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		By: Timberrrrrr......		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/12/08/minimum-wage-debate-history-and-examples/#comment-104817</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timberrrrrr......]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2014 18:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/12/08/minimum-wage-debate-history-and-examples/#comment-104815&quot;&gt;Bill Gore&lt;/a&gt;.

Bill, you mean that there are still family owned farms? I thought big business bought them out decades ago. To buy farm land you have to be filthy rich, Bill. Today you&#039;ve got 5% of the nation with about 90% of the wealth. And that 5% wouldn&#039;t get dirt under their fingernails working on a farm. You know that. They make their money by taking it from other people (ie. Wall Street crooks). I agree that employers should pick up more of the employee salaries and benefits. It&#039;s unfair to pay them slave wages and then expect the taxpayers to subsidize their food, housing, medical care, etc.... But read my previous comment. You&#039;re going to get to the point that employers pay someone with a 9th grade education almost as much as a college grad who spent $50,000 to get his or her degree. Hell man. THAT&#039;S COMMUNISM!!! Do you get my point? So if Jose the fry basket shaker gets a raise to $15/hr., the college grad making $20/hr. should get a raise to $30/hr. Right? Would that happen? Not a snowballs chance in hell, my friend. And therein lies your problem. Do you want fry basket shakers making as much as college grads? Well, do you???]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/12/08/minimum-wage-debate-history-and-examples/#comment-104815">Bill Gore</a>.</p>
<p>Bill, you mean that there are still family owned farms? I thought big business bought them out decades ago. To buy farm land you have to be filthy rich, Bill. Today you&#8217;ve got 5% of the nation with about 90% of the wealth. And that 5% wouldn&#8217;t get dirt under their fingernails working on a farm. You know that. They make their money by taking it from other people (ie. Wall Street crooks). I agree that employers should pick up more of the employee salaries and benefits. It&#8217;s unfair to pay them slave wages and then expect the taxpayers to subsidize their food, housing, medical care, etc&#8230;. But read my previous comment. You&#8217;re going to get to the point that employers pay someone with a 9th grade education almost as much as a college grad who spent $50,000 to get his or her degree. Hell man. THAT&#8217;S COMMUNISM!!! Do you get my point? So if Jose the fry basket shaker gets a raise to $15/hr., the college grad making $20/hr. should get a raise to $30/hr. Right? Would that happen? Not a snowballs chance in hell, my friend. And therein lies your problem. Do you want fry basket shakers making as much as college grads? Well, do you???</p>
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		By: Bill Gore		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2014 17:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/12/08/minimum-wage-debate-history-and-examples/#comment-104599&quot;&gt;Timberrrrrr......&lt;/a&gt;.

I get it Timberr, many business owners HATE paying their employees, and consider it their birthright to get dirt cheap, slave labor. And if those full-timers are pulling benefits such as SNAP, WIC, Section 8 housing, etc etc who cares? Of course, lurking in the background is the maxim that &quot;if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.&quot; Fact is real wages have been stagnant to shrinking for about 25 years. Fact is the national government is deliberately flooding the country with unskilled labor (SO humanitarian..) pushing down wages while raising housing costs. Instead of focusing on the fairness argument, viz-a-viz the non-marketability of most college degrees, smart young people, IMHO should REALLY start looking at the skilled trades and agriculture. Yes, I said agriculture. Most farmers now are over 60. The fundamentals for SMART, well-run farming operations have never looked better. But kids now are so conditioned to think they have to be &#039;smart&#039; google yuppies.....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/12/08/minimum-wage-debate-history-and-examples/#comment-104599">Timberrrrrr&#8230;&#8230;</a>.</p>
<p>I get it Timberr, many business owners HATE paying their employees, and consider it their birthright to get dirt cheap, slave labor. And if those full-timers are pulling benefits such as SNAP, WIC, Section 8 housing, etc etc who cares? Of course, lurking in the background is the maxim that &#8220;if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.&#8221; Fact is real wages have been stagnant to shrinking for about 25 years. Fact is the national government is deliberately flooding the country with unskilled labor (SO humanitarian..) pushing down wages while raising housing costs. Instead of focusing on the fairness argument, viz-a-viz the non-marketability of most college degrees, smart young people, IMHO should REALLY start looking at the skilled trades and agriculture. Yes, I said agriculture. Most farmers now are over 60. The fundamentals for SMART, well-run farming operations have never looked better. But kids now are so conditioned to think they have to be &#8216;smart&#8217; google yuppies&#8230;..</p>
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		By: Timberrrrrr......		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/12/08/minimum-wage-debate-history-and-examples/#comment-104599</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timberrrrrr......]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2014 05:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s take a journalism major, for instance. How much is that worth in the US economy today? Chime in, CWD reporters! You are probably pretty lucky you landed a job at CWD and I bet you don&#039;t make very much coin. You probably have to write for 5 or 6 different publications to make ends meet, doncha? Journalism used to be a decent major. But with all the newspapers dying and on shoestring budgets it&#039;s unlikely to find a decent position at one unless your dad happens to be the editor. And in today&#039;s politically correct world you can&#039;t really write what you truly think. You&#039;re conditioned to please the editor and follow the drill. A lot of reporters are forced to write stuff that totally runs against their grain for a living. Not too healthy for a self-esteem, is it? And journalism is a cut above majors like sociology, psychology, minority studies, humanities, human services, history, anthropology, philosophy, fine/liberal arts, music, English Lit, etc... If you spend 1000&#039;s of dollars and your time to get one of those majors you&#039;d better hope that you&#039;ve got a connection who can get you a job in government. Otherwise there&#039;s a 90% chance you&#039;re screwed and will be working alongside the fry cook at JITB for $15/hr.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s take a journalism major, for instance. How much is that worth in the US economy today? Chime in, CWD reporters! You are probably pretty lucky you landed a job at CWD and I bet you don&#8217;t make very much coin. You probably have to write for 5 or 6 different publications to make ends meet, doncha? Journalism used to be a decent major. But with all the newspapers dying and on shoestring budgets it&#8217;s unlikely to find a decent position at one unless your dad happens to be the editor. And in today&#8217;s politically correct world you can&#8217;t really write what you truly think. You&#8217;re conditioned to please the editor and follow the drill. A lot of reporters are forced to write stuff that totally runs against their grain for a living. Not too healthy for a self-esteem, is it? And journalism is a cut above majors like sociology, psychology, minority studies, humanities, human services, history, anthropology, philosophy, fine/liberal arts, music, English Lit, etc&#8230; If you spend 1000&#8217;s of dollars and your time to get one of those majors you&#8217;d better hope that you&#8217;ve got a connection who can get you a job in government. Otherwise there&#8217;s a 90% chance you&#8217;re screwed and will be working alongside the fry cook at JITB for $15/hr.</p>
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		By: Timberrrrrr......		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/12/08/minimum-wage-debate-history-and-examples/#comment-104578</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timberrrrrr......]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2014 02:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s think about this for a minute, friends. There are thousands and thousands of college grads who spent 4 years and 1000&#039;s of dollars to earn a degree. Most are heavily in debt. About half the college degrees are near worthless in the employment markets when it comes to earning power. Yes, 50%. Those people will be working for MAYBE $20/hr. and consider themselves lucky to have a job. Now they want to give some guy with a 9th grade education (or less) who shakes the fry basket at Mickey Dee&#039;s a guaranteed $15/hr., only a $5/hr. differential from the guy who graduated from college. Do you think that&#039;s fair? College is supposed to prepare young people for an occupation. Do you think people will continue to go to the trouble and expense to get a higher education when they guy bussing tables or buffing chrome at the Ajax Car Wash will make practically as much as he does? Would you? This nation has jumped the shark in SO many ways. They&#039;ve screwed us seven ways to Sunday. All the decent jobs for the common people have been shipped overseas. And whatever jobs are left over they&#039;ve imported slave labor from down south to work them. Even the hi-tech jobs are going to the Indian and Asian foreigners who work at much lower wages. None of this will end well. None of it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s think about this for a minute, friends. There are thousands and thousands of college grads who spent 4 years and 1000&#8217;s of dollars to earn a degree. Most are heavily in debt. About half the college degrees are near worthless in the employment markets when it comes to earning power. Yes, 50%. Those people will be working for MAYBE $20/hr. and consider themselves lucky to have a job. Now they want to give some guy with a 9th grade education (or less) who shakes the fry basket at Mickey Dee&#8217;s a guaranteed $15/hr., only a $5/hr. differential from the guy who graduated from college. Do you think that&#8217;s fair? College is supposed to prepare young people for an occupation. Do you think people will continue to go to the trouble and expense to get a higher education when they guy bussing tables or buffing chrome at the Ajax Car Wash will make practically as much as he does? Would you? This nation has jumped the shark in SO many ways. They&#8217;ve screwed us seven ways to Sunday. All the decent jobs for the common people have been shipped overseas. And whatever jobs are left over they&#8217;ve imported slave labor from down south to work them. Even the hi-tech jobs are going to the Indian and Asian foreigners who work at much lower wages. None of this will end well. None of it.</p>
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