Snowden is a U.S. citizen too, and what he did was HEROIC!

Fixed it for ya, seesaw! 😉

Naturally you were unable to challenge the content of my previous post with reasoned and rational counterarguments. I slapped your argument down hard and you had no comeback. You know what Clapper and NSA did was HIGHLY illegal but instead you give them a pass and condemn a whistleblower calling him a ‘criminal’. Shameful. It’s obvious where your allegiances lie. 🙁

You’re full of it, seesaw. After being exposed as a liar by Ed Snowden, Director of Intel James Clapper wrote a letter to Sen. Ron Wyden and basically admitted that Snowden was correct – that NSA was not only collecting meta data on phone records, emails, bank accounts, credit cards, etc. on INNOCENT US citizens – but also CONTENT – meaning email text, telephone conversation recordings, text messages, etc… By doing so, Clapper essentially admitted to committing perjury during his previous congressional testimony given under sworn oath. Was he prosecuted? NOPE! Was he fired? NOPE! Any idea what would happen if a common citizen is accused of lying during congressional testimony? Go ask Roger Clemens. lol.

If the gov has good reason to believe that someone living in the US is a terrorist and we have to collect his meta data or listen to his phone calls -GO GET A DAMN WARRANT AND ABIDE BY THE US CONSTITUTION AND RULE OF LAW!!!!

We live in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, seesaw. NOT NORTH KOREA!!!!

I think you nailed it, Bill. When the PRISM program was exposed it damaged the reputations of most of these various IT companies. They were working hand in hand with NSA to allow the gov access to our papers and records that are supposed to be secure and protected under the Fourth Amendment of the US Constitution. Regardless of what seesaw says, those records are ONLY to be released to the gov with the consent of the person who the phone records represent, or with a signed warrant from a judge. Now that these IT companies got caught with their pants down around their ankles via PRISM – they are claiming “bad, bad government”. BS. I don’t buy it at all. IMO it’s a ruse and they’ll dime us out at the first opportunity. I have the opinion that there is an evil alliance between big business and gov. Anyone who witnessed the 2008 meltdown and it’s aftermath – and believes differently is a fool.

Since we contribute to your pension benefits you have no right to privacy. We have just as much right to know how much you get as you do. You should have thought about that before you chose to work for the government and take TAXPAYER money.

The government doesn’t pay my phone bill. Therefore, if the gov wants to scour my phone records – get a warrant.

Obviously you didn’t listen to what Snowden told us. They were eavesdropping on citizens who has no connection to terrorism, just because they could.

Btw, MY phone records are MY phone records. Per the 4th Amendment, NO ONE in government should have a right to examine MY phone records without MY consent or without a warrant signed by a judge. We live in the United States of America with a Constitution that guarantees certain inalienable rights. Many men died to protect those rights. Let’s show some respect for their sacrifices, okay?

They have data lists of your phone records, but I don’t believe for a NYC minute that they plug in on your actual conversation. If you call in the U.S. all the time there would be no red flags, probably. If they saw your number calling Syria one day when you had never dialed that number before, they might check it out.