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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2014 22:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/10/25/are-benefits-of-prop-1-being-oversold/#comment-100256&quot;&gt;LetitCollapse&lt;/a&gt;.

El collapso :  not the sharpest tool in the shed!]]></description>
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<p>El collapso :  not the sharpest tool in the shed!</p>
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		By: LetitCollapse		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2014 05:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/10/25/are-benefits-of-prop-1-being-oversold/#comment-100201&quot;&gt;S Moderation Douglas&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;I run my pump twelve hours a day, and according to my utility, my “electicity” consumption is average for similar size houses in my area.&quot;

So you must not have a refrigerator or water heater in your home. hah. A pool pump and filter pump consumes a god-awful amount of electricity. You gas bill has to be above average as well. Homes with pools use 50% more energy than those that don&#039;t. It&#039;s a well-known fact. Do I have to post a proof source link for ya???]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/10/25/are-benefits-of-prop-1-being-oversold/#comment-100201">S Moderation Douglas</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;I run my pump twelve hours a day, and according to my utility, my “electicity” consumption is average for similar size houses in my area.&#8221;</p>
<p>So you must not have a refrigerator or water heater in your home. hah. A pool pump and filter pump consumes a god-awful amount of electricity. You gas bill has to be above average as well. Homes with pools use 50% more energy than those that don&#8217;t. It&#8217;s a well-known fact. Do I have to post a proof source link for ya???</p>
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		By: S Moderation Douglas		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/10/25/are-benefits-of-prop-1-being-oversold/#comment-100249</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[S Moderation Douglas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2014 02:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/10/25/are-benefits-of-prop-1-being-oversold/#comment-100215&quot;&gt;LetitCollapse&lt;/a&gt;.

Apparently, the Santa Margarita Water District didn&#039;t use Calapso math when they determined a pool uses less water than a lawn. Or Los Angeles Department of Water and Power. 

Or the Placer County Water Agency, whose analysis showed that the amount of water used for pools was inconsequential compared with total water use.

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&quot; Math dude. Math. Plue, a pool adds 50% to electicity and gas consumption.&quot;

?????????

I run my pump twelve hours a day, and according to my utility, my &quot;electicity&quot; consumption is average for similar size houses in my area.  

How do you make this stuff up?   

And, why?

Again, rhetorical question. You must have other windmills to tilt. 

AFK]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/10/25/are-benefits-of-prop-1-being-oversold/#comment-100215">LetitCollapse</a>.</p>
<p>Apparently, the Santa Margarita Water District didn&#8217;t use Calapso math when they determined a pool uses less water than a lawn. Or Los Angeles Department of Water and Power. </p>
<p>Or the Placer County Water Agency, whose analysis showed that the amount of water used for pools was inconsequential compared with total water use.</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
&#8221; Math dude. Math. Plue, a pool adds 50% to electicity and gas consumption.&#8221;</p>
<p>?????????</p>
<p>I run my pump twelve hours a day, and according to my utility, my &#8220;electicity&#8221; consumption is average for similar size houses in my area.  </p>
<p>How do you make this stuff up?   </p>
<p>And, why?</p>
<p>Again, rhetorical question. You must have other windmills to tilt. </p>
<p>AFK</p>
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		By: LetitCollapse		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/10/25/are-benefits-of-prop-1-being-oversold/#comment-100239</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2014 01:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/10/25/are-benefits-of-prop-1-being-oversold/#comment-100215&quot;&gt;LetitCollapse&lt;/a&gt;.

Pool evaporation alone is at least 8000 gallons a year, einstein. Uncovered pools evaporate 10k to 20k gallons a year. Do you think that once you fill the pool up all the water stays inside??? hah. An average lawn uses about 8000 gallons a year Math dude. Math. Plue, a pool adds 50% to electicity and gas consumption. Don&#039;t be a water and energy hog. Swim at your local YMCA as long as you don&#039;t resemble a hippo :D]]></description>
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<p>Pool evaporation alone is at least 8000 gallons a year, einstein. Uncovered pools evaporate 10k to 20k gallons a year. Do you think that once you fill the pool up all the water stays inside??? hah. An average lawn uses about 8000 gallons a year Math dude. Math. Plue, a pool adds 50% to electicity and gas consumption. Don&#8217;t be a water and energy hog. Swim at your local YMCA as long as you don&#8217;t resemble a hippo 😀</p>
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		By: S Moderation Douglas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[S Moderation Douglas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2014 23:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/10/25/are-benefits-of-prop-1-being-oversold/#comment-100215&quot;&gt;LetitCollapse&lt;/a&gt;.

LOL!!!! &quot;Collapso facts&quot;, as a wise man once said. 

&quot; the Santa Margarita Water District conducted its own water-use analysis. It found that pools require thousands of gallons of water to fill initially, but they use about 8,000 gallons less water than a traditional landscape after that. By the third year, the analysis found, the savings add up, and a pool&#039;s cumulative water use falls below that of a lawn.

Water agencies such as the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power have come to similar conclusions.
........................

Santa Margarita Water District ..... Los Angeles Department of Water and Power......Callapso math......

Who DO I believe?

No WAY I&#039;m going to  &quot;THE GYM OR TO YOUR LOCAL YMCA!!! &quot;

Apparently there are some real wackos that go there. 


Go ahead, pulverize some more arguments.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/10/25/are-benefits-of-prop-1-being-oversold/#comment-100215">LetitCollapse</a>.</p>
<p>LOL!!!! &#8220;Collapso facts&#8221;, as a wise man once said. </p>
<p>&#8221; the Santa Margarita Water District conducted its own water-use analysis. It found that pools require thousands of gallons of water to fill initially, but they use about 8,000 gallons less water than a traditional landscape after that. By the third year, the analysis found, the savings add up, and a pool&#8217;s cumulative water use falls below that of a lawn.</p>
<p>Water agencies such as the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power have come to similar conclusions.<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Santa Margarita Water District &#8230;.. Los Angeles Department of Water and Power&#8230;&#8230;Callapso math&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Who DO I believe?</p>
<p>No WAY I&#8217;m going to  &#8220;THE GYM OR TO YOUR LOCAL YMCA!!! &#8221;</p>
<p>Apparently there are some real wackos that go there. </p>
<p>Go ahead, pulverize some more arguments.</p>
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		By: LetitCollapse		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/10/25/are-benefits-of-prop-1-being-oversold/#comment-100223</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2014 21:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/10/25/are-benefits-of-prop-1-being-oversold/#comment-100215&quot;&gt;LetitCollapse&lt;/a&gt;.

The disingenuous part about you is that when I destroy one of your argument with facts you change the subtopic and go on to something else. First you said that a home pool has less water than the amount it take to water the grass. I pulverized your argument with actual facts and math. I showed that it does not cost $10k to $20k to remove grass and convert the space to a desert landscape. Do most people put a cover on their home pool when it&#039;s not in use? Answer: NO! Would water still evaporate with a pool cover? Answer: YES! In a 20000 gallon pool there would be A MINIMUM loss of 8,000 gallons per year. About the same number of gallons it would take an average homeowner to water his grass during the hot months of May-September. If you want to swim GO TO A PUBLIC POOL! Don&#039;t be a water and energy hog!!! Don&#039;t just think about yourself. Think about the greater good once in awhile. OK?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/10/25/are-benefits-of-prop-1-being-oversold/#comment-100215">LetitCollapse</a>.</p>
<p>The disingenuous part about you is that when I destroy one of your argument with facts you change the subtopic and go on to something else. First you said that a home pool has less water than the amount it take to water the grass. I pulverized your argument with actual facts and math. I showed that it does not cost $10k to $20k to remove grass and convert the space to a desert landscape. Do most people put a cover on their home pool when it&#8217;s not in use? Answer: NO! Would water still evaporate with a pool cover? Answer: YES! In a 20000 gallon pool there would be A MINIMUM loss of 8,000 gallons per year. About the same number of gallons it would take an average homeowner to water his grass during the hot months of May-September. If you want to swim GO TO A PUBLIC POOL! Don&#8217;t be a water and energy hog!!! Don&#8217;t just think about yourself. Think about the greater good once in awhile. OK?</p>
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		By: S Moderation Douglas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[S Moderation Douglas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2014 21:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/10/25/are-benefits-of-prop-1-being-oversold/#comment-100215&quot;&gt;LetitCollapse&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot; With pool covers, experts say water evaporation can be cut by almost half, making pools significantly less wasteful than grass and about as efficient as drought-tolerant landscaping.&quot;

http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-pool-haters-20140913-story.html

You kinda sound like them damb dumb liberals. &quot;I don&#039;t CARE if you have four kids, get rid of that SUV and get a PRIUS!!!

Do you really want to get rid of all the business for pool builders, equipment and chemical suppliers, and maintenance companies cause you think it &quot; looks bad&quot;?
.........
That was a rhetorical question. It&#039;s 70 degrees and sunny outside, and this may be the last week I can swim without a wetsuit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/10/25/are-benefits-of-prop-1-being-oversold/#comment-100215">LetitCollapse</a>.</p>
<p>&#8221; With pool covers, experts say water evaporation can be cut by almost half, making pools significantly less wasteful than grass and about as efficient as drought-tolerant landscaping.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-pool-haters-20140913-story.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-pool-haters-20140913-story.html</a></p>
<p>You kinda sound like them damb dumb liberals. &#8220;I don&#8217;t CARE if you have four kids, get rid of that SUV and get a PRIUS!!!</p>
<p>Do you really want to get rid of all the business for pool builders, equipment and chemical suppliers, and maintenance companies cause you think it &#8221; looks bad&#8221;?<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
That was a rhetorical question. It&#8217;s 70 degrees and sunny outside, and this may be the last week I can swim without a wetsuit.</p>
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		By: LetitCollapse		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2014 20:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/10/25/are-benefits-of-prop-1-being-oversold/#comment-100201&quot;&gt;S Moderation Douglas&lt;/a&gt;.

Who spends $10k to $20k on a drought garden? For an average urban yard it would cost $2k to $4k depending if there is a lighting and watering system installed. And it would save about 8000 gallons (or more) of water during the dry season. Most water districts pay for a large part, if not for all of the conversion. There&#039;s nothing wrong with shifting water from one ecology to another. So Cal doesn&#039;t have the High Sierras. If it did water would get tranferred in the opposite direction. Regardless of the amount of water urban areas use - we should ALWAYS think &#039;conservation&#039; during a drought. We don&#039;t know how long the drought will last and supplies are limited. Everybody doesn&#039;t need a grass yard. You people are living back in the days of Ozzie and Harriot. Grow up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/10/25/are-benefits-of-prop-1-being-oversold/#comment-100201">S Moderation Douglas</a>.</p>
<p>Who spends $10k to $20k on a drought garden? For an average urban yard it would cost $2k to $4k depending if there is a lighting and watering system installed. And it would save about 8000 gallons (or more) of water during the dry season. Most water districts pay for a large part, if not for all of the conversion. There&#8217;s nothing wrong with shifting water from one ecology to another. So Cal doesn&#8217;t have the High Sierras. If it did water would get tranferred in the opposite direction. Regardless of the amount of water urban areas use &#8211; we should ALWAYS think &#8216;conservation&#8217; during a drought. We don&#8217;t know how long the drought will last and supplies are limited. Everybody doesn&#8217;t need a grass yard. You people are living back in the days of Ozzie and Harriot. Grow up.</p>
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		By: LetitCollapse		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2014 19:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/10/25/are-benefits-of-prop-1-being-oversold/#comment-100195&quot;&gt;LetitCollapse&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh, and I didn&#039;t even factor in the water evaporation rate in a home pool. The average pool loses about 2&quot; of water per week. This can amount to 10,000 to 20,000 gallons of water lost due to evaporation alone in a single year! 

Oh, and the average home with a pool uses about 50% more energy (electricity and gas) than a home without a pool! Home pools are water and energy WASTERS! 

If you want to swim do as I do - GO TO THE GYM OR TO YOUR LOCAL YMCA!!!! Stop being a water and energy hog!!! :(]]></description>
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<p>Oh, and I didn&#8217;t even factor in the water evaporation rate in a home pool. The average pool loses about 2&#8243; of water per week. This can amount to 10,000 to 20,000 gallons of water lost due to evaporation alone in a single year! </p>
<p>Oh, and the average home with a pool uses about 50% more energy (electricity and gas) than a home without a pool! Home pools are water and energy WASTERS! </p>
<p>If you want to swim do as I do &#8211; GO TO THE GYM OR TO YOUR LOCAL YMCA!!!! Stop being a water and energy hog!!! 🙁</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2014 18:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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I deal in fact and math. You deal in hype. Let the readers decide who to trust! ;)
I approve this message! :)]]></description>
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<p>I deal in fact and math. You deal in hype. Let the readers decide who to trust! 😉<br />
I approve this message! 🙂</p>
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