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	Comments on: UCLA studies add up to grim picture of CA housing costs	</title>
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		By: Rex the Wonder Dog!		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex the Wonder Dog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2015 18:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2015/10/03/ucla-studies-add-grim-picture-ca-housing-costs/#comment-118569&quot;&gt;Richard Rider&lt;/a&gt;.

Most people do not want gov &quot;programs&quot;, they want a job. A decent job that can pay the rent and buy the food. CA politicians do not seem to understand that. Instead they spend $$$ on infective, terrible programs with cost/benefit factors that are ridiculous. The EDD spends $5 for every ONE dollar they give out in benefits. That ratio/ROI  in the real world would be the end of you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2015/10/03/ucla-studies-add-grim-picture-ca-housing-costs/#comment-118569">Richard Rider</a>.</p>
<p>Most people do not want gov &#8220;programs&#8221;, they want a job. A decent job that can pay the rent and buy the food. CA politicians do not seem to understand that. Instead they spend $$$ on infective, terrible programs with cost/benefit factors that are ridiculous. The EDD spends $5 for every ONE dollar they give out in benefits. That ratio/ROI  in the real world would be the end of you.</p>
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		By: Rex the Wonder Dog!		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2015/10/03/ucla-studies-add-grim-picture-ca-housing-costs/#comment-118620</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex the Wonder Dog!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2015 18:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2015/10/03/ucla-studies-add-grim-picture-ca-housing-costs/#comment-118572&quot;&gt;Richard Rider&lt;/a&gt;.

“As of last year, the average pay of a full-teacher in California was more than $84,000, per data from Transparent California.”

&lt;b&gt;&quot;The data source is reasonably correct, but Chris Reed misinterprets “total compensation” as “pay.” So does the referenced LA TIMES article. Much has to do with using properly defined terminology.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;
The mean/average teacher SALARY in CA, according to the Sac Bee, is $69K, and I estimate benefits at $40K, total comp about $110K, but the contracted work year is only 37 weeks, and the contracted work week is only 36 hour. Good deal, and the pensions, while more modest than CalTURDS, are still a great deal. And there is also 100% bullet proof job security, unheard of in real life.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2015/10/03/ucla-studies-add-grim-picture-ca-housing-costs/#comment-118572">Richard Rider</a>.</p>
<p>“As of last year, the average pay of a full-teacher in California was more than $84,000, per data from Transparent California.”</p>
<p><b>&#8220;The data source is reasonably correct, but Chris Reed misinterprets “total compensation” as “pay.” So does the referenced LA TIMES article. Much has to do with using properly defined terminology.&#8221;</b><br />
The mean/average teacher SALARY in CA, according to the Sac Bee, is $69K, and I estimate benefits at $40K, total comp about $110K, but the contracted work year is only 37 weeks, and the contracted work week is only 36 hour. Good deal, and the pensions, while more modest than CalTURDS, are still a great deal. And there is also 100% bullet proof job security, unheard of in real life.</p>
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		By: californianative		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[californianative]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2015 01:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2015/10/03/ucla-studies-add-grim-picture-ca-housing-costs/#comment-118591&quot;&gt;californianative&lt;/a&gt;.

Californians, not Californian&#039;s. No possessive needed. Just wishful thinking...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2015/10/03/ucla-studies-add-grim-picture-ca-housing-costs/#comment-118591">californianative</a>.</p>
<p>Californians, not Californian&#8217;s. No possessive needed. Just wishful thinking&#8230;</p>
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		By: californianative		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[californianative]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2015 01:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2015/10/03/ucla-studies-add-grim-picture-ca-housing-costs/#comment-118581&quot;&gt;Bill Gore&lt;/a&gt;.

I also am one of those refugees, 1994, took 4 other native born Californian&#039;s with me. I was back in the Promised Land last month for a family wedding. I recognized the beautiful terrain ( a bit too dry per my memory) but I did not recognize the culture. In my mind I am stuck in the California of my youth, late 1960&#039;s through the 1980&#039;s.  Oh well, we are all adapting to our adopted state, at least we have water...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2015/10/03/ucla-studies-add-grim-picture-ca-housing-costs/#comment-118581">Bill Gore</a>.</p>
<p>I also am one of those refugees, 1994, took 4 other native born Californian&#8217;s with me. I was back in the Promised Land last month for a family wedding. I recognized the beautiful terrain ( a bit too dry per my memory) but I did not recognize the culture. In my mind I am stuck in the California of my youth, late 1960&#8217;s through the 1980&#8217;s.  Oh well, we are all adapting to our adopted state, at least we have water&#8230;</p>
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		By: Bill Gore		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Gore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2015 14:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2015/10/03/ucla-studies-add-grim-picture-ca-housing-costs/#comment-118579&quot;&gt;Richard Rider&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m one of those 3.7 million. I left in 2012 and haven&#039;t looked back (except for gloating on CalWatchdog). Oh, and I kept the entire state of CA as a business territory, though really, californians are a righteous pain in the ass to do business with....Anyway, you can&#039;t &#039;solve&#039; california&#039;s housing situation with more endless subdivisions. Driven around the LA basin lately? Yeah... thousands of square miles of ticky tack beige stucco. Not to mention the water. My solution: soviet style massive ugly apartment blocks, 4 families to a bathroom, ruled by gangs. All free. This will complete the orwellian sovietization of the golden state and give Barbara Boxer and Nancy Pelosi&#039;s army of domestic help an &#039;affordable&#039; place to live.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2015/10/03/ucla-studies-add-grim-picture-ca-housing-costs/#comment-118579">Richard Rider</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m one of those 3.7 million. I left in 2012 and haven&#8217;t looked back (except for gloating on CalWatchdog). Oh, and I kept the entire state of CA as a business territory, though really, californians are a righteous pain in the ass to do business with&#8230;.Anyway, you can&#8217;t &#8216;solve&#8217; california&#8217;s housing situation with more endless subdivisions. Driven around the LA basin lately? Yeah&#8230; thousands of square miles of ticky tack beige stucco. Not to mention the water. My solution: soviet style massive ugly apartment blocks, 4 families to a bathroom, ruled by gangs. All free. This will complete the orwellian sovietization of the golden state and give Barbara Boxer and Nancy Pelosi&#8217;s army of domestic help an &#8216;affordable&#8217; place to live.</p>
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		By: Richard Rider		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Rider]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2015 13:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2015/10/03/ucla-studies-add-grim-picture-ca-housing-costs/#comment-118576&quot;&gt;Bill Gore&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Demand outstrips supply&quot; in CA because we severely restrict supply -- and drive up the price of new housing dramatically with government regulations and taxes.  This is NOT the free market causing this problem.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2015/10/03/ucla-studies-add-grim-picture-ca-housing-costs/#comment-118576">Bill Gore</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Demand outstrips supply&#8221; in CA because we severely restrict supply &#8212; and drive up the price of new housing dramatically with government regulations and taxes.  This is NOT the free market causing this problem.</p>
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		By: Richard Rider		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Rider]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2015 13:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2015/10/03/ucla-studies-add-grim-picture-ca-housing-costs/#comment-118576&quot;&gt;Bill Gore&lt;/a&gt;.

CA may be a DESIRABLE place to live, but that doesn&#039;t mean people are MOVING here to live.  Quite the contrary.

Consider California’s net domestic migration (migration between states).  From 1992 through 2014, California lost a NET 3.7 million people to other states.  Net departures slowed in 2008 only because people couldn’t sell their homes.  But more people still leave each year -- in 2013 we lost 49,000. Again, note that these are NET losses.  Sadly, our policies have split up many California families.
https://twitter.com/SenTedCruz/status/464827967747526656/photo/1    
and      
http://riderrants.blogspot.com/2015/04/were-california-real-estate-prices.html

It’s likely that it’s not the welfare kings and queens departing.  They are primarily the young, the educated, the productive, the entrepreneurial, the ambitious, the wealthy (such as Tiger Woods) – and retirees seeking to make their nest-eggs provide more bang for the buck.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2015/10/03/ucla-studies-add-grim-picture-ca-housing-costs/#comment-118576">Bill Gore</a>.</p>
<p>CA may be a DESIRABLE place to live, but that doesn&#8217;t mean people are MOVING here to live.  Quite the contrary.</p>
<p>Consider California’s net domestic migration (migration between states).  From 1992 through 2014, California lost a NET 3.7 million people to other states.  Net departures slowed in 2008 only because people couldn’t sell their homes.  But more people still leave each year &#8212; in 2013 we lost 49,000. Again, note that these are NET losses.  Sadly, our policies have split up many California families.<br />
<a href="https://twitter.com/SenTedCruz/status/464827967747526656/photo/1" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/SenTedCruz/status/464827967747526656/photo/1</a><br />
and<br />
<a href="http://riderrants.blogspot.com/2015/04/were-california-real-estate-prices.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://riderrants.blogspot.com/2015/04/were-california-real-estate-prices.html</a></p>
<p>It’s likely that it’s not the welfare kings and queens departing.  They are primarily the young, the educated, the productive, the entrepreneurial, the ambitious, the wealthy (such as Tiger Woods) – and retirees seeking to make their nest-eggs provide more bang for the buck.</p>
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		By: bob		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2015 02:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;California’s politicians have finally made dealing with the state’s worst-in-the-nation poverty rate a priority. &lt;/i&gt;

Then I guarantee poverty in this state is about to get worse, at the very least relative to other states.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>California’s politicians have finally made dealing with the state’s worst-in-the-nation poverty rate a priority. </i></p>
<p>Then I guarantee poverty in this state is about to get worse, at the very least relative to other states.</p>
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		By: Bill Gore		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Gore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2015 01:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not wanting to sound callous, but SO WHAT? California is somehow deemed a desirable place to live (go figure..) hence demand outstrips supply. This situation could actually force illegal migrants to self-deport back to their more affordable and modest home countries. This would be a very good thing. Putting it another way, no one has a right to live anywhere they can&#039;t afford to. I would really love to have a big place on Martha&#039;s Vineyard, and I&#039;m a nice guy who would bring a lot of diversity to the area, but alas, I simply cannot afford it, and they don&#039;t offer Section 8 housing for beachside mansions (yet). So again: so what? Jettison the poor, push them out to Texas or New Orleans....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not wanting to sound callous, but SO WHAT? California is somehow deemed a desirable place to live (go figure..) hence demand outstrips supply. This situation could actually force illegal migrants to self-deport back to their more affordable and modest home countries. This would be a very good thing. Putting it another way, no one has a right to live anywhere they can&#8217;t afford to. I would really love to have a big place on Martha&#8217;s Vineyard, and I&#8217;m a nice guy who would bring a lot of diversity to the area, but alas, I simply cannot afford it, and they don&#8217;t offer Section 8 housing for beachside mansions (yet). So again: so what? Jettison the poor, push them out to Texas or New Orleans&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Richard Rider		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Rider]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2015 20:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2015/10/03/ucla-studies-add-grim-picture-ca-housing-costs/#comment-118572&quot;&gt;Richard Rider&lt;/a&gt;.

CORRECTION:  I said &quot;San Diego Unified School District.&quot;  I don&#039;t know about that district&#039;s reporting.  It&#039;s the CITY of San Diego that is the culprit in the example I mentioned.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2015/10/03/ucla-studies-add-grim-picture-ca-housing-costs/#comment-118572">Richard Rider</a>.</p>
<p>CORRECTION:  I said &#8220;San Diego Unified School District.&#8221;  I don&#8217;t know about that district&#8217;s reporting.  It&#8217;s the CITY of San Diego that is the culprit in the example I mentioned.</p>
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