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	Comments on: Surf City to repeal bag ban	</title>
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		By: Stop the Bag Ban		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2015/01/24/surf-city-to-repeal-bag-ban/#comment-109339</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stop the Bag Ban]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2015 04:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is telling that very few of the major California papers picked up on the Huntington Beach bag ban repeal. After all, Huntington Beach seems to be the first city anywhere to repeal their bag ban (without being forced to by the voters). Isn&#039;t that newsworthy? Apparently it doesn&#039;t fit the main stream newspaper&#039;s agenda, so it doesn&#039;t get reported.

The bag ban is not about preserving our environment or addressing an issue (litter), because if you read it, you will find NOTHING in there that deals with controlling litter, picking up trash, further enforcement of litter laws, or capture devices to stop litter from entering the environment. No, the bill is ONLY about control. It is about controlling stores (and thus, the people) by banning one particular use of an item, and the people by imposing a 10 cent &quot;minimum fee&quot;. If bag banners were honest about wanting to solve a problem, they would propose a law that would do that. But this law is simply about controlling people. Apparently, either they can&#039;t make a good case to the people or the people are just too stupid to make the right choice, so they decide they must regulate us.

To answer Joseph&#039;s question, the stores collect and keep 100% of the &quot;minimum fee.&quot; (And you wonder why the big grocer&#039;s are on board for this???) They had to make it a minimum fee, because if it was a tax, it would require a public vote. They wanted to avoid the public vote at all costs, so call it a &quot;minimum fee&quot; instead. Any other items have &quot;minimum fees?&quot; None that I know of. What a slippery bunch these enviro-nazis are, and the willing politicians that go along with them! No one seems worried about the government fixing a &quot;minimum fee&quot; for something for the first time?

See our website for more information, and feel free to contact us and join us. We are a citizen group (not funded by any industry or company) that fights against the bag ban.

www.stopthebagban.com]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is telling that very few of the major California papers picked up on the Huntington Beach bag ban repeal. After all, Huntington Beach seems to be the first city anywhere to repeal their bag ban (without being forced to by the voters). Isn&#8217;t that newsworthy? Apparently it doesn&#8217;t fit the main stream newspaper&#8217;s agenda, so it doesn&#8217;t get reported.</p>
<p>The bag ban is not about preserving our environment or addressing an issue (litter), because if you read it, you will find NOTHING in there that deals with controlling litter, picking up trash, further enforcement of litter laws, or capture devices to stop litter from entering the environment. No, the bill is ONLY about control. It is about controlling stores (and thus, the people) by banning one particular use of an item, and the people by imposing a 10 cent &#8220;minimum fee&#8221;. If bag banners were honest about wanting to solve a problem, they would propose a law that would do that. But this law is simply about controlling people. Apparently, either they can&#8217;t make a good case to the people or the people are just too stupid to make the right choice, so they decide they must regulate us.</p>
<p>To answer Joseph&#8217;s question, the stores collect and keep 100% of the &#8220;minimum fee.&#8221; (And you wonder why the big grocer&#8217;s are on board for this???) They had to make it a minimum fee, because if it was a tax, it would require a public vote. They wanted to avoid the public vote at all costs, so call it a &#8220;minimum fee&#8221; instead. Any other items have &#8220;minimum fees?&#8221; None that I know of. What a slippery bunch these enviro-nazis are, and the willing politicians that go along with them! No one seems worried about the government fixing a &#8220;minimum fee&#8221; for something for the first time?</p>
<p>See our website for more information, and feel free to contact us and join us. We are a citizen group (not funded by any industry or company) that fights against the bag ban.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stopthebagban.com" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.stopthebagban.com</a></p>
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		By: Joseph		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2015/01/24/surf-city-to-repeal-bag-ban/#comment-108776</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joseph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2015 19:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Germs in reusable grocery bags are not the only problem. If the grocery stores could afford to be honest, they would acknowledge that they hate reusable bags. The problem is that a lot of people keep their bags in pest infested homes. Think cockroaches. Their roaches find a nice dark comfortable habitat in those reusable grocery bag, which often have moisture from the condensate from transported cold items and organic residue from produce. This  provides them with sustenance, and they then happily go about reproducing. And when the ecologically correct then bring those bags back into the grocery store and open them to the light, the roach riders scurry out... And find a place to hide. Like in some produce. Which someone puts into their ecologically correct reusable grocery bag.  In this manner, a lot of people unwittingly bring roaches into their previously uninfested home from the grocery store.

The grocery stores are constantly fighting a battle against pest infestation in their facilities. The advent of reusable grocery bags has made the battle immeasurably more difficult.

Also, even if the ban on plastic bags is lifted, we can rest assured that the 10 cent fee for bags will remain. (I have never succeeded in getting anyone in a store to acknowledge whether the store or the state gets the dime. I suspect the government is the beneficiary.) Governments have an enduring affection for tax revenue, so they are unlikely to relinquish their grip on your dime..

And maybe they will charge 20 cents for the ecologically incorrect plastic bag and only a dime for the paper ones.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Germs in reusable grocery bags are not the only problem. If the grocery stores could afford to be honest, they would acknowledge that they hate reusable bags. The problem is that a lot of people keep their bags in pest infested homes. Think cockroaches. Their roaches find a nice dark comfortable habitat in those reusable grocery bag, which often have moisture from the condensate from transported cold items and organic residue from produce. This  provides them with sustenance, and they then happily go about reproducing. And when the ecologically correct then bring those bags back into the grocery store and open them to the light, the roach riders scurry out&#8230; And find a place to hide. Like in some produce. Which someone puts into their ecologically correct reusable grocery bag.  In this manner, a lot of people unwittingly bring roaches into their previously uninfested home from the grocery store.</p>
<p>The grocery stores are constantly fighting a battle against pest infestation in their facilities. The advent of reusable grocery bags has made the battle immeasurably more difficult.</p>
<p>Also, even if the ban on plastic bags is lifted, we can rest assured that the 10 cent fee for bags will remain. (I have never succeeded in getting anyone in a store to acknowledge whether the store or the state gets the dime. I suspect the government is the beneficiary.) Governments have an enduring affection for tax revenue, so they are unlikely to relinquish their grip on your dime..</p>
<p>And maybe they will charge 20 cents for the ecologically incorrect plastic bag and only a dime for the paper ones.</p>
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		By: eck		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2015/01/24/surf-city-to-repeal-bag-ban/#comment-108726</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2015 02:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OMG!! Something sensible from some elected &quot;representatives&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG!! Something sensible from some elected &#8220;representatives&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Donkey		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2015/01/24/surf-city-to-repeal-bag-ban/#comment-108711</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donkey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2015 22:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2015/01/24/surf-city-to-repeal-bag-ban/#comment-108710&quot;&gt;Donkey&lt;/a&gt;.

Love the cartoon John!!  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2015/01/24/surf-city-to-repeal-bag-ban/#comment-108710">Donkey</a>.</p>
<p>Love the cartoon John!!  🙂</p>
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		By: Donkey		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2015/01/24/surf-city-to-repeal-bag-ban/#comment-108710</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donkey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2015 22:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The RAGWUS feeders know that sales have gone down from people choosing not to shop in bag free cities. Only the eco-nuts want bag bans, the mettlesome little doomers of whine!!  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The RAGWUS feeders know that sales have gone down from people choosing not to shop in bag free cities. Only the eco-nuts want bag bans, the mettlesome little doomers of whine!!  🙂</p>
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