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		By: Ted Steele---- Accept no substitute!		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Steele---- Accept no substitute!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2017 05:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Comrades

Looks like the leftists are making you keep promises and contracts you made in exchange for consideration.....lol     what a concept!]]></description>
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<p>Looks like the leftists are making you keep promises and contracts you made in exchange for consideration&#8230;..lol     what a concept!</p>
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		By: SeeSaw		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2017/01/04/california-cities-facing-growing-pension-costs-new-year/#comment-123504</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SeeSaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2017 08:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2017/01/04/california-cities-facing-growing-pension-costs-new-year/#comment-123493&quot;&gt;Jim&lt;/a&gt;.

One with a $200,000 pension was management--most likely not in a union.   The average CalPERS pension is $36,000--that is what a union member would get.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2017/01/04/california-cities-facing-growing-pension-costs-new-year/#comment-123493">Jim</a>.</p>
<p>One with a $200,000 pension was management&#8211;most likely not in a union.   The average CalPERS pension is $36,000&#8211;that is what a union member would get.</p>
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		By: Jim		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2017 20:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2017/01/04/california-cities-facing-growing-pension-costs-new-year/#comment-123480&quot;&gt;Dude&lt;/a&gt;.

Frankly, this is the only fix.  The unions own the legislature who in turn grant the union wishes.  How many $200,000 pensions presently exist in your county, much less, the number who will retire within 5 years.  The CAO in EDC has around a $600,00 budget and 1800 employees (frankly small business size), makes over $200,000 and will retire with a number that big.  For most. of us that equals wealthy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2017/01/04/california-cities-facing-growing-pension-costs-new-year/#comment-123480">Dude</a>.</p>
<p>Frankly, this is the only fix.  The unions own the legislature who in turn grant the union wishes.  How many $200,000 pensions presently exist in your county, much less, the number who will retire within 5 years.  The CAO in EDC has around a $600,00 budget and 1800 employees (frankly small business size), makes over $200,000 and will retire with a number that big.  For most. of us that equals wealthy.</p>
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		By: Queeg		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2017/01/04/california-cities-facing-growing-pension-costs-new-year/#comment-123491</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Queeg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2017 19:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Comrades

You cannot tax your way to prosperity!

But they will try!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comrades</p>
<p>You cannot tax your way to prosperity!</p>
<p>But they will try!</p>
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		By: Balanced805		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2017/01/04/california-cities-facing-growing-pension-costs-new-year/#comment-123489</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Balanced805]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2017 17:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for the information.  What the many cities,districts, and boards across California need is information on how to convert to defined contribution program for new employees.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the information.  What the many cities,districts, and boards across California need is information on how to convert to defined contribution program for new employees.</p>
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		By: SeeSaw		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2017/01/04/california-cities-facing-growing-pension-costs-new-year/#comment-123486</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SeeSaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2017 07:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2017/01/04/california-cities-facing-growing-pension-costs-new-year/#comment-123480&quot;&gt;Dude&lt;/a&gt;.

Idiotic suggestion!  CalPERS was in existence 40 years before the advent of public-sector unions in CA.  Union membership is irrelevant to being a member of CalPERS.   The highest paid retirees were not union members when they were active workers.   Eliminate unions if you want--CalPERS will still be there and so will the workers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2017/01/04/california-cities-facing-growing-pension-costs-new-year/#comment-123480">Dude</a>.</p>
<p>Idiotic suggestion!  CalPERS was in existence 40 years before the advent of public-sector unions in CA.  Union membership is irrelevant to being a member of CalPERS.   The highest paid retirees were not union members when they were active workers.   Eliminate unions if you want&#8211;CalPERS will still be there and so will the workers.</p>
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		By: eck		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2017/01/04/california-cities-facing-growing-pension-costs-new-year/#comment-123484</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2017 03:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2017/01/04/california-cities-facing-growing-pension-costs-new-year/#comment-123474&quot;&gt;Ron&lt;/a&gt;.

All I can say Ron, is duh!  No-brainer stuff. We&#039;re doomed.  No way the leftists in charge will go away.  Get out of state, not necessarily now, but not too far in the future.  I will. It&#039;ll all collapse.  Guaranteed!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2017/01/04/california-cities-facing-growing-pension-costs-new-year/#comment-123474">Ron</a>.</p>
<p>All I can say Ron, is duh!  No-brainer stuff. We&#8217;re doomed.  No way the leftists in charge will go away.  Get out of state, not necessarily now, but not too far in the future.  I will. It&#8217;ll all collapse.  Guaranteed!</p>
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		By: Dude		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2017/01/04/california-cities-facing-growing-pension-costs-new-year/#comment-123480</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2017 01:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[CalPers, and SEIU have always known that there is no investment strategy that could perform well enough to satisfy their mafiaesqe greed. The only solution? Eliminate the unions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CalPers, and SEIU have always known that there is no investment strategy that could perform well enough to satisfy their mafiaesqe greed. The only solution? Eliminate the unions.</p>
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		By: JPR11		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2017/01/04/california-cities-facing-growing-pension-costs-new-year/#comment-123477</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JPR11]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2017 18:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[and Gov. Gray Davis, we thank you!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and Gov. Gray Davis, we thank you!</p>
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		By: Ron		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2017/01/04/california-cities-facing-growing-pension-costs-new-year/#comment-123474</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2017 16:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It’s the inmates running the pension Asylum that are loading up system with lucrative &quot;defined benefits&quot; packages for themselves.
 
The international business world is intelligent enough to know that DEFINED BENEFITS are financial disasters to any business, thus all businesses focus on the known, i.e., defined CONTRIBUTIONS alone.
 
Stealing from the young who silently shoulder the costs and bear the burden of unfunded promises of these programs to enrich the old seems to describe the Governments expansion of entitlement benefits and other government services, along with the taxes young people will have to pay to support them, mostly to subsidize older Americans.
 
The inmates know that debt for our future generations buys votes.  Over the decades, the proven “concept’ practiced by voters is to defer as much financial responsibilities as possible from our current financial responsibilities to future generations, that have no votes on the subject.
 
Currently, it’s the future generations that will have the responsibilities to pay for the unsustainable pension programs, other boondoggle projects, and added inefficiencies built into our government.  Simply stated, if we cannot afford it today, pass it off to the future generations to minimize any impact on our current lifestyles.
 
Virtually all elected officials are heavily financed by unions which are focused on entitlements for their current members.  Thus, no changes can be expected in the foreseeable future for elected officials to ever abandon their source of votes.

It’s unfortunate that those future generations, unable to vote today, will bear the costs of many enacted entitlements and boondoggle projects.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s the inmates running the pension Asylum that are loading up system with lucrative &#8220;defined benefits&#8221; packages for themselves.</p>
<p>The international business world is intelligent enough to know that DEFINED BENEFITS are financial disasters to any business, thus all businesses focus on the known, i.e., defined CONTRIBUTIONS alone.</p>
<p>Stealing from the young who silently shoulder the costs and bear the burden of unfunded promises of these programs to enrich the old seems to describe the Governments expansion of entitlement benefits and other government services, along with the taxes young people will have to pay to support them, mostly to subsidize older Americans.</p>
<p>The inmates know that debt for our future generations buys votes.  Over the decades, the proven “concept’ practiced by voters is to defer as much financial responsibilities as possible from our current financial responsibilities to future generations, that have no votes on the subject.</p>
<p>Currently, it’s the future generations that will have the responsibilities to pay for the unsustainable pension programs, other boondoggle projects, and added inefficiencies built into our government.  Simply stated, if we cannot afford it today, pass it off to the future generations to minimize any impact on our current lifestyles.</p>
<p>Virtually all elected officials are heavily financed by unions which are focused on entitlements for their current members.  Thus, no changes can be expected in the foreseeable future for elected officials to ever abandon their source of votes.</p>
<p>It’s unfortunate that those future generations, unable to vote today, will bear the costs of many enacted entitlements and boondoggle projects.</p>
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