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	Comments on: Gov. Brown’s 50% renewable goal a tough target	</title>
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		By: Dyspeptic		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2015/01/06/gov-browns-50-renewable-goal-a-tough-target/#comment-107714</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dyspeptic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2015 22:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We don&#039;t need alternative reality energy to solve this problem. All we need is love. That&#039;s right, gimme an L, gimme an O, gimme a V, gimme an E baby! 

If everyone in the state could just hold hands, lean to the left and sing &quot;All You Need Is Love&quot; we could solve all of our problems, like really man. Pretty groovy idea huh?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t need alternative reality energy to solve this problem. All we need is love. That&#8217;s right, gimme an L, gimme an O, gimme a V, gimme an E baby! </p>
<p>If everyone in the state could just hold hands, lean to the left and sing &#8220;All You Need Is Love&#8221; we could solve all of our problems, like really man. Pretty groovy idea huh?</p>
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		By: Ted "Patriot" Steele		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2015/01/06/gov-browns-50-renewable-goal-a-tough-target/#comment-107645</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted "Patriot" Steele]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2015 04:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2015/01/06/gov-browns-50-renewable-goal-a-tough-target/#comment-107603&quot;&gt;vonborks&lt;/a&gt;.

I wonder if Vonborks knows Dr. VanNostrom? 

I love the Doomerasphere.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2015/01/06/gov-browns-50-renewable-goal-a-tough-target/#comment-107603">vonborks</a>.</p>
<p>I wonder if Vonborks knows Dr. VanNostrom? </p>
<p>I love the Doomerasphere.</p>
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		By: Ulysses Uhaul		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2015/01/06/gov-browns-50-renewable-goal-a-tough-target/#comment-107622</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ulysses Uhaul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2015 23:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A philosopher doomer....just what we need....resigned to futility while waiting for financial redistribution.....for the enviroment and the better good.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A philosopher doomer&#8230;.just what we need&#8230;.resigned to futility while waiting for financial redistribution&#8230;..for the enviroment and the better good.</p>
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		By: vonborks		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2015/01/06/gov-browns-50-renewable-goal-a-tough-target/#comment-107603</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vonborks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2015 19:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I’m thinking that maybe the time has come for us to just stand back and watch the chaos develop, and it will happen sooner than later. Out of chaos common sense will prevail over nonsense, because the will to survive in the real world is greater than idyllic wishful thinking for a Garden of Eden…]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m thinking that maybe the time has come for us to just stand back and watch the chaos develop, and it will happen sooner than later. Out of chaos common sense will prevail over nonsense, because the will to survive in the real world is greater than idyllic wishful thinking for a Garden of Eden…</p>
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		By: Sean		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2015/01/06/gov-browns-50-renewable-goal-a-tough-target/#comment-107598</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2015 17:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The state of California is quickly hollowing out its middle class and devolving into a gentry and servant/peasant class structure.  The rich liberals that support the campaigns of the Democratic incumbents will draw subsidies to install solar panels and sell very expensive electricity back to the PGE and SC Edison who will pass those higher costs onto the less well off inland.  They will get subsidies for their Teslas and charging stations around the state while the poor slob working in the Central Valley will pay increased prices for &quot;low carbon&quot; fuel in his 15 year old truck. 
A healthy middle class has little advantage for the Democrats in California. Better to have rich elites that need permission to operate and poor souls dependent on a government handout to live.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The state of California is quickly hollowing out its middle class and devolving into a gentry and servant/peasant class structure.  The rich liberals that support the campaigns of the Democratic incumbents will draw subsidies to install solar panels and sell very expensive electricity back to the PGE and SC Edison who will pass those higher costs onto the less well off inland.  They will get subsidies for their Teslas and charging stations around the state while the poor slob working in the Central Valley will pay increased prices for &#8220;low carbon&#8221; fuel in his 15 year old truck.<br />
A healthy middle class has little advantage for the Democrats in California. Better to have rich elites that need permission to operate and poor souls dependent on a government handout to live.</p>
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		By: Queeg		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2015/01/06/gov-browns-50-renewable-goal-a-tough-target/#comment-107555</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Queeg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2015 08:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This  subject is far more serious than pensions, but few posts......odd.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This  subject is far more serious than pensions, but few posts&#8230;&#8230;odd.</p>
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		By: Wayne Lusvardi		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2015/01/06/gov-browns-50-renewable-goal-a-tough-target/#comment-107548</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wayne Lusvardi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2015 07:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Stay tuned for Part 2 of this article wherein I discuss some of your comments.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stay tuned for Part 2 of this article wherein I discuss some of your comments.</p>
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		By: Bill Gore		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2015/01/06/gov-browns-50-renewable-goal-a-tough-target/#comment-107529</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Gore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2015 04:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The solution is clear: CA will steal clean green renewable hydropower from WA, OR and ID simply by outbidding us for our own power. Since powerful California NIMBY&#039;s won&#039;t allow ANY substantial development of geothermal, wind or hydro, the best solution is to buy it from out of state and screw the residents of those states.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The solution is clear: CA will steal clean green renewable hydropower from WA, OR and ID simply by outbidding us for our own power. Since powerful California NIMBY&#8217;s won&#8217;t allow ANY substantial development of geothermal, wind or hydro, the best solution is to buy it from out of state and screw the residents of those states.</p>
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		By: bob		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2015/01/06/gov-browns-50-renewable-goal-a-tough-target/#comment-107522</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2015 02:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Brownie and the DemoNcrats want gas priced in Colliefornia (as Ahnode call it) to be just as expensive as it is in Europe.

And they want all other sorts of energy as expensive as possible so the peons won&#039;t use as much.  (It won&#039;t effect our rulers and their minions, of course.)

They want us out of our cars and they will have all of us taking cr@ppy public transportatino and living in little cracker boxes in the cities instead of houses in the &#039;burbs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brownie and the DemoNcrats want gas priced in Colliefornia (as Ahnode call it) to be just as expensive as it is in Europe.</p>
<p>And they want all other sorts of energy as expensive as possible so the peons won&#8217;t use as much.  (It won&#8217;t effect our rulers and their minions, of course.)</p>
<p>They want us out of our cars and they will have all of us taking cr@ppy public transportatino and living in little cracker boxes in the cities instead of houses in the &#8216;burbs.</p>
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		By: John Galt		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2015/01/06/gov-browns-50-renewable-goal-a-tough-target/#comment-107513</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Galt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2015 01:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The recent low oil prices and corresponding low natural gas prices has the granola heads spinning! The marginal cost of generation will increase exponentially if the state goes from 20% to 50% mix. Residential customers of California IOU utilities (i.e., SDG&#038;E, SCE, PG&#038;E) already pay marginal retail rates in excess of $0.30/kWh, which include added increases due to covering several billion dollars that pay for an approximate 30% discount on tariffs for several million low income residential customers. If the wind and sun crowd get their way, regular bill paying residential customers will soon be paying about $1.00/kWh to run their air conditioner as costs to replace nuclear, coal and natural gas generation with unreliable large solar and wind turbines gets amazingly expensive per marginal unit of production. Price elasticity dynamics will operate and demand for &quot;grid&quot; power will drop quickly as everyone will literally install solar panels and use Honda generators at night. One gallon of fuel will generate about 12 kWh&#039;s (120k BTUs / 10k BTUs/kWh)in a portable backup generator. At $3.00/gallon, the marginal cost (excluding a couple of thousand for a generator) is about $0.25/kWh ($3.00/12), already beating California&#039;s IOU residential rates..... I understand Musk&#039;s Solar City and others may now sell large &quot;house size&quot; storage batteries to store excess solar production for use at night...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The recent low oil prices and corresponding low natural gas prices has the granola heads spinning! The marginal cost of generation will increase exponentially if the state goes from 20% to 50% mix. Residential customers of California IOU utilities (i.e., SDG&amp;E, SCE, PG&amp;E) already pay marginal retail rates in excess of $0.30/kWh, which include added increases due to covering several billion dollars that pay for an approximate 30% discount on tariffs for several million low income residential customers. If the wind and sun crowd get their way, regular bill paying residential customers will soon be paying about $1.00/kWh to run their air conditioner as costs to replace nuclear, coal and natural gas generation with unreliable large solar and wind turbines gets amazingly expensive per marginal unit of production. Price elasticity dynamics will operate and demand for &#8220;grid&#8221; power will drop quickly as everyone will literally install solar panels and use Honda generators at night. One gallon of fuel will generate about 12 kWh&#8217;s (120k BTUs / 10k BTUs/kWh)in a portable backup generator. At $3.00/gallon, the marginal cost (excluding a couple of thousand for a generator) is about $0.25/kWh ($3.00/12), already beating California&#8217;s IOU residential rates&#8230;.. I understand Musk&#8217;s Solar City and others may now sell large &#8220;house size&#8221; storage batteries to store excess solar production for use at night&#8230;</p>
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