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		By: ricky65		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ricky65]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2014 16:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/11/10/gov-brown-faces-high-speed-rail-hurdles/#comment-101995&quot;&gt;SeeSaw&lt;/a&gt;.

Wrong, as usual.
lReagan signed the collective bargaining law for LOCAL public employees. Brown signed the Dills Act that gave right CB rights to STATE employees and the next year to teachers in &#039;78&#038;&#039;79 as I recall. 
These two acts of stupidity spawned the birth of the CTA and the SEIU which are the source of many of our PE union problems today. Because they now wholly own the Dem party, our school scores are at the bottom in the nation and our unfunded pension liabilities are near collapse and have the taxpayers on the hook for hundreds of billions of dollars.
When Reagan and Brown Sr. were in office the state we spent nearly 20% of our budget for infrastructure. Now it is only a few percent of the total and Brown,Jr. stopped nearly all of it by appointing hacks and old girlfriends to his cabinet. Adriana Gianturco was appointed director of Caltrans and stopped building freeways and highways. Rose Bird was appointed Chief Justice and threw the courts in turmoil. The death penalty was banned which why we still are feeding Charley Manson today. The voters finally had enough and later tossed her and a couple other Brown cronies off the bench, but not before permanent damage was done. 
Just a couple of examples.
If you would get off your knees with the hero worship of this guy and read some California history you might be surprised. This  has screwed up everything he has ever tried. He wanted to be a Jesuit priest and later quit the seminary. He tried to run a talk show and if tanked because people got tired of his BS rap. Was elected mayor of Oakland and left it broke with the highest murder rate in the country.
So I guess the best thing you can say about this clown is that he&#039;s a &quot;smart politician&quot;. 
Wow! At least he can put that on his empty suit statue some day. I&#039;m still waiting for someone to point out one substantial accomplishment he has made during his tenure. Which is why he is so dangerous regarding legacy issues with the &#039;Brown Streak&#039; and the twin tunnels project. 

Hey that reminds me: he tried to get the original peripheral canal project done in the 80&#039;s.  It was the father of the twin tunnels project today. Got slapped down by huge margins by the voters. Failure IS HIS LEGACY!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/11/10/gov-brown-faces-high-speed-rail-hurdles/#comment-101995">SeeSaw</a>.</p>
<p>Wrong, as usual.<br />
lReagan signed the collective bargaining law for LOCAL public employees. Brown signed the Dills Act that gave right CB rights to STATE employees and the next year to teachers in &#8217;78&amp;&#8217;79 as I recall.<br />
These two acts of stupidity spawned the birth of the CTA and the SEIU which are the source of many of our PE union problems today. Because they now wholly own the Dem party, our school scores are at the bottom in the nation and our unfunded pension liabilities are near collapse and have the taxpayers on the hook for hundreds of billions of dollars.<br />
When Reagan and Brown Sr. were in office the state we spent nearly 20% of our budget for infrastructure. Now it is only a few percent of the total and Brown,Jr. stopped nearly all of it by appointing hacks and old girlfriends to his cabinet. Adriana Gianturco was appointed director of Caltrans and stopped building freeways and highways. Rose Bird was appointed Chief Justice and threw the courts in turmoil. The death penalty was banned which why we still are feeding Charley Manson today. The voters finally had enough and later tossed her and a couple other Brown cronies off the bench, but not before permanent damage was done.<br />
Just a couple of examples.<br />
If you would get off your knees with the hero worship of this guy and read some California history you might be surprised. This  has screwed up everything he has ever tried. He wanted to be a Jesuit priest and later quit the seminary. He tried to run a talk show and if tanked because people got tired of his BS rap. Was elected mayor of Oakland and left it broke with the highest murder rate in the country.<br />
So I guess the best thing you can say about this clown is that he&#8217;s a &#8220;smart politician&#8221;.<br />
Wow! At least he can put that on his empty suit statue some day. I&#8217;m still waiting for someone to point out one substantial accomplishment he has made during his tenure. Which is why he is so dangerous regarding legacy issues with the &#8216;Brown Streak&#8217; and the twin tunnels project. </p>
<p>Hey that reminds me: he tried to get the original peripheral canal project done in the 80&#8217;s.  It was the father of the twin tunnels project today. Got slapped down by huge margins by the voters. Failure IS HIS LEGACY!!</p>
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		By: LetitCollapse		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/11/10/gov-brown-faces-high-speed-rail-hurdles/#comment-102064</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LetitCollapse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2014 07:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/11/10/gov-brown-faces-high-speed-rail-hurdles/#comment-101995&quot;&gt;SeeSaw&lt;/a&gt;.

All we need is Mrs. Clown running the State with tarot cards and wigi boards, seesaw. This is no time to be idealistic. The future of the State is at stake! ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/11/10/gov-brown-faces-high-speed-rail-hurdles/#comment-101995">SeeSaw</a>.</p>
<p>All we need is Mrs. Clown running the State with tarot cards and wigi boards, seesaw. This is no time to be idealistic. The future of the State is at stake! 😉</p>
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		By: LetitCollapse		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/11/10/gov-brown-faces-high-speed-rail-hurdles/#comment-102063</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LetitCollapse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2014 07:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/11/10/gov-brown-faces-high-speed-rail-hurdles/#comment-101995&quot;&gt;SeeSaw&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;And, knock it off, Ken. JB is not senile! He is a smart politician–a fact that must be giving you some acid reflux!&quot;

Ah baloney, seesaw. Didn&#039;t you watch him debate CashnCarry. Jerry Clown is no longer an 8 cylinder. Today&#039;s he&#039;s only hitting on 4. By 2018 the poor man is going to have to wear a bib to keep from drooling on his shirt. Both he and Feinstein need to resign and go old folk&#039;s home shopping together. There&#039;s nothing more pathetic than a high-powered politician in charge of a state who&#039;s a taco and a side of spanish rice short of a full combo. We need somebody who&#039;s got all his marbles. Our children&#039;s futures depend on it!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/11/10/gov-brown-faces-high-speed-rail-hurdles/#comment-101995">SeeSaw</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;And, knock it off, Ken. JB is not senile! He is a smart politician–a fact that must be giving you some acid reflux!&#8221;</p>
<p>Ah baloney, seesaw. Didn&#8217;t you watch him debate CashnCarry. Jerry Clown is no longer an 8 cylinder. Today&#8217;s he&#8217;s only hitting on 4. By 2018 the poor man is going to have to wear a bib to keep from drooling on his shirt. Both he and Feinstein need to resign and go old folk&#8217;s home shopping together. There&#8217;s nothing more pathetic than a high-powered politician in charge of a state who&#8217;s a taco and a side of spanish rice short of a full combo. We need somebody who&#8217;s got all his marbles. Our children&#8217;s futures depend on it!</p>
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		By: Ted E Mind of your Godhead Ted		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/11/10/gov-brown-faces-high-speed-rail-hurdles/#comment-102048</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted E Mind of your Godhead Ted]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2014 05:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good reminder SeeSaw---  I plum forgot how implicated the Reagan Jesus was in our current situation! Looks like a few Doomers did too!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good reminder SeeSaw&#8212;  I plum forgot how implicated the Reagan Jesus was in our current situation! Looks like a few Doomers did too!</p>
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		By: Ted E Mind of your Godhead Ted		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/11/10/gov-brown-faces-high-speed-rail-hurdles/#comment-102047</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted E Mind of your Godhead Ted]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2014 05:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/11/10/gov-brown-faces-high-speed-rail-hurdles/#comment-101965&quot;&gt;Ken&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree Ken--- but the mood out here in teabag land is 100% wuss---   way to afraid to dream big and work hard!
Of course we need to move forward----  there aint a leader out here!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/11/10/gov-brown-faces-high-speed-rail-hurdles/#comment-101965">Ken</a>.</p>
<p>I agree Ken&#8212; but the mood out here in teabag land is 100% wuss&#8212;   way to afraid to dream big and work hard!<br />
Of course we need to move forward&#8212;-  there aint a leader out here!</p>
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		By: SeeSaw		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/11/10/gov-brown-faces-high-speed-rail-hurdles/#comment-101995</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2014 19:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[R65, to see you tell it, JB raised his hands to the sky 40 years ago and created the State of CA and everything else that followed!  I hate to tell you, but CA with everything it has, including the public-sector employee unions was already here before his first election.  (Your pal, Governor Reagan signed on the first collective bargaining agreement for public employees in CA in 1968.)  He is a mortal human being--no human being can be responsible for everything for which you give him credit or blame!

And, knock it off, Ken.  JB is not senile!  He is a smart politician--a fact that must be giving you some acid reflux!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R65, to see you tell it, JB raised his hands to the sky 40 years ago and created the State of CA and everything else that followed!  I hate to tell you, but CA with everything it has, including the public-sector employee unions was already here before his first election.  (Your pal, Governor Reagan signed on the first collective bargaining agreement for public employees in CA in 1968.)  He is a mortal human being&#8211;no human being can be responsible for everything for which you give him credit or blame!</p>
<p>And, knock it off, Ken.  JB is not senile!  He is a smart politician&#8211;a fact that must be giving you some acid reflux!</p>
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		By: ricky65		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/11/10/gov-brown-faces-high-speed-rail-hurdles/#comment-101984</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ricky65]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/11/10/gov-brown-faces-high-speed-rail-hurdles/#comment-101965&quot;&gt;Ken&lt;/a&gt;.

Ok, Ken, I gotta ask it.. What, and where is the market for HSR? 
It will not move freight. It will not move commuters because just exactly who are the commuters who need to travel between LA and SF? If there are some, are they willing to spend 6 hrs on a train only to need to rent a car or expensive taxi once they reach their destination? A short plane ride between the two cities will always be faster and cheaper.  
And I say 6 hrs because the fantastically over advertised two hour ride is fantasy. Once all the cities along the route weigh in with their demand for a station the thing will descend into a Greyhound bus like milk run. 
Let&#039;s face it. This is last chance for Jerry Brown to establish a real legacy. After four terms as governor he has nothing to claim as an achievement. JB is nothing like his father who dreamed big and delivered in the form of infrastructure like the state water project, nearly free university system an state college and the once fantastic freeway system.
From the beginning of his time in the 70&#039;s,  once young Brown has only promised a an &#039;era of limits&#039; and a &#039;less is more&#039; philosophy. I&#039;ll give him credit delivering exactly as promised. 
His policies have delivered chaos in the form of crumbling infrastructure, decaying schools, a hyper-partisan legislature, politicalization of the courts and militant public employee unions bleeding the taxpayers dry.
As he approaches the twilight years, he knows he needs something to hang his hat on. There are no remembered heroes in the Luddite hall of fame. So he will do this without federal funds if need be.
 
It will require digging into the pockets of already hard pressed middle class working class to keep the rails of the Brown Streak greased. There is a vast amount untapped amount of cash available using cap&#038;trade funds extorted by ever increasing gasoline carbon taxes and other green energy scams authorized by AB 32. And if you have to destroy the middle class along the way?  Well, that&#039;s just collateral damage. 
It must be done because hell hath no fury like a politician in search of a legacy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/11/10/gov-brown-faces-high-speed-rail-hurdles/#comment-101965">Ken</a>.</p>
<p>Ok, Ken, I gotta ask it.. What, and where is the market for HSR?<br />
It will not move freight. It will not move commuters because just exactly who are the commuters who need to travel between LA and SF? If there are some, are they willing to spend 6 hrs on a train only to need to rent a car or expensive taxi once they reach their destination? A short plane ride between the two cities will always be faster and cheaper.<br />
And I say 6 hrs because the fantastically over advertised two hour ride is fantasy. Once all the cities along the route weigh in with their demand for a station the thing will descend into a Greyhound bus like milk run.<br />
Let&#8217;s face it. This is last chance for Jerry Brown to establish a real legacy. After four terms as governor he has nothing to claim as an achievement. JB is nothing like his father who dreamed big and delivered in the form of infrastructure like the state water project, nearly free university system an state college and the once fantastic freeway system.<br />
From the beginning of his time in the 70&#8217;s,  once young Brown has only promised a an &#8216;era of limits&#8217; and a &#8216;less is more&#8217; philosophy. I&#8217;ll give him credit delivering exactly as promised.<br />
His policies have delivered chaos in the form of crumbling infrastructure, decaying schools, a hyper-partisan legislature, politicalization of the courts and militant public employee unions bleeding the taxpayers dry.<br />
As he approaches the twilight years, he knows he needs something to hang his hat on. There are no remembered heroes in the Luddite hall of fame. So he will do this without federal funds if need be.</p>
<p>It will require digging into the pockets of already hard pressed middle class working class to keep the rails of the Brown Streak greased. There is a vast amount untapped amount of cash available using cap&amp;trade funds extorted by ever increasing gasoline carbon taxes and other green energy scams authorized by AB 32. And if you have to destroy the middle class along the way?  Well, that&#8217;s just collateral damage.<br />
It must be done because hell hath no fury like a politician in search of a legacy.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I know it&#039;s blasphemy in this forum, but California needs high speed rail (HSR). Other than dumping redevelopment, which now he is reneging on, Moonbeam is OK to press on HSR. These are the only two major things on which I agree with the senile old fool, his earlier stance on redevelopment and HSR. Sorry. Look at our highways. We need modern rail services and we need them as soon as we can get them. Let&#039;s say we wait till 2050, think things will get better and building rail lines will be cheaper? Nope, they won&#039;t. We gotta go for it now. We&#039;re broke anyway. Just let&#039;s do it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it&#8217;s blasphemy in this forum, but California needs high speed rail (HSR). Other than dumping redevelopment, which now he is reneging on, Moonbeam is OK to press on HSR. These are the only two major things on which I agree with the senile old fool, his earlier stance on redevelopment and HSR. Sorry. Look at our highways. We need modern rail services and we need them as soon as we can get them. Let&#8217;s say we wait till 2050, think things will get better and building rail lines will be cheaper? Nope, they won&#8217;t. We gotta go for it now. We&#8217;re broke anyway. Just let&#8217;s do it.</p>
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		By: Ted E Mind of your Godhead Ted		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted E Mind of your Godhead Ted]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2014 05:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My God Duncey is talking to herself............again]]></description>
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		By: LetitCollapse		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LetitCollapse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2014 00:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I will not roll over and say Wah, Wah, one party rule, I can’t make a difference. If I believed that I might as well live in Russia.&quot;

Btw, Russia is not the fascist state that the propogandists want you to believe. North Korea? Absolutely. Russia? Not a snowball&#039;s chance in hell. In the last 15 years we have moved MUCH closer to what the Russian people lived under in the Soviet Union. We illegally eavesdrop on our own citizens in violation of the 4th Amendment. We are nation builders and expansionists who invade other sovereign nations at the drop of a hat. We live in a virtual police state where cops can shoot down unarmed people, keep their jobs without prosecution and even get promoted. The gap between the rich (oligarchs) and the poor has widened enormously in the last 15 years. Our leaders are promoting an invasion of indigent foreigners who are allowed to steal our jobs and our resources - so the oligarchs get the cheap labor and their votes. Open your eyes, Kathy. This is no longer the America I once knew and loved. We are moving closer and closer to Soviet Unionism.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I will not roll over and say Wah, Wah, one party rule, I can’t make a difference. If I believed that I might as well live in Russia.&#8221;</p>
<p>Btw, Russia is not the fascist state that the propogandists want you to believe. North Korea? Absolutely. Russia? Not a snowball&#8217;s chance in hell. In the last 15 years we have moved MUCH closer to what the Russian people lived under in the Soviet Union. We illegally eavesdrop on our own citizens in violation of the 4th Amendment. We are nation builders and expansionists who invade other sovereign nations at the drop of a hat. We live in a virtual police state where cops can shoot down unarmed people, keep their jobs without prosecution and even get promoted. The gap between the rich (oligarchs) and the poor has widened enormously in the last 15 years. Our leaders are promoting an invasion of indigent foreigners who are allowed to steal our jobs and our resources &#8211; so the oligarchs get the cheap labor and their votes. Open your eyes, Kathy. This is no longer the America I once knew and loved. We are moving closer and closer to Soviet Unionism.</p>
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