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		By: LetitCollapse		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/10/03/brown-struggles-to-hit-education-stride/#comment-97629</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2014 19:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The mainstream news reported that 1 out of every 2 K-12 students in California (that&#039;s 50% for those of you who are math challenged) speak a language other than english at home! lol.

Anybody who doesn&#039;t have a problem with that should renounce his or her citizenship.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mainstream news reported that 1 out of every 2 K-12 students in California (that&#8217;s 50% for those of you who are math challenged) speak a language other than english at home! lol.</p>
<p>Anybody who doesn&#8217;t have a problem with that should renounce his or her citizenship.</p>
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		By: Ulysses Uhaul		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/10/03/brown-struggles-to-hit-education-stride/#comment-97619</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2014 17:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Doomers it&#039;s over. Learn Espanol.....enjoy your breakfast burrito and lunch chalupa or 

Thank goodness they can&#039;t read your stuff!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doomers it&#8217;s over. Learn Espanol&#8230;..enjoy your breakfast burrito and lunch chalupa or </p>
<p>Thank goodness they can&#8217;t read your stuff!</p>
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		By: LetitCollapse		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/10/03/brown-struggles-to-hit-education-stride/#comment-97574</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LetitCollapse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2014 06:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/10/03/brown-struggles-to-hit-education-stride/#comment-97573&quot;&gt;LetitCollapse&lt;/a&gt;.

Correction to the above comment.

It&#039;s not over 60 million families. It&#039;s precisely 61.8 million RESIDENTS who live in the US speak a language other than english at home.

So that&#039;s about 1 of every 5 residents. 

The American culture is in the process of being destroyed. 

Scary, eh?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/10/03/brown-struggles-to-hit-education-stride/#comment-97573">LetitCollapse</a>.</p>
<p>Correction to the above comment.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not over 60 million families. It&#8217;s precisely 61.8 million RESIDENTS who live in the US speak a language other than english at home.</p>
<p>So that&#8217;s about 1 of every 5 residents. </p>
<p>The American culture is in the process of being destroyed. </p>
<p>Scary, eh?</p>
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		By: LetitCollapse		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/10/03/brown-struggles-to-hit-education-stride/#comment-97573</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LetitCollapse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2014 06:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just read that over 60 million families living in the US speak a language other than english at home! lol.

That&#039;s about 1 of every 5 families!

We are so screwed!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read that over 60 million families living in the US speak a language other than english at home! lol.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s about 1 of every 5 families!</p>
<p>We are so screwed!</p>
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		By: LetitCollapse		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/10/03/brown-struggles-to-hit-education-stride/#comment-97534</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2014 00:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/10/03/brown-struggles-to-hit-education-stride/#comment-97524&quot;&gt;californianative&lt;/a&gt;.

CN, all of them know full well that there is a DIRECT CORRELATION between the surge in enrollment of &#039;english second language&#039; students in K-12 and California&#039;s sharp decline in student academic achievement rankings. Jerry Brown himself admitted in his last election debate that 30% of California K-12 students are illegal or can&#039;t speak english. But NONE in the media will report the obvious. That&#039;s what really fries me. IMO omitting the truth in public news reports equates to a lie. And if they can lie about the damage caused by illegal immigration - they can lie about practically anything. 

One of the inherent factors or indicators of a civilized society is the health of their primary educational system. In California the bottom has fallen out. That is the reason the State has concealed all the K-12 academic performance comparisons prior to 1992. You won&#039;t be able to find them. IT IS TO HIDE THE TRUTH. But they can&#039;t erase my memory. At least not yet. I vividly recall when California had one of the best K-12 programs in the nation and did it with a significantly less percent of the State budget than they have today. 

Plus, they stole all the occupational shops from K-12 - woodworking, auto shop, metal shop, home econ, etc... from the schools because they needed the money for their ESL programs. And those occupational shops kept a certain percentage of the students in school - the ones who did not have a strong interest in the conventional academic program. And those occupational shops provided PRACTICAL AND HANDS-ON training that a kid could use for the rest of his life!!! And they were sacrificed for the ESL classes!!!! :(]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/10/03/brown-struggles-to-hit-education-stride/#comment-97524">californianative</a>.</p>
<p>CN, all of them know full well that there is a DIRECT CORRELATION between the surge in enrollment of &#8216;english second language&#8217; students in K-12 and California&#8217;s sharp decline in student academic achievement rankings. Jerry Brown himself admitted in his last election debate that 30% of California K-12 students are illegal or can&#8217;t speak english. But NONE in the media will report the obvious. That&#8217;s what really fries me. IMO omitting the truth in public news reports equates to a lie. And if they can lie about the damage caused by illegal immigration &#8211; they can lie about practically anything. </p>
<p>One of the inherent factors or indicators of a civilized society is the health of their primary educational system. In California the bottom has fallen out. That is the reason the State has concealed all the K-12 academic performance comparisons prior to 1992. You won&#8217;t be able to find them. IT IS TO HIDE THE TRUTH. But they can&#8217;t erase my memory. At least not yet. I vividly recall when California had one of the best K-12 programs in the nation and did it with a significantly less percent of the State budget than they have today. </p>
<p>Plus, they stole all the occupational shops from K-12 &#8211; woodworking, auto shop, metal shop, home econ, etc&#8230; from the schools because they needed the money for their ESL programs. And those occupational shops kept a certain percentage of the students in school &#8211; the ones who did not have a strong interest in the conventional academic program. And those occupational shops provided PRACTICAL AND HANDS-ON training that a kid could use for the rest of his life!!! And they were sacrificed for the ESL classes!!!! 🙁</p>
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		By: californianative		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/10/03/brown-struggles-to-hit-education-stride/#comment-97524</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2014 22:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[LetitCollapse,
2 thumbs up !! The problem is the affluent of California love their &quot; pets&quot; from south of the border. I know the schools are crap, but Juan and Jose ( my cheap gardener and handyman) have to send their kids to school somewhere. Oh well that&#039;s OK, my kids go to private school....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LetitCollapse,<br />
2 thumbs up !! The problem is the affluent of California love their &#8221; pets&#8221; from south of the border. I know the schools are crap, but Juan and Jose ( my cheap gardener and handyman) have to send their kids to school somewhere. Oh well that&#8217;s OK, my kids go to private school&#8230;.</p>
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		By: LetitCollapse		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/10/03/brown-struggles-to-hit-education-stride/#comment-97462</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LetitCollapse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2014 04:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/10/03/brown-struggles-to-hit-education-stride/#comment-97449&quot;&gt;Queeg&lt;/a&gt;.

What&#039;s boring with tracking demographic changes in K-12 and correlating it with national academic achievement rates? I think it&#039;s pretty interesting and we should learn from it.

Allowing illegal foreigners to break into our country and then enroll in our public school system at the taxpayer&#039;s expense is a very serious concern. If anybody would have the guts to poll the American taxpayers and ask them: &#039;Do you support the government using your taxdollars to educate foreigners who are illegally in the country?&#039; there is NO DOUBT that 80% of more of us would answer that question not just &quot;no&quot; but &quot;hell no&quot;. 

This is not a skin color or racial issue like it was in &quot;Birmingham&quot; during the civil rights movement. We&#039;re talking ILLEGAL FOREIGNERS here. It&#039;s a critical matter of national sovereignty. So don&#039;t confuse the two. Even the socialist western Europeans don&#039;t allow such nonsense. They realize that educating millions of indigent foreigners who illegally occupy a nation puts an enormous burden on the taxpayer, degrades the educational system and dilutes rule of law which is the glue that holds civilizations together. Equating modern day illegal immigration with the struggle the blacks went through in the civil rights era is absurd - and an insult to the black community.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/10/03/brown-struggles-to-hit-education-stride/#comment-97449">Queeg</a>.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s boring with tracking demographic changes in K-12 and correlating it with national academic achievement rates? I think it&#8217;s pretty interesting and we should learn from it.</p>
<p>Allowing illegal foreigners to break into our country and then enroll in our public school system at the taxpayer&#8217;s expense is a very serious concern. If anybody would have the guts to poll the American taxpayers and ask them: &#8216;Do you support the government using your taxdollars to educate foreigners who are illegally in the country?&#8217; there is NO DOUBT that 80% of more of us would answer that question not just &#8220;no&#8221; but &#8220;hell no&#8221;. </p>
<p>This is not a skin color or racial issue like it was in &#8220;Birmingham&#8221; during the civil rights movement. We&#8217;re talking ILLEGAL FOREIGNERS here. It&#8217;s a critical matter of national sovereignty. So don&#8217;t confuse the two. Even the socialist western Europeans don&#8217;t allow such nonsense. They realize that educating millions of indigent foreigners who illegally occupy a nation puts an enormous burden on the taxpayer, degrades the educational system and dilutes rule of law which is the glue that holds civilizations together. Equating modern day illegal immigration with the struggle the blacks went through in the civil rights era is absurd &#8211; and an insult to the black community.</p>
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		By: Queeg		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/10/03/brown-struggles-to-hit-education-stride/#comment-97449</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2014 00:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is so futile and boring.

Study Birmingham, Alabama public education.......then move on....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so futile and boring.</p>
<p>Study Birmingham, Alabama public education&#8230;&#8230;.then move on&#8230;.</p>
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		By: LetitCollapse		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LetitCollapse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2014 05:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Those of you old enough to remember the fall of Saigon surely recall a K-12 public school system in California that the residents could truly take pride in. Naturally, to hide the marked deterioration of the California schools the government has discarded all the comparative standardized test scores that ranked the State nationally. But we were up there with the best of them. Today? Well, today California stands at #47 out of 50 in academic achievement. There is no doubt that the huge upsurge of illegals coming into the State was a huge contributing factor to the decline. At first they tried to blame it on student hunger. (not kidding). They claimed the kids didn&#039;t have the proper nutritious diets required for concentration in school. So they started all the breakfast and lunch programs - and build cafeterias in most schools. Did that help? NOPE! Grades and test scores continued to fall. Then they blamed it on lack of funding and high student to teacher ratios. So there was a new school bond measure every year and mandated funding for K-12 which currently stands at about half the State budget. Did the increased funding help? NOPE! Grades and test scores continued to fall. PLUS, they discontinued really cool shop classes like woodworking, metal shop, automotive shop, home economics (for the girls), etc.... since they had to use all that money to establish all the ESL classes. As Jerry Brown remarked during his debate with CashKari - about 30% of K-12 students are illegal or can&#039;t speak english. lol. 

You know what really cracks me up? As California ranks #47 out of 50 in academic achievement you&#039;d think that the State legislators would come up with legislation that would actually repair the damage done to the academic side of the equation. Instead look at their offerings: Legislation making it easier to fire sexual perverts teaching the children, legislation   to crack down on the misuse of data collected from students, schools and school districts, legislation to ease discipline and punishment of disruptive students.....but NOTHING to really specically target improving the academic performance of the kids when they rank 47th in the nation!!! lol. Apparently, they&#039;ve given up on improving the academic achievement scores and have acquiesced to being one of the very crappiest school systems in the entire country! lol. So, instead, they focus on sexually perverted teachers, non-collection of data and to minimize discipline and punishment! lol.

The K-12 schools that I attended refused to put up with student nonsense. If we screwed around in class or defiantly failed to do our work - in grade school we were sent to the principal&#039;s office who proceeded to swat our behinds with a lilac branch that left welts. When I went home and complained to mom she asked me what I did to deserve it. When I told her I was shooting spitwads through my bic pen in class at my buddies or got caught using cheat notes on a test she&#039;d say &quot;Good, don&#039;t come cryin&#039; to me&quot;. 

Same in HS. The principal had a &#039;hack paddle&#039; which was a piece of pure brown leather that looked like something a barber would sharpen his razor on. 1st offense - 3 hacks on the butt. 2nd offense - 5 hacks. 3rd offense - 8 hacks. And it happened right out in the hallway in front of everyone who happened to walk by. If class was in session we could hear the hack paddle hitting paydirt down the hallway. You know what? The graduation rate was 100% and 85% of us went on to college and graduated.   

That&#039;s the way you run a school if you want the kids to perform. 

It&#039;s pathetic what they&#039;ve done to K-12 in California. Essentially, they&#039;ve destroyed the educational system with their liberal social engineering. I pity any good parent who doesn&#039;t have the money to send his or her kids to a private school. God help them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those of you old enough to remember the fall of Saigon surely recall a K-12 public school system in California that the residents could truly take pride in. Naturally, to hide the marked deterioration of the California schools the government has discarded all the comparative standardized test scores that ranked the State nationally. But we were up there with the best of them. Today? Well, today California stands at #47 out of 50 in academic achievement. There is no doubt that the huge upsurge of illegals coming into the State was a huge contributing factor to the decline. At first they tried to blame it on student hunger. (not kidding). They claimed the kids didn&#8217;t have the proper nutritious diets required for concentration in school. So they started all the breakfast and lunch programs &#8211; and build cafeterias in most schools. Did that help? NOPE! Grades and test scores continued to fall. Then they blamed it on lack of funding and high student to teacher ratios. So there was a new school bond measure every year and mandated funding for K-12 which currently stands at about half the State budget. Did the increased funding help? NOPE! Grades and test scores continued to fall. PLUS, they discontinued really cool shop classes like woodworking, metal shop, automotive shop, home economics (for the girls), etc&#8230;. since they had to use all that money to establish all the ESL classes. As Jerry Brown remarked during his debate with CashKari &#8211; about 30% of K-12 students are illegal or can&#8217;t speak english. lol. </p>
<p>You know what really cracks me up? As California ranks #47 out of 50 in academic achievement you&#8217;d think that the State legislators would come up with legislation that would actually repair the damage done to the academic side of the equation. Instead look at their offerings: Legislation making it easier to fire sexual perverts teaching the children, legislation   to crack down on the misuse of data collected from students, schools and school districts, legislation to ease discipline and punishment of disruptive students&#8230;..but NOTHING to really specically target improving the academic performance of the kids when they rank 47th in the nation!!! lol. Apparently, they&#8217;ve given up on improving the academic achievement scores and have acquiesced to being one of the very crappiest school systems in the entire country! lol. So, instead, they focus on sexually perverted teachers, non-collection of data and to minimize discipline and punishment! lol.</p>
<p>The K-12 schools that I attended refused to put up with student nonsense. If we screwed around in class or defiantly failed to do our work &#8211; in grade school we were sent to the principal&#8217;s office who proceeded to swat our behinds with a lilac branch that left welts. When I went home and complained to mom she asked me what I did to deserve it. When I told her I was shooting spitwads through my bic pen in class at my buddies or got caught using cheat notes on a test she&#8217;d say &#8220;Good, don&#8217;t come cryin&#8217; to me&#8221;. </p>
<p>Same in HS. The principal had a &#8216;hack paddle&#8217; which was a piece of pure brown leather that looked like something a barber would sharpen his razor on. 1st offense &#8211; 3 hacks on the butt. 2nd offense &#8211; 5 hacks. 3rd offense &#8211; 8 hacks. And it happened right out in the hallway in front of everyone who happened to walk by. If class was in session we could hear the hack paddle hitting paydirt down the hallway. You know what? The graduation rate was 100% and 85% of us went on to college and graduated.   </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the way you run a school if you want the kids to perform. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s pathetic what they&#8217;ve done to K-12 in California. Essentially, they&#8217;ve destroyed the educational system with their liberal social engineering. I pity any good parent who doesn&#8217;t have the money to send his or her kids to a private school. God help them.</p>
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