So what is your point? I simply challenged the statement made by another poster that zero votes are disallowed in elections–opinions are one thing–facts are another. The title and summary writers for initiatives in CA are the, respective, AG’s. If you are a responsible voter, you will be informed about the intent of any, respective, initiative that you are going to support, or not. The six-states initiative, for example–some thought it would be so much fun to see the circus that would ensue, if it got on the ballot. Most of the signature gatherers will tell you that the object is to just get the initiative on the ballot, good or bad. If you can cite any instance where a CA AG has lied about the title and description of any initiative, just to get votes, bring it on.

Yeah, so what? Many title & summary writers lie about intent just to get votes, as do politicians re: elections.

How do you know that “zero” votes are thrown out by election day for fraud? Let’s see your data!

The initiative system will continue to be a joke, as long as paid signature gathering is allowed. Many of the gatherers lie about the intent of the initiatives just to get the signatures.

Something is strange about a system when half the signatures on an initiative get thrown out, but ZERO votes are thrown out on election day for fraud.

Spare you the usual diatribe cause I like you all-