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		By: Ken		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2015 08:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[San Francisco is already a glaring symbol of income inequality. It also is not a shadow of its former magnificent self. And the natural beauty? That has nothing to do with the new hordes transmogrifying all they touch. The beauty is eternal. That&#039;s not what we are talking about here. When the next bust comes the Newbees are going to be sucking air in this once quite lovely provincial city by the bay, my much loved home town, where everyone once knew everyone..The next bust won&#039;t be pretty. SF is now living an illusion. Good luck. At least we know the beauty will survive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>San Francisco is already a glaring symbol of income inequality. It also is not a shadow of its former magnificent self. And the natural beauty? That has nothing to do with the new hordes transmogrifying all they touch. The beauty is eternal. That&#8217;s not what we are talking about here. When the next bust comes the Newbees are going to be sucking air in this once quite lovely provincial city by the bay, my much loved home town, where everyone once knew everyone..The next bust won&#8217;t be pretty. SF is now living an illusion. Good luck. At least we know the beauty will survive.</p>
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		By: Ulysses Uhaul		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2015/08/07/new-fee-push-s-f-housing-costs-even-higher/#comment-117678</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ulysses Uhaul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2015 04:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2015/08/07/new-fee-push-s-f-housing-costs-even-higher/#comment-117673&quot;&gt;Richard Rider&lt;/a&gt;.

Creating Utopia is expensive?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2015/08/07/new-fee-push-s-f-housing-costs-even-higher/#comment-117673">Richard Rider</a>.</p>
<p>Creating Utopia is expensive?</p>
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		By: Richard Rider		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Rider]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2015 23:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2015/08/07/new-fee-push-s-f-housing-costs-even-higher/#comment-117666&quot;&gt;mikey&lt;/a&gt;.

Actually, it&#039;s a win-win for existing homeowners.  If fewer new homes are built, then the existing home prices will go even higher.  For the &quot;homesteaders,&quot; it&#039;s gold.  Especially if they don&#039;t have children -- a common situation in San Francisco.

It&#039;s the ultimate &quot;me&quot; bill.  Pure selfishness.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2015/08/07/new-fee-push-s-f-housing-costs-even-higher/#comment-117666">mikey</a>.</p>
<p>Actually, it&#8217;s a win-win for existing homeowners.  If fewer new homes are built, then the existing home prices will go even higher.  For the &#8220;homesteaders,&#8221; it&#8217;s gold.  Especially if they don&#8217;t have children &#8212; a common situation in San Francisco.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the ultimate &#8220;me&#8221; bill.  Pure selfishness.</p>
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		By: Richard Rider		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Rider]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2015 23:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2015/08/07/new-fee-push-s-f-housing-costs-even-higher/#comment-117670&quot;&gt;Ultrawoman&lt;/a&gt;.

Solid point.  Any rational review of per passenger mile costs indicates some form of transit (buses, Uber, jitneys, etc.) that uses the existing roads is FAR more cost effective than mass transit (a.k.a. rail).  

Moreover, rail is forever -- it&#039;s not flexible once the capital costs are sunk.   

To make such an expensive, inefficient, inflexible outlay in this constantly changing tech age is madness.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2015/08/07/new-fee-push-s-f-housing-costs-even-higher/#comment-117670">Ultrawoman</a>.</p>
<p>Solid point.  Any rational review of per passenger mile costs indicates some form of transit (buses, Uber, jitneys, etc.) that uses the existing roads is FAR more cost effective than mass transit (a.k.a. rail).  </p>
<p>Moreover, rail is forever &#8212; it&#8217;s not flexible once the capital costs are sunk.   </p>
<p>To make such an expensive, inefficient, inflexible outlay in this constantly changing tech age is madness.</p>
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		By: Ultrawoman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ultrawoman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2015 22:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What will they do if driverless car technology makes all the mass transit projects obsolete in a very short time period?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What will they do if driverless car technology makes all the mass transit projects obsolete in a very short time period?</p>
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		By: mikey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mikey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2015 19:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s the people of SF that are doing it themselves. As in all things... People are going to charge what they can get someone to pay.

If people were not willing to buy or rent for those prices then they would HAVE to come down..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the people of SF that are doing it themselves. As in all things&#8230; People are going to charge what they can get someone to pay.</p>
<p>If people were not willing to buy or rent for those prices then they would HAVE to come down..</p>
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		By: JimmyDeeOC		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JimmyDeeOC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2015 18:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2015/08/07/new-fee-push-s-f-housing-costs-even-higher/#comment-117662&quot;&gt;Ulysses Uhaul&lt;/a&gt;.

So Cal resident.  havent been up there in a few years, but have many, many times in the past.   Beautiful, expensive, never found it that filthy or dangerous.  (Less so than some big cities)

But I still HATE the place.......the sneering, smug, self-righteous uber-liberals that infest the place make me vomit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2015/08/07/new-fee-push-s-f-housing-costs-even-higher/#comment-117662">Ulysses Uhaul</a>.</p>
<p>So Cal resident.  havent been up there in a few years, but have many, many times in the past.   Beautiful, expensive, never found it that filthy or dangerous.  (Less so than some big cities)</p>
<p>But I still HATE the place&#8230;&#8230;.the sneering, smug, self-righteous uber-liberals that infest the place make me vomit.</p>
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		By: Fred Schnaubelt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fred Schnaubelt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2015 17:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Intentionally, or unintentionally this is just a clever way to force Blacks to leave San Francisco. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/262112/blacks-and-republicans-thomas-sowell]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intentionally, or unintentionally this is just a clever way to force Blacks to leave San Francisco. <a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/article/262112/blacks-and-republicans-thomas-sowell" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.nationalreview.com/article/262112/blacks-and-republicans-thomas-sowell</a></p>
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		By: Ulysses Uhaul		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ulysses Uhaul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2015/08/07/new-fee-push-s-f-housing-costs-even-higher/#comment-117659&quot;&gt;Richard Rider&lt;/a&gt;.

Richie hit it. SF is a toilet, filthy, dangerous for respectable visitors, expensive, run down, a dump....so there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2015/08/07/new-fee-push-s-f-housing-costs-even-higher/#comment-117659">Richard Rider</a>.</p>
<p>Richie hit it. SF is a toilet, filthy, dangerous for respectable visitors, expensive, run down, a dump&#8230;.so there.</p>
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		By: Richard Rider		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Rider]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2015 15:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Actually it IS delightful that Uber-liberals (yes, they DO like Uber) in SF are sticking it to themselves.  Or are they?

All the EXISTING homeowners will find their homes appreciating because of these additional housing fees put on the NEW homes and apartments.  All will get windfall profits upon sale, and likely won&#039;t pay more property taxes during the holding period (thanks to Prop 13, which liberals supposedly hate).

That being said, I take perverse delight in progressives making their cosmopolitan berg a &quot;gated&quot; community -- pricing homes and rents out of the reach of most people. Except, of course, those &quot;poor&quot; folks who win the lottery for heavily subsidized housing -- and then carefully remain poor forever (negative incentives to improve their earning power).

Screw the middle class.  San Franciscans want only the rich and the poor residing in their town.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually it IS delightful that Uber-liberals (yes, they DO like Uber) in SF are sticking it to themselves.  Or are they?</p>
<p>All the EXISTING homeowners will find their homes appreciating because of these additional housing fees put on the NEW homes and apartments.  All will get windfall profits upon sale, and likely won&#8217;t pay more property taxes during the holding period (thanks to Prop 13, which liberals supposedly hate).</p>
<p>That being said, I take perverse delight in progressives making their cosmopolitan berg a &#8220;gated&#8221; community &#8212; pricing homes and rents out of the reach of most people. Except, of course, those &#8220;poor&#8221; folks who win the lottery for heavily subsidized housing &#8212; and then carefully remain poor forever (negative incentives to improve their earning power).</p>
<p>Screw the middle class.  San Franciscans want only the rich and the poor residing in their town.</p>
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