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		By: Skippingdog		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/12/07/san-jose-police-union-stalls-officer-cameras-cites-privacy/#comment-105125</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skippingdog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2014 04:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/12/07/san-jose-police-union-stalls-officer-cameras-cites-privacy/#comment-104725&quot;&gt;SkippingDog&lt;/a&gt;.

You are hopeless, Timmy.  No point in arguing with your belligerent ignorance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/12/07/san-jose-police-union-stalls-officer-cameras-cites-privacy/#comment-104725">SkippingDog</a>.</p>
<p>You are hopeless, Timmy.  No point in arguing with your belligerent ignorance.</p>
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		By: Timberrrrrr......		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/12/07/san-jose-police-union-stalls-officer-cameras-cites-privacy/#comment-105098</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timberrrrrr......]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2014 21:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/12/07/san-jose-police-union-stalls-officer-cameras-cites-privacy/#comment-104725&quot;&gt;SkippingDog&lt;/a&gt;.

It is YOU who can&#039;t seem to comprehend that 90% of the states follow the United States vs. Williams SCOTUS ruling and do not require their prosecutors to disclose exculpatory evidence to their state grand juries. And 100% of the Federal district grand jury prosecutors (assistant US attorneys) do not disclose exculpatory evidence, per the Williams ruling. Let that SINK IN AND STICK, chief!!!! Did they give you any legal training during your career??? :D]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/12/07/san-jose-police-union-stalls-officer-cameras-cites-privacy/#comment-104725">SkippingDog</a>.</p>
<p>It is YOU who can&#8217;t seem to comprehend that 90% of the states follow the United States vs. Williams SCOTUS ruling and do not require their prosecutors to disclose exculpatory evidence to their state grand juries. And 100% of the Federal district grand jury prosecutors (assistant US attorneys) do not disclose exculpatory evidence, per the Williams ruling. Let that SINK IN AND STICK, chief!!!! Did they give you any legal training during your career??? 😀</p>
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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippingDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/12/07/san-jose-police-union-stalls-officer-cameras-cites-privacy/#comment-104725&quot;&gt;SkippingDog&lt;/a&gt;.

Required is a mandatory term.  Williams articulated a permissive activity.  It is you, once more, who doesn&#039;t understand the difference.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/12/07/san-jose-police-union-stalls-officer-cameras-cites-privacy/#comment-104725">SkippingDog</a>.</p>
<p>Required is a mandatory term.  Williams articulated a permissive activity.  It is you, once more, who doesn&#8217;t understand the difference.</p>
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		By: Timberrrrrr......		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/12/07/san-jose-police-union-stalls-officer-cameras-cites-privacy/#comment-105092</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timberrrrrr......]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2014 19:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/12/07/san-jose-police-union-stalls-officer-cameras-cites-privacy/#comment-104725&quot;&gt;SkippingDog&lt;/a&gt;.

[EDITED] Didn&#039;t you even read the prelude to your own cite in 3-3.5? Here it is:

&quot;Unless otherwise required by the law or applicable rules of ethical conduct of the jurisdiction, the following should apply to evidence presented to the grand jury:&quot;

IOW&#039;s if the law (SCOTUS United States vs. Williams ruling) says that the prosecutor is NOT required to present exculpatory evidence to the GJ - it means HE DOESN&#039;T HAVE TO!!!!

90% of the states FOLLOW the SCOTUS ruling in their criminal legal proceedings!!! 

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/12/07/san-jose-police-union-stalls-officer-cameras-cites-privacy/#comment-104725">SkippingDog</a>.</p>
<p>[EDITED] Didn&#8217;t you even read the prelude to your own cite in 3-3.5? Here it is:</p>
<p>&#8220;Unless otherwise required by the law or applicable rules of ethical conduct of the jurisdiction, the following should apply to evidence presented to the grand jury:&#8221;</p>
<p>IOW&#8217;s if the law (SCOTUS United States vs. Williams ruling) says that the prosecutor is NOT required to present exculpatory evidence to the GJ &#8211; it means HE DOESN&#8217;T HAVE TO!!!!</p>
<p>90% of the states FOLLOW the SCOTUS ruling in their criminal legal proceedings!!! </p>
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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/12/07/san-jose-police-union-stalls-officer-cameras-cites-privacy/#comment-105022</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippingDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2014 03:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/12/07/san-jose-police-union-stalls-officer-cameras-cites-privacy/#comment-104725&quot;&gt;SkippingDog&lt;/a&gt;.

Last post on this subject, Timmy -

Read section 3-3.5 for the ethical obligations of a prosecutor before a grand jury.  Every state ethics code reflects this requirement as well.

http://www.ndaa.org/pdf/NDAA%20NPS%203rd%20Ed.%20w%20Revised%20Commentary.pdf]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/12/07/san-jose-police-union-stalls-officer-cameras-cites-privacy/#comment-104725">SkippingDog</a>.</p>
<p>Last post on this subject, Timmy &#8211;</p>
<p>Read section 3-3.5 for the ethical obligations of a prosecutor before a grand jury.  Every state ethics code reflects this requirement as well.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ndaa.org/pdf/NDAA%20NPS%203rd%20Ed.%20w%20Revised%20Commentary.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.ndaa.org/pdf/NDAA%20NPS%203rd%20Ed.%20w%20Revised%20Commentary.pdf</a></p>
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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippingDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2014 00:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/12/07/san-jose-police-union-stalls-officer-cameras-cites-privacy/#comment-104901&quot;&gt;SkippingDog&lt;/a&gt;.

See above.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/12/07/san-jose-police-union-stalls-officer-cameras-cites-privacy/#comment-104901">SkippingDog</a>.</p>
<p>See above.</p>
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		By: Timberrrrrr......		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/12/07/san-jose-police-union-stalls-officer-cameras-cites-privacy/#comment-104959</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timberrrrrr......]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2014 19:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/12/07/san-jose-police-union-stalls-officer-cameras-cites-privacy/#comment-104901&quot;&gt;SkippingDog&lt;/a&gt;.

And we know enough about you to know that your incredibly stubbornly ignorant and unwilling to concede the truth even when it is shoved down your pencil-necked throat!!! :D]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/12/07/san-jose-police-union-stalls-officer-cameras-cites-privacy/#comment-104901">SkippingDog</a>.</p>
<p>And we know enough about you to know that your incredibly stubbornly ignorant and unwilling to concede the truth even when it is shoved down your pencil-necked throat!!! 😀</p>
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		By: Timberrrrrr......		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timberrrrrr......]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2014 19:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/12/07/san-jose-police-union-stalls-officer-cameras-cites-privacy/#comment-104725&quot;&gt;SkippingDog&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Once again, you forget the basic ethical requirement that a prosecutor must believe he has sufficient evidence to prove a charge beyond a reasonable doubt, before he/she ever charges an individual through an information or seeks an indictment from a grand jury.&quot;

You&#039;re just too stubbornly ignorant.

In the LARGE majority of states there is NO obligation on part of the prosecutor to disclose exculpatory evidence to a Grand Jury when seeking an indictment. Again, this was CLEARLY explained in the United States vs. William case. And 80-90% of the states adhere to this SCOTUS ruling. It not only applies to Federal courts. It can also be adopted by the states since it is a CONSTITUTIONAL ruling - that applies to ALL!!! 

Your ignorance on the workings of our nation&#039;s justice system is overwhelming. Did you really run a cop shop? Please....tell me &quot;no&quot; to restore some of my faith in the system.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/12/07/san-jose-police-union-stalls-officer-cameras-cites-privacy/#comment-104725">SkippingDog</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Once again, you forget the basic ethical requirement that a prosecutor must believe he has sufficient evidence to prove a charge beyond a reasonable doubt, before he/she ever charges an individual through an information or seeks an indictment from a grand jury.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re just too stubbornly ignorant.</p>
<p>In the LARGE majority of states there is NO obligation on part of the prosecutor to disclose exculpatory evidence to a Grand Jury when seeking an indictment. Again, this was CLEARLY explained in the United States vs. William case. And 80-90% of the states adhere to this SCOTUS ruling. It not only applies to Federal courts. It can also be adopted by the states since it is a CONSTITUTIONAL ruling &#8211; that applies to ALL!!! </p>
<p>Your ignorance on the workings of our nation&#8217;s justice system is overwhelming. Did you really run a cop shop? Please&#8230;.tell me &#8220;no&#8221; to restore some of my faith in the system.</p>
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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/12/07/san-jose-police-union-stalls-officer-cameras-cites-privacy/#comment-104902</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippingDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2014 07:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/12/07/san-jose-police-union-stalls-officer-cameras-cites-privacy/#comment-104725&quot;&gt;SkippingDog&lt;/a&gt;.

Once again, you forget the basic ethical requirement that a prosecutor must believe he has sufficient evidence to prove a charge beyond a reasonable doubt, before he/she ever charges an individual through an information or seeks an indictment from a grand jury.  The Williams case was about the prosecutor&#039;s error in not presenting exculpatory evidence.  That a 5-4 Supreme Court ruled in favor of the prosecutor over the rule of law should bother someone like you, but it&#039;s clear you don&#039;t really understand the issues or the case.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/12/07/san-jose-police-union-stalls-officer-cameras-cites-privacy/#comment-104725">SkippingDog</a>.</p>
<p>Once again, you forget the basic ethical requirement that a prosecutor must believe he has sufficient evidence to prove a charge beyond a reasonable doubt, before he/she ever charges an individual through an information or seeks an indictment from a grand jury.  The Williams case was about the prosecutor&#8217;s error in not presenting exculpatory evidence.  That a 5-4 Supreme Court ruled in favor of the prosecutor over the rule of law should bother someone like you, but it&#8217;s clear you don&#8217;t really understand the issues or the case.</p>
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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippingDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2014 07:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/12/07/san-jose-police-union-stalls-officer-cameras-cites-privacy/#comment-104892&quot;&gt;Timberrrrrr......&lt;/a&gt;.

I know enough about you to know you&#039;re a crackpot.  That&#039;s all that matters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/12/07/san-jose-police-union-stalls-officer-cameras-cites-privacy/#comment-104892">Timberrrrrr&#8230;&#8230;</a>.</p>
<p>I know enough about you to know you&#8217;re a crackpot.  That&#8217;s all that matters.</p>
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