite willing to say ANYTHING to make it happen &#8212; no downside for them!  HSR worshipers will repeat any such canard as truth &#8212; either from ignorance or because &#8220;the end justifies the means.&#8221;</p>
<p>For YEARS I offered a $100K wager on several of these lies &#8212; NO ONE ever came forward to take my sucker bets.  They knew better.</p>
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		By: Sean		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2014 18:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As an east coaster where rail service use is quite heavy on the northeast corridor from Washington DC to Boston, it&#039;s instructive to look at prices.  On a slow train, the cost of travel from Washington to Boston, a distance of ~440 miles is $76 for a trip that takes more than 7 3/4 hours.  The price on the Acela &quot;high speed train&quot; is over $170 dollars one way for a trip that takes 6 1/2 hours.  These are the cheapest fares on each of these trains, on a route that is well known and well traveled and one in which Amtrak still loses money.  Full fare tickets on these trains are nearly twice this amount by the way. So if you think the two hours and 40 minutes is a whopper, its nothing compared to the $50 one way fare whopper.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an east coaster where rail service use is quite heavy on the northeast corridor from Washington DC to Boston, it&#8217;s instructive to look at prices.  On a slow train, the cost of travel from Washington to Boston, a distance of ~440 miles is $76 for a trip that takes more than 7 3/4 hours.  The price on the Acela &#8220;high speed train&#8221; is over $170 dollars one way for a trip that takes 6 1/2 hours.  These are the cheapest fares on each of these trains, on a route that is well known and well traveled and one in which Amtrak still loses money.  Full fare tickets on these trains are nearly twice this amount by the way. So if you think the two hours and 40 minutes is a whopper, its nothing compared to the $50 one way fare whopper.</p>
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		By: Robert S. Allen		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/07/20/speed-promises-for-bullet-train-ca-says-never-mind/#comment-88644</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert S. Allen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2014 21:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[HSR insists on using Caltrain tracks from San Jose to the mis-named Transbay Transit Center being built in downtown San Francisco, a long block away from the nearest BART/Muni station at Embarcadero.---
  
From a transfer station in Oakland where BART goes over the UP/Amtrak line, Embarcadero would be a six-minute ride, with a train every four minutes or oftener.  It&#039;s much more transit-oriented than the TBC so favored by the moneyed political elite.---

HSR needs a grade-separated, fenced, secure track.  Upgrading the UP/Amtrak 
route from San Jose via Santa Clara and Mulford to Oakland would cost much less than what is planned at Caltrain.---

Initial HSR to the Bay Area should end at San Jose, with nearly seamless transfers there to Caltrain, Capitol Corridor, Amtrak, VTA rail, and BART.  The next phase should be to Oakland (as above) and on to Sacramento.  Much better, safer, more reliable, and less costly than what is planned.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HSR insists on using Caltrain tracks from San Jose to the mis-named Transbay Transit Center being built in downtown San Francisco, a long block away from the nearest BART/Muni station at Embarcadero.&#8212;</p>
<p>From a transfer station in Oakland where BART goes over the UP/Amtrak line, Embarcadero would be a six-minute ride, with a train every four minutes or oftener.  It&#8217;s much more transit-oriented than the TBC so favored by the moneyed political elite.&#8212;</p>
<p>HSR needs a grade-separated, fenced, secure track.  Upgrading the UP/Amtrak<br />
route from San Jose via Santa Clara and Mulford to Oakland would cost much less than what is planned at Caltrain.&#8212;</p>
<p>Initial HSR to the Bay Area should end at San Jose, with nearly seamless transfers there to Caltrain, Capitol Corridor, Amtrak, VTA rail, and BART.  The next phase should be to Oakland (as above) and on to Sacramento.  Much better, safer, more reliable, and less costly than what is planned.</p>
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		By: Richard Rider		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Rider]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2014 20:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Many other lies in 1A campaign.  One was that it would include service south of LA.  It will not -- even proponents now admit that.  

In the Prop 1A campaign they claimed that the PROFITS (profits????!!!!) from the LA-SF HSR would pay for OC, San Diego, etc.  

But at least we San Diegans get to PAY for HSR (until it implodes, which it will).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many other lies in 1A campaign.  One was that it would include service south of LA.  It will not &#8212; even proponents now admit that.  </p>
<p>In the Prop 1A campaign they claimed that the PROFITS (profits????!!!!) from the LA-SF HSR would pay for OC, San Diego, etc.  </p>
<p>But at least we San Diegans get to PAY for HSR (until it implodes, which it will).</p>
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		By: Ulysses Uhaul		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/07/20/speed-promises-for-bullet-train-ca-says-never-mind/#comment-88629</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ulysses Uhaul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2014 18:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wake up doomers..you want cheap services. You want low wages as a factor of production....you&#039;re into control and domination of the masses...

So....cheap  transportation is mandatory. The minorities will keep coming without autos.....trains are better than donkeys!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wake up doomers..you want cheap services. You want low wages as a factor of production&#8230;.you&#8217;re into control and domination of the masses&#8230;</p>
<p>So&#8230;.cheap  transportation is mandatory. The minorities will keep coming without autos&#8230;..trains are better than donkeys!</p>
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		By: Ken		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2014 18:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I respect the thought behind the article, but the train system, even though it could NEVER be what our slimy quasi-bureaucrats maintained it might be (per design), is still needed. And subsidies are going to be required. That&#039;s the way it is. However, this is almost less about a train than the way things are done in the USA anymore. We have become a corrupted state from sea to shining sea, and there is no Joan of Arc in sight. Truth is gone from the land. Honesty? R U kidding? In past days the Attorney General of the United States of America, already showing glaring lawless and even criminal characteristics, says the IRS scandal, a horrid reality that erodes all we hope to stand for and always have, never happened! The president has shown him self to be a serial liar. Maybe it&#039;s congenital? In such a putrid environment where there is no real leadership you are so deeply concerned about a train that might not be able to get between A and B in X amount of time? As stated, I respect the thought process you show, but consider the abject, horrid circumstances in the country overall, and train specifications about which we have been lied to (I beleive you) pale. We could lose the country in the next five years if we don&#039;t get a grip in November. That&#039;s where my head is at. And the train is needed, no matter how much it is disliked in some quarters or what its SF to LA average speed might be.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I respect the thought behind the article, but the train system, even though it could NEVER be what our slimy quasi-bureaucrats maintained it might be (per design), is still needed. And subsidies are going to be required. That&#8217;s the way it is. However, this is almost less about a train than the way things are done in the USA anymore. We have become a corrupted state from sea to shining sea, and there is no Joan of Arc in sight. Truth is gone from the land. Honesty? R U kidding? In past days the Attorney General of the United States of America, already showing glaring lawless and even criminal characteristics, says the IRS scandal, a horrid reality that erodes all we hope to stand for and always have, never happened! The president has shown him self to be a serial liar. Maybe it&#8217;s congenital? In such a putrid environment where there is no real leadership you are so deeply concerned about a train that might not be able to get between A and B in X amount of time? As stated, I respect the thought process you show, but consider the abject, horrid circumstances in the country overall, and train specifications about which we have been lied to (I beleive you) pale. We could lose the country in the next five years if we don&#8217;t get a grip in November. That&#8217;s where my head is at. And the train is needed, no matter how much it is disliked in some quarters or what its SF to LA average speed might be.</p>
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