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	Comments on: CA Democratic Convention: Marginalized group challenges party to stand for &#8220;health choice&#8221;	</title>
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		By: Earl		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2015/05/17/ca-democratic-convention-marginalized-group-challenges-party-stand-health-choice/#comment-116712</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Earl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2015 01:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2015/05/17/ca-democratic-convention-marginalized-group-challenges-party-stand-health-choice/#comment-116679&quot;&gt;SkippingDog&lt;/a&gt;.

Pleessssse
Check out 180movie.com.  &quot; it&#039;s only the fetus&#039;; then it was only the Jews.... Is that the world you want to live in?  I&#039;m glad my Mom didn&#039;t consider me just a fetus. How about you?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2015/05/17/ca-democratic-convention-marginalized-group-challenges-party-stand-health-choice/#comment-116679">SkippingDog</a>.</p>
<p>Pleessssse<br />
Check out 180movie.com.  &#8221; it&#8217;s only the fetus&#8217;; then it was only the Jews&#8230;. Is that the world you want to live in?  I&#8217;m glad my Mom didn&#8217;t consider me just a fetus. How about you?</p>
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		By: SkippingDog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SkippingDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2015 05:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2015/05/17/ca-democratic-convention-marginalized-group-challenges-party-stand-health-choice/#comment-116655&quot;&gt;real American&lt;/a&gt;.

Abortion harm is limited to the aborted fetus. Communicable diseases don&#039;t have any such inherent limitations.  It&#039;s fine with me if you don&#039;t vaccinate your kid, just don&#039;t expect him/her to be welcomed at a school with other kids who might become the true victims of your &quot;choice.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2015/05/17/ca-democratic-convention-marginalized-group-challenges-party-stand-health-choice/#comment-116655">real American</a>.</p>
<p>Abortion harm is limited to the aborted fetus. Communicable diseases don&#8217;t have any such inherent limitations.  It&#8217;s fine with me if you don&#8217;t vaccinate your kid, just don&#8217;t expect him/her to be welcomed at a school with other kids who might become the true victims of your &#8220;choice.&#8221;</p>
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		By: real American		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[real American]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2015 20:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[...so pro-choice apparently only applies to abortions, not vaccines]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;so pro-choice apparently only applies to abortions, not vaccines</p>
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		By: Tim Lundeen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Lundeen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2015 19:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2015/05/17/ca-democratic-convention-marginalized-group-challenges-party-stand-health-choice/#comment-116640&quot;&gt;Puuuuhlease&lt;/a&gt;.

Actually, medical history shows that over 95% of the reduction in child mortality since 1900 happened BEFORE vaccination for all of the current vaccine schedule Please read Suzanne Humphries&#039;s book -- she is an MD, a board-certified nephrologist, who started researching vaccines when she saw her kidney patients get injured by them. Her book, Dissolving Illusions, is a superb history and overview of the risks/benefits.

The United States is ranked 53rd among developed nations in terms of infant mortality. Ours is about 6.17 per thousand, and we give 27 doses of vaccines to infants. The countries that give only 12 doses to infants have an average infant mortality of about 3 per thousand. If we reduced our schedule to only 12, we might well save 12,000 infant lives per year -- this dwarfs the infant mortality rates before vaccines were introduce. See http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3170075/figure/fig1-0960327111407644/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2015/05/17/ca-democratic-convention-marginalized-group-challenges-party-stand-health-choice/#comment-116640">Puuuuhlease</a>.</p>
<p>Actually, medical history shows that over 95% of the reduction in child mortality since 1900 happened BEFORE vaccination for all of the current vaccine schedule Please read Suzanne Humphries&#8217;s book &#8212; she is an MD, a board-certified nephrologist, who started researching vaccines when she saw her kidney patients get injured by them. Her book, Dissolving Illusions, is a superb history and overview of the risks/benefits.</p>
<p>The United States is ranked 53rd among developed nations in terms of infant mortality. Ours is about 6.17 per thousand, and we give 27 doses of vaccines to infants. The countries that give only 12 doses to infants have an average infant mortality of about 3 per thousand. If we reduced our schedule to only 12, we might well save 12,000 infant lives per year &#8212; this dwarfs the infant mortality rates before vaccines were introduce. See <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3170075/figure/fig1-0960327111407644/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3170075/figure/fig1-0960327111407644/</a></p>
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		By: Tom Harper		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Harper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2015 12:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Your body your choice, and parents have rights.

Every medical procedure or intervention has risk, and parents should be allowed to choose based on their family history, personal genetics, etc.

I am also tired of hearing, the &quot;science says x&quot;.  I have found that is what is said by the people who have done the least amount of actual research.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your body your choice, and parents have rights.</p>
<p>Every medical procedure or intervention has risk, and parents should be allowed to choose based on their family history, personal genetics, etc.</p>
<p>I am also tired of hearing, the &#8220;science says x&#8221;.  I have found that is what is said by the people who have done the least amount of actual research.</p>
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		By: Noelle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Noelle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2015 08:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2015/05/17/ca-democratic-convention-marginalized-group-challenges-party-stand-health-choice/#comment-116637&quot;&gt;Joe&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you, Joe. It was a tough day. But the truth is on our side and I will keep speaking it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2015/05/17/ca-democratic-convention-marginalized-group-challenges-party-stand-health-choice/#comment-116637">Joe</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you, Joe. It was a tough day. But the truth is on our side and I will keep speaking it.</p>
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		By: Aaron		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2015 06:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2015/05/17/ca-democratic-convention-marginalized-group-challenges-party-stand-health-choice/#comment-116640&quot;&gt;Puuuuhlease&lt;/a&gt;.

Measles killed like 1-100k, and that was 50 years ago. I think you&#039;ll be fine. You&#039;ll most likely not die from the vaccine either, but why don&#039;t I get choice? 

What if you like your kids chances vs the measles, instead of rolling the dice on vaccines? What if you don&#039;t like the idea of no Pharma liability? If my kid gets sick, I can cure that 99.9% of the time.... if vaccines harm them, there is no product liability. Just a kangaroo court where death is capped at $250k. When I use a product, I want some consumer protection, there is little to none here. Thats an issue for me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2015/05/17/ca-democratic-convention-marginalized-group-challenges-party-stand-health-choice/#comment-116640">Puuuuhlease</a>.</p>
<p>Measles killed like 1-100k, and that was 50 years ago. I think you&#8217;ll be fine. You&#8217;ll most likely not die from the vaccine either, but why don&#8217;t I get choice? </p>
<p>What if you like your kids chances vs the measles, instead of rolling the dice on vaccines? What if you don&#8217;t like the idea of no Pharma liability? If my kid gets sick, I can cure that 99.9% of the time&#8230;. if vaccines harm them, there is no product liability. Just a kangaroo court where death is capped at $250k. When I use a product, I want some consumer protection, there is little to none here. Thats an issue for me.</p>
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		By: Aaron		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2015 06:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2015/05/17/ca-democratic-convention-marginalized-group-challenges-party-stand-health-choice/#comment-116639&quot;&gt;Puuuuhhhlease&lt;/a&gt;.

Its discrimination if my kid can&#039;t go to school because I don&#039;t vaccinate for Hep B, but kids who ACTUALLY have Hep B are allowed admission. Please explain that one to me, and explain how that isn&#039;t discrimination. 

And how is someone who isn&#039;t vaccinated for whooping cough a bigger risk? The acellular vaccine only prevents symptoms. You can still get the bacteria and spread it while vaccinated. &quot;Herd immunity&quot; has no impact on whooping cough. http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm376937.htm
http://www.cdc.gov/pertussis/about/faqs.html

#science #outrightlies]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2015/05/17/ca-democratic-convention-marginalized-group-challenges-party-stand-health-choice/#comment-116639">Puuuuhhhlease</a>.</p>
<p>Its discrimination if my kid can&#8217;t go to school because I don&#8217;t vaccinate for Hep B, but kids who ACTUALLY have Hep B are allowed admission. Please explain that one to me, and explain how that isn&#8217;t discrimination. </p>
<p>And how is someone who isn&#8217;t vaccinated for whooping cough a bigger risk? The acellular vaccine only prevents symptoms. You can still get the bacteria and spread it while vaccinated. &#8220;Herd immunity&#8221; has no impact on whooping cough. <a href="http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm376937.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm376937.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://www.cdc.gov/pertussis/about/faqs.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.cdc.gov/pertussis/about/faqs.html</a></p>
<p>#science #outrightlies</p>
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		By: Carson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2015 05:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m an ex-vaxxer. I vaccinated my son. I vaccinated myself until I was injured at 49. Did my research on vaccines. Now I&#039;m an ex-vaxxer who will vaccinate again once they&#039;re made safer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an ex-vaxxer. I vaccinated my son. I vaccinated myself until I was injured at 49. Did my research on vaccines. Now I&#8217;m an ex-vaxxer who will vaccinate again once they&#8217;re made safer.</p>
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		By: Puuuuhlease		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Puuuuhlease]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2015 05:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2015/05/17/ca-democratic-convention-marginalized-group-challenges-party-stand-health-choice/#comment-116609&quot;&gt;Earl&lt;/a&gt;.

More kids die from the vaccine than the actual disease? If that&#039;s true, Earl, it&#039;s BECAUSE of vaccination.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2015/05/17/ca-democratic-convention-marginalized-group-challenges-party-stand-health-choice/#comment-116609">Earl</a>.</p>
<p>More kids die from the vaccine than the actual disease? If that&#8217;s true, Earl, it&#8217;s BECAUSE of vaccination.</p>
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