Not true ecklstein, I totally believe in self defense because 1) I have a high regard for my own life and well-being 2) it prevents said heinous act of savagery from occurring in the first place. These debates always hinge on the extreme example: the super-psycho slasher like in the movies and as seen on TV. We are saturated with these images and scenarios but most of the real life random psychotic killings in this country are perpetrated by cops. Fact. Search YouTube and take a look at some real horror. Yet we celebrate these ‘heroes’ and grant them immunity to keep doing their ‘jobs’….To answer your question, these are the crimes where the perp lives and the victims don’t.

Yeah, like for psychotic cops who beat disabled people to death, then claim that the victim was resisting because he raised his hands during said beating. A death penalty televised execution would go a long way to deter such savagery. And who knows, there just might be a problem with the dosage or purity of the drugs used to end the killer coop’s life….

That’s goofy Eck—and— did you honestly read the poodles RURG?

THAT’s “spooky”—- I loved his use of homemade stats!

Well said Eck– we need an ultimate punishment—not for the every day murder (imagine that!) — but for the worst….

Are you ok Poodle?

Really? “I have never in my lfe seen a justice substitute the rule of law with their own personal view” Look around. It’s happening every day. We idiots have given these un-elected judges unprecedented powers. The system’s “off the rail”.

You would ( I hope) have a very different view if your loved one were the victim of such a psychopath. How the h… would you have any idea that the aggrieved loved ones feel? You read it in some article? A question to you, is there no crime/action that let’s the perp live (where the victims don’t)? You obviously don’t believe in the right of self defense either – since that doesn’t “constitute justice” or anything but your hated “revenge”.

The majority of the public today is against the DP, but not for the reasons you cite, but because of how random and arbitrary it has become in its application due to the view of the locally elected DA; and of course dirty DA’s and cops who hide evidence, which is well documented. You cannot have a system with a DP when you have dirty DA’s and cops. And whom are never held accountable, ever.

”…..we need an ultimate punishment with teeth for the ultimate depraved killings….

Did you learn that in the first case ever decided by the SCOTUS; Marbury v. Madison?