You’re right but when the laws are being broken by manipulations of the systems then to who are you speaking. Bribery, fraud, communities on record of not being in compliance, and when caught refunding millions of dollars. Take the profit out of any system and it goes away. That’s exactly what’s happening when cities are held to a standard stated in the Vehicle Code. The use of these device has never been about safety and always a money grab. Spend a little time investigating the subject, it all of public record. Do you really think profit should be the motive to issue tickets making crooks out of our police departments and judicial systems, because that’s whats happened.

Video compression and pixels are so easy to manipulate. Stop lights in a video manipulation is one of the easiest. Want a yellow light to appear red. Click, Click It takes second to change an amber light and make it appear red. Snitch tickets sent in the mail by local police departments, cost incentive clauses in contracts, bribery, manipulation of amber light times, greed is good in the private public government sector. These tickets are legal evidence in spite of the industries reputation. Give me a break..

Guilty until proven innocent. Not the American way.

Money Grab. As part of DOJ investigation even manufacture warns not to trust video as video compression effects timing. It’s a money grab and officers of a manufacturer was found guilty of bribery and are going to jail. You must work for one of the agencies who profit or whose job depends on their continue use.

They are not successful all over Europe. Did you at least look at the information we posted below on how intersections can be made much safer with proper engineering?

Why is it that red light and speed cameras are so successful all over Europe?
Hit the traffic scofflaws where it hurts them most – in their wallets!
Herman Pfauter

You are missing the point. These red light cameras often do not function properly and tickets are sent to people who are innocent and did NOT, in fact, break the law. After the Redflex bribery scandal, a local CHP officer who routinely testifies in court, gave a news interview stating that the cameras at some intersections erroneously flash thinking there is a violation when there is not up to 84% of the time. See e.g. recent Rekte case proving yellow light duration (statutory duty to warn of impending red) on data bar was erroneous–shorter than computer time reported. The issue brought up time and again in the case law is the “going through the motions” lack of any semblance of due process that takes place in Superior Court trials. the second hand testimony of the officer who presents the video/still photos with databar is admitted as evidence. Very little cross examination is generally allowed. And the judge bangs his gavel and says “Next.” The legal presumption of the cameras being foolproof with no opportunity to cross examine the camera operator about how the error occurred leaves the innocent driver effectively presumed guilty until he proves his/her innocence–which is virtually impossible to do under the circumstances.

We found that when West Hollywood increased their yellow times by a mere 0.3 second their violations dropped by 40% to 70% depending on the intersection. In Fremont, CA Caltrans increased the yellow time at one intersection by 0.7 second and violations went down 78% immediately. That decrease has held for over 3 years proving that drivers do not adjust to the longer time. In Loma Linda, CA a 1.0 second increase in the yellow time lead to a 92% reduction in violations. The issue about red light cameras is one of science, specifically physics, not opinion. The science tells us that red light cameras do not improve safety, may make our roadways less safe by causing drivers to over react, take millions of dollars out of our economy for no reason, and create a perverse incentive for cities not to fix the deficient engineering. All good reasons this bill was introduced to stop new camera installations and require cities to prove that they have improved safety.