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	Comments on: Historic Vergara ruling finalized; state has weighty decision on appeal	</title>
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		By: Queeg		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/08/28/historic-vergara-ruling-finalized-state-has-weighty-decision-on-appeal/#comment-93012</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Queeg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2014 04:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The day free men started to pay money to have a job is the day freedom started to wane!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The day free men started to pay money to have a job is the day freedom started to wane!</p>
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		By: Ted Steele, Editor		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/08/28/historic-vergara-ruling-finalized-state-has-weighty-decision-on-appeal/#comment-92901</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Steele, Editor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2014 04:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/08/28/historic-vergara-ruling-finalized-state-has-weighty-decision-on-appeal/#comment-92874&quot;&gt;Chris Reed&lt;/a&gt;.

Chris-

Words have meaning-- you or your ed. use them here incorrectly to support your VERY always obvious teabaggerous slants. That&#039;s all-- just calling attention to it. 

Words have meaning and ANYone with any legal knowledge would agree that your headline is VERY misleading--intentionally or with a nice dash of ignorance delivered with confidence.

Your defense can&#039;t be, &quot;hey it&#039;s just a headline, we got it right in the article&quot;.......can it? Or are you still defending the &quot;truth&quot; of the headline?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/08/28/historic-vergara-ruling-finalized-state-has-weighty-decision-on-appeal/#comment-92874">Chris Reed</a>.</p>
<p>Chris-</p>
<p>Words have meaning&#8211; you or your ed. use them here incorrectly to support your VERY always obvious teabaggerous slants. That&#8217;s all&#8211; just calling attention to it. </p>
<p>Words have meaning and ANYone with any legal knowledge would agree that your headline is VERY misleading&#8211;intentionally or with a nice dash of ignorance delivered with confidence.</p>
<p>Your defense can&#8217;t be, &#8220;hey it&#8217;s just a headline, we got it right in the article&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;.can it? Or are you still defending the &#8220;truth&#8221; of the headline?</p>
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		By: Chris Reed		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/08/28/historic-vergara-ruling-finalized-state-has-weighty-decision-on-appeal/#comment-92874</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Reed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2014 02:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/08/28/historic-vergara-ruling-finalized-state-has-weighty-decision-on-appeal/#comment-92847&quot;&gt;Ted Steele, Editor&lt;/a&gt;.

Ted, I never once said it was a final ruling that can&#039;t be revoked. It is the final ruling of the trial court. In fact, the post specifically talks about Jerry Brown&#039;s decision on whether or not to appeal. The headline mentions a possible state appeal!

If you&#039;re going to troll, please read what you&#039;re trolling over. 

But you win. I officially give up. I won&#039;t react to you any more. Enjoy your daily workout.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/08/28/historic-vergara-ruling-finalized-state-has-weighty-decision-on-appeal/#comment-92847">Ted Steele, Editor</a>.</p>
<p>Ted, I never once said it was a final ruling that can&#8217;t be revoked. It is the final ruling of the trial court. In fact, the post specifically talks about Jerry Brown&#8217;s decision on whether or not to appeal. The headline mentions a possible state appeal!</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re going to troll, please read what you&#8217;re trolling over. </p>
<p>But you win. I officially give up. I won&#8217;t react to you any more. Enjoy your daily workout.</p>
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		By: Ted Steele, Editor		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/08/28/historic-vergara-ruling-finalized-state-has-weighty-decision-on-appeal/#comment-92847</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Steele, Editor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2014 00:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/08/28/historic-vergara-ruling-finalized-state-has-weighty-decision-on-appeal/#comment-92814&quot;&gt;Chris Reed&lt;/a&gt;.

LOL Chris-- you DO like to think about Onan----well......alot! 

Hmmmm.......

&quot;Duh&quot;, is your best shot?

Oh my.

I, of course know well that you NEVER admit when you&#039;re wrong, so no worries there.
&quot;the judge...issued his final review...&quot;

It&#039;s not a final judgement, he merely &quot;ruled&quot;.....he is a lower court.....of course it&#039;s not final and it is appealable.....but you kids are frothing to smear your tea baggy pov across most of the so called stories out here so whoever wrote the headline spurt &quot;finalized&quot; up there! LMAO

This &quot;journalistic venture&quot;, at times, looks like a jr. high paper.

Carry on little buddy!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/08/28/historic-vergara-ruling-finalized-state-has-weighty-decision-on-appeal/#comment-92814">Chris Reed</a>.</p>
<p>LOL Chris&#8211; you DO like to think about Onan&#8212;-well&#8230;&#8230;alot! </p>
<p>Hmmmm&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Duh&#8221;, is your best shot?</p>
<p>Oh my.</p>
<p>I, of course know well that you NEVER admit when you&#8217;re wrong, so no worries there.<br />
&#8220;the judge&#8230;issued his final review&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a final judgement, he merely &#8220;ruled&#8221;&#8230;..he is a lower court&#8230;..of course it&#8217;s not final and it is appealable&#8230;..but you kids are frothing to smear your tea baggy pov across most of the so called stories out here so whoever wrote the headline spurt &#8220;finalized&#8221; up there! LMAO</p>
<p>This &#8220;journalistic venture&#8221;, at times, looks like a jr. high paper.</p>
<p>Carry on little buddy!</p>
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		By: S Moderation Douglas		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/08/28/historic-vergara-ruling-finalized-state-has-weighty-decision-on-appeal/#comment-92844</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[S Moderation Douglas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2014 23:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If it makes you feel good.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it makes you feel good.</p>
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		By: Chris Reed		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/08/28/historic-vergara-ruling-finalized-state-has-weighty-decision-on-appeal/#comment-92841</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Reed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2014 23:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Still wrong, SMD.

&quot;The funding of annual normal pension costs should be shared equally by employees and employers.&quot;

This is from Brown’s pension reform blueprint in 2011:

1. Equal Sharing of Pension Costs: All Employees and Employers
While many public employees make some contribution to their retirement – state employees contribute at least 8 percent of their salaries – some make none. Their employers pay the full amount of the annual cost of their pension benefits. The funding of annual normal pension costs should be shared equally by employees and employers.

My plan will require that all new and current employees transition to a contribution level of at least 50 percent of the annual cost of their pension benefits. Given the different levels of employee contributions, the move to a contribution level of at least 50 percent will be phased in at a pace that takes into account current contribution levels, current contracts and the collective bargaining process.

Regardless of pacing, this change delivers real near-term savings to public employers, who will see their share of annual employee pension costs decline.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still wrong, SMD.</p>
<p>&#8220;The funding of annual normal pension costs should be shared equally by employees and employers.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is from Brown’s pension reform blueprint in 2011:</p>
<p>1. Equal Sharing of Pension Costs: All Employees and Employers<br />
While many public employees make some contribution to their retirement – state employees contribute at least 8 percent of their salaries – some make none. Their employers pay the full amount of the annual cost of their pension benefits. The funding of annual normal pension costs should be shared equally by employees and employers.</p>
<p>My plan will require that all new and current employees transition to a contribution level of at least 50 percent of the annual cost of their pension benefits. Given the different levels of employee contributions, the move to a contribution level of at least 50 percent will be phased in at a pace that takes into account current contribution levels, current contracts and the collective bargaining process.</p>
<p>Regardless of pacing, this change delivers real near-term savings to public employers, who will see their share of annual employee pension costs decline.</p>
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		By: S Moderation Douglas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[S Moderation Douglas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2014 20:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a little thing some of us have with using words that are misleading, like misinterpreting the meaning of the &quot;normal cost&quot; of pensions. We&#039;re trying to help you out. 

Also trying to figure out how political disagreements are related to masturbation. 

&quot;If it makes you feel good&quot;?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a little thing some of us have with using words that are misleading, like misinterpreting the meaning of the &#8220;normal cost&#8221; of pensions. We&#8217;re trying to help you out. </p>
<p>Also trying to figure out how political disagreements are related to masturbation. </p>
<p>&#8220;If it makes you feel good&#8221;?</p>
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		By: Chris Reed		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/08/28/historic-vergara-ruling-finalized-state-has-weighty-decision-on-appeal/#comment-92814</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Reed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2014 17:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ted, the judge finalized his ruling. That doesn&#039;t mean it can&#039;t be appealed. Duh.

And you wonder why I liken many of your posts to onanism. 

This doesn&#039;t add anything to the debate over public schools, tenure, etc.

But it makes you feel good. Congrats.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ted, the judge finalized his ruling. That doesn&#8217;t mean it can&#8217;t be appealed. Duh.</p>
<p>And you wonder why I liken many of your posts to onanism. </p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t add anything to the debate over public schools, tenure, etc.</p>
<p>But it makes you feel good. Congrats.</p>
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		By: Ted Steele, Editor		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/08/28/historic-vergara-ruling-finalized-state-has-weighty-decision-on-appeal/#comment-92803</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Steele, Editor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2014 14:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Final judgment means “a judgment that is final and not appealable, and includes an order of settlement.” 28 USCS § 2412; See Griner v. Comm&#039;r of Soc. Sec., 2009 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 95104 (M.D. Fla. Sept. 28, 2009)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Final judgment means “a judgment that is final and not appealable, and includes an order of settlement.” 28 USCS § 2412; See Griner v. Comm&#8217;r of Soc. Sec., 2009 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 95104 (M.D. Fla. Sept. 28, 2009)</p>
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		By: Ted Steele, Editor		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/08/28/historic-vergara-ruling-finalized-state-has-weighty-decision-on-appeal/#comment-92802</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Steele, Editor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2014 14:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Chris-

You have misused the word &quot;finalized&quot; in your story. 

This purports to be a legal story and words in this context have meaning. It is merely his decision and of course fully appealable-- not final.

I&#039;ll let ya know when it&#039;s final little buddy!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris-</p>
<p>You have misused the word &#8220;finalized&#8221; in your story. </p>
<p>This purports to be a legal story and words in this context have meaning. It is merely his decision and of course fully appealable&#8211; not final.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll let ya know when it&#8217;s final little buddy!</p>
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