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	Comments on: NOAA: Trash Island doesn&#8217;t exist	</title>
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		By: Karen Renfro		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karen Renfro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2020 21:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It doesn&#039;t matter whether the trash is floating on top of the water or around in it, it shouldn&#039;t be there.  We should clean it up.  And do what we can to prevent more without imposing severe hardships on people.  Doesn&#039;t take a rocket scientist to work this out.  

It would help if we all set aside our little prejudices and face reality.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter whether the trash is floating on top of the water or around in it, it shouldn&#8217;t be there.  We should clean it up.  And do what we can to prevent more without imposing severe hardships on people.  Doesn&#8217;t take a rocket scientist to work this out.  </p>
<p>It would help if we all set aside our little prejudices and face reality.</p>
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		By: Daniel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2020 21:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So that&#039;s why I can never actually find a photo of it anywhere.  I assumed I would find an aerial photo of this giant patch, but no, none to be found.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So that&#8217;s why I can never actually find a photo of it anywhere.  I assumed I would find an aerial photo of this giant patch, but no, none to be found.</p>
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		By: Standing Fast		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2016/04/18/noaa-trash-island-doesnt-least-not-like-think/#comment-121675</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Standing Fast]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2016 20:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, I&#039;m neither an eco-freak nor a granola-munching tree-hugger, although I must confess that trees are an especial favorite thing of mine because I do like to breathe air that has fresh oxygen in it,
And, I don&#039;t have to read about floating plastic islands to know they are out there because I have seen with my own eyes all kinds of plastic in every waterway I have ever visited.  Along with aluminum cans, bottles, waxed-cardboard containers, cellophane wrappers, cigarette wrappers, straws, and other unsightly evidence of progress.   
Since my last post I&#039;ve learned that the &quot;floating island&quot; story has been around for years and doesn&#039;t adequately describe what is going on.  Because the mass of debris moves with the currents and changes its appearance sometimes daily or hourly.
The main point here is that there is a problem that we have made and the sooner we start cleaning up this mess, the better.
I would like to think that people who love Liberty can also love Nature.  The two are hardly mutually-exclusive.
It would be a real attention-getter if Libertarians and Conservatives got together with nature-lovers who are already tackling the problem with volunteers and private non-profit organizations.  It would be a step in the right direction if the world could see a solution to an environmental crisis that doesn&#039;t involve force or coercion by government.
We might be able to make a few converts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m neither an eco-freak nor a granola-munching tree-hugger, although I must confess that trees are an especial favorite thing of mine because I do like to breathe air that has fresh oxygen in it,<br />
And, I don&#8217;t have to read about floating plastic islands to know they are out there because I have seen with my own eyes all kinds of plastic in every waterway I have ever visited.  Along with aluminum cans, bottles, waxed-cardboard containers, cellophane wrappers, cigarette wrappers, straws, and other unsightly evidence of progress.<br />
Since my last post I&#8217;ve learned that the &#8220;floating island&#8221; story has been around for years and doesn&#8217;t adequately describe what is going on.  Because the mass of debris moves with the currents and changes its appearance sometimes daily or hourly.<br />
The main point here is that there is a problem that we have made and the sooner we start cleaning up this mess, the better.<br />
I would like to think that people who love Liberty can also love Nature.  The two are hardly mutually-exclusive.<br />
It would be a real attention-getter if Libertarians and Conservatives got together with nature-lovers who are already tackling the problem with volunteers and private non-profit organizations.  It would be a step in the right direction if the world could see a solution to an environmental crisis that doesn&#8217;t involve force or coercion by government.<br />
We might be able to make a few converts.</p>
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		By: Spurwing Plover		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2016/04/18/noaa-trash-island-doesnt-least-not-like-think/#comment-121664</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spurwing Plover]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2016 22:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So who realy trusts c-BS News or the New York Slimes anymore as well as those various eco-freak groups(Greenpeace,Sierra Club,PETA or the rest of the granola munchers/tree huggers anyway?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So who realy trusts c-BS News or the New York Slimes anymore as well as those various eco-freak groups(Greenpeace,Sierra Club,PETA or the rest of the granola munchers/tree huggers anyway?</p>
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		By: Standing Fast		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Standing Fast]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2016 22:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2016/04/18/noaa-trash-island-doesnt-least-not-like-think/#comment-121615&quot;&gt;Grace_ia&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for your post.  Your points are well-taken-- I was around in the fifties and sixties throwing garbage everywhere.  But there was a &quot;Beautify America&quot; campaign launched by First Lady Ladybird Johnson, I think, that encouraged people to stop throwing trash everywhere and to clean up trashy places.  And, yes, it really has helped a lot.  But, there is still too much of it out in the natural world where it shouldn&#039;t be.  
And, although I agree with your point about everything being biodegradable eventually, the amount of time it takes most man-made things to biodegrade--longer than one person&#039;s lifetime-- means an increasing accumulation of trash over the long haul.  There will come a time when material consumption will reach a saturation point ecologically.
Just for the record, I do not subscribe to Progressivism, a global warming crisis, a climate change crisis, socialism, communism, liberalism or the Donald Trump world view.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2016/04/18/noaa-trash-island-doesnt-least-not-like-think/#comment-121615">Grace_ia</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for your post.  Your points are well-taken&#8211; I was around in the fifties and sixties throwing garbage everywhere.  But there was a &#8220;Beautify America&#8221; campaign launched by First Lady Ladybird Johnson, I think, that encouraged people to stop throwing trash everywhere and to clean up trashy places.  And, yes, it really has helped a lot.  But, there is still too much of it out in the natural world where it shouldn&#8217;t be.<br />
And, although I agree with your point about everything being biodegradable eventually, the amount of time it takes most man-made things to biodegrade&#8211;longer than one person&#8217;s lifetime&#8211; means an increasing accumulation of trash over the long haul.  There will come a time when material consumption will reach a saturation point ecologically.<br />
Just for the record, I do not subscribe to Progressivism, a global warming crisis, a climate change crisis, socialism, communism, liberalism or the Donald Trump world view.</p>
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		By: Grace_ia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grace_ia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2016 22:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good comments, Standing Fast.

I fully agree that we should clean up after ourselves - I believe we have been doing that since the 50&#039;s to such an extent that those who weren&#039;t alive then can&#039;t imagine the trash everywhere on our roadsides at that time.  We, as a society, promote and sometimes enforce recycling.  Are we perfect?  No, of course not and there is room for improvement, but I wonder how much our efforts will make a concrete improvement (the idea of diminishing returns comes to mind.) of our natural world.  

As for where do the broken-down components go and how do they affect our water and land, I need to remind us all that everything, &quot;every thing&quot;, that makes up the component material of plastic originally came from this earth.  It will degrade.  Some of the older compounds would take a ridiculous amount of time, but much of those have been replaced.  Again, not perfect, but what is?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good comments, Standing Fast.</p>
<p>I fully agree that we should clean up after ourselves &#8211; I believe we have been doing that since the 50&#8217;s to such an extent that those who weren&#8217;t alive then can&#8217;t imagine the trash everywhere on our roadsides at that time.  We, as a society, promote and sometimes enforce recycling.  Are we perfect?  No, of course not and there is room for improvement, but I wonder how much our efforts will make a concrete improvement (the idea of diminishing returns comes to mind.) of our natural world.  </p>
<p>As for where do the broken-down components go and how do they affect our water and land, I need to remind us all that everything, &#8220;every thing&#8221;, that makes up the component material of plastic originally came from this earth.  It will degrade.  Some of the older compounds would take a ridiculous amount of time, but much of those have been replaced.  Again, not perfect, but what is?</p>
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		By: Standing Fast		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Standing Fast]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2016 17:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2016/04/18/noaa-trash-island-doesnt-least-not-like-think/#comment-121606&quot;&gt;Grace_ia&lt;/a&gt;.

The truth will prevail where there are pains taken to bring it to light. -- George Washington

Thank you for posting your comments, reminding us of the junk people leave on the beaches and riverbanks of the world.  And, I agree with you about the problem being worldwide.  
But, if we the people of the United States just mind our own business and clean up after ourselves, and private non-profits tackle the junk out on the bounding main, other countries will get the message. 
Biodegradable plastics sound good, but what effect do the broken-down components have in the water and on the land?
If Common-Sense Americans weigh-in loudly on environmental issues, the government will be less likely to throw money at special-interest environmental groups.
We could be the voice of reason in this controversy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2016/04/18/noaa-trash-island-doesnt-least-not-like-think/#comment-121606">Grace_ia</a>.</p>
<p>The truth will prevail where there are pains taken to bring it to light. &#8212; George Washington</p>
<p>Thank you for posting your comments, reminding us of the junk people leave on the beaches and riverbanks of the world.  And, I agree with you about the problem being worldwide.<br />
But, if we the people of the United States just mind our own business and clean up after ourselves, and private non-profits tackle the junk out on the bounding main, other countries will get the message.<br />
Biodegradable plastics sound good, but what effect do the broken-down components have in the water and on the land?<br />
If Common-Sense Americans weigh-in loudly on environmental issues, the government will be less likely to throw money at special-interest environmental groups.<br />
We could be the voice of reason in this controversy.</p>
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		By: Grace_ia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grace_ia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2016 14:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Actually, much of the plastic in the ocean comes from things left on beaches and riverbanks by swimmers and hikers. 

This is unacceptable, but it is not confined to the North American continent.  Clean-up should not be only a U.S. burden. 

The overwhelming amount of plastic trash comes from storms and tsunamis that hit coastlines all over the world, and carry all kinds of materials back into the ocean.  Remember the pictures from 2010? 

Plastics are a part of the world.  Not something that is going to change, yet the formulas have changed to address the overall trash issue with more and more being bio-degradable.

This story of a &quot;trash island&quot; the size of Texas brings to the general populace a vision.  It is not an accurate picture  - not saying it is a good picture, but it is not this horror.  This has been blown out of proportion.  Then the answer is (as always) to throw money at environmentalists. gaaah!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, much of the plastic in the ocean comes from things left on beaches and riverbanks by swimmers and hikers. </p>
<p>This is unacceptable, but it is not confined to the North American continent.  Clean-up should not be only a U.S. burden. </p>
<p>The overwhelming amount of plastic trash comes from storms and tsunamis that hit coastlines all over the world, and carry all kinds of materials back into the ocean.  Remember the pictures from 2010? </p>
<p>Plastics are a part of the world.  Not something that is going to change, yet the formulas have changed to address the overall trash issue with more and more being bio-degradable.</p>
<p>This story of a &#8220;trash island&#8221; the size of Texas brings to the general populace a vision.  It is not an accurate picture  &#8211; not saying it is a good picture, but it is not this horror.  This has been blown out of proportion.  Then the answer is (as always) to throw money at environmentalists. gaaah!</p>
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		By: Standing Fast		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Standing Fast]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2016 20:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2016/04/18/noaa-trash-island-doesnt-least-not-like-think/#comment-121591&quot;&gt;Ted. Mentor to the doomed....Builder of the FUTURE!&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Wisdom is the Happiness of the People.&quot; 
Benjamin Franklin]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2016/04/18/noaa-trash-island-doesnt-least-not-like-think/#comment-121591">Ted. Mentor to the doomed&#8230;.Builder of the FUTURE!</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Wisdom is the Happiness of the People.&#8221;<br />
Benjamin Franklin</p>
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		By: Ted. Mentor to the doomed....Builder of the FUTURE!		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted. Mentor to the doomed....Builder of the FUTURE!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2016 15:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Standing Fast-- of course yo are 100% correct but whack jobs have hi jacked conservatism--- Fox News and Rush won&#039;t let any idea except far right nonsense seep in.....sorry man.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Standing Fast&#8211; of course yo are 100% correct but whack jobs have hi jacked conservatism&#8212; Fox News and Rush won&#8217;t let any idea except far right nonsense seep in&#8230;..sorry man.</p>
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