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		By: Ken Churchill		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken Churchill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2018 15:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The problem we are facing today began in 1999 when CalPERS told the state legislature that pension increases of 50% retroactively back to the date people were hired would pay for themselves with investment returns. What they did not anticipate though they should have is that the new benefits would double the number of retirees each year because they would retire at younger ages. 

This fraud worked so well that CalPERS then went to every city and county in the state and sold them on the idea. Records show that CalPERS gave the agencies three options to value their assets. For Pacific Grove they told the cost of increasing pensions for safety employees was 25% of salary using current asset values but that the city if they used inflated asset values could tell the City Council the cost would be 2% of salary. So what numbers do you think staff showed the City Council? 

The big problem that needs to be solved is we have people who benefit from the system running the system.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem we are facing today began in 1999 when CalPERS told the state legislature that pension increases of 50% retroactively back to the date people were hired would pay for themselves with investment returns. What they did not anticipate though they should have is that the new benefits would double the number of retirees each year because they would retire at younger ages. </p>
<p>This fraud worked so well that CalPERS then went to every city and county in the state and sold them on the idea. Records show that CalPERS gave the agencies three options to value their assets. For Pacific Grove they told the cost of increasing pensions for safety employees was 25% of salary using current asset values but that the city if they used inflated asset values could tell the City Council the cost would be 2% of salary. So what numbers do you think staff showed the City Council? </p>
<p>The big problem that needs to be solved is we have people who benefit from the system running the system.</p>
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		By: Bryan M		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bryan M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2018 16:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2018/10/29/more-than-100-local-governments-seek-tax-hikes-to-meet-rising-pension-bills/#comment-143879&quot;&gt;Dick Cabaza&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes Dick  C- should be restricted to same aged wife not some Young wife or kept man husband looking for a meal ticket for their lifetime as well- this CalPERS is so out of Control - just let them fail in Bankruptcy under their own greed...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2018/10/29/more-than-100-local-governments-seek-tax-hikes-to-meet-rising-pension-bills/#comment-143879">Dick Cabaza</a>.</p>
<p>Yes Dick  C- should be restricted to same aged wife not some Young wife or kept man husband looking for a meal ticket for their lifetime as well- this CalPERS is so out of Control &#8211; just let them fail in Bankruptcy under their own greed&#8230;</p>
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		By: Bryan M		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bryan M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2018 16:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2018/10/29/more-than-100-local-governments-seek-tax-hikes-to-meet-rising-pension-bills/#comment-143883&quot;&gt;Humble Gardener&lt;/a&gt;.

Absolutely right, and I The ridiculous perk of. Ring able to retire at 50 or 55 just ups the persons taking early retirement, only to go back to work for other Cities for a 2Nd pensions to double dip greedy moves....should be a 30 year vesting to get maybe 50% pension , and not spiked in last 5-10 years rate, more a weighted average of say 2/3 into retirement vesting wage. 
It has been so greedy by Unions and Employees in CalPERS- I say renegotiate contracts back to 65 retirement age or let the Cities file Bankruptcy to flush those bad contracts out. let them collapse on their own selfish foundations- just Pyramid schemes anyway- no future generations can support their greedy structures.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2018/10/29/more-than-100-local-governments-seek-tax-hikes-to-meet-rising-pension-bills/#comment-143883">Humble Gardener</a>.</p>
<p>Absolutely right, and I The ridiculous perk of. Ring able to retire at 50 or 55 just ups the persons taking early retirement, only to go back to work for other Cities for a 2Nd pensions to double dip greedy moves&#8230;.should be a 30 year vesting to get maybe 50% pension , and not spiked in last 5-10 years rate, more a weighted average of say 2/3 into retirement vesting wage.<br />
It has been so greedy by Unions and Employees in CalPERS- I say renegotiate contracts back to 65 retirement age or let the Cities file Bankruptcy to flush those bad contracts out. let them collapse on their own selfish foundations- just Pyramid schemes anyway- no future generations can support their greedy structures.</p>
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		By: Not.A.Liberal		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2018/10/29/more-than-100-local-governments-seek-tax-hikes-to-meet-rising-pension-bills/#comment-143914</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Not.A.Liberal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2018 05:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2018/10/29/more-than-100-local-governments-seek-tax-hikes-to-meet-rising-pension-bills/#comment-143874&quot;&gt;Gigi&lt;/a&gt;.

The vast majority of the CA electorate is either too afraid or too lazy to be informed. They spend more time maximizing entertainment over responsibility.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2018/10/29/more-than-100-local-governments-seek-tax-hikes-to-meet-rising-pension-bills/#comment-143874">Gigi</a>.</p>
<p>The vast majority of the CA electorate is either too afraid or too lazy to be informed. They spend more time maximizing entertainment over responsibility.</p>
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		By: ricky65		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ricky65]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2018 13:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2018/10/29/more-than-100-local-governments-seek-tax-hikes-to-meet-rising-pension-bills/#comment-143879&quot;&gt;Dick Cabaza&lt;/a&gt;.

Those retirements are insane. I fear our public servants have become our public masters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2018/10/29/more-than-100-local-governments-seek-tax-hikes-to-meet-rising-pension-bills/#comment-143879">Dick Cabaza</a>.</p>
<p>Those retirements are insane. I fear our public servants have become our public masters.</p>
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		By: Humble Gardener		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2018/10/29/more-than-100-local-governments-seek-tax-hikes-to-meet-rising-pension-bills/#comment-143897</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Humble Gardener]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2018 17:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2018/10/29/more-than-100-local-governments-seek-tax-hikes-to-meet-rising-pension-bills/#comment-143878&quot;&gt;Johnny&lt;/a&gt;.

Very true, but as they say, the best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago. The second best time to plant a tree is today.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2018/10/29/more-than-100-local-governments-seek-tax-hikes-to-meet-rising-pension-bills/#comment-143878">Johnny</a>.</p>
<p>Very true, but as they say, the best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago. The second best time to plant a tree is today.</p>
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		By: Sharon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sharon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2018 20:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What about negotiations of new construction of these Indian casinos?  I wish they would get more money from these investirs as we need more public safety after they open the doors.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about negotiations of new construction of these Indian casinos?  I wish they would get more money from these investirs as we need more public safety after they open the doors.</p>
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		By: Humble Gardener		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Humble Gardener]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2018 19:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2018/10/29/more-than-100-local-governments-seek-tax-hikes-to-meet-rising-pension-bills/#comment-143863&quot;&gt;Ronald Stein&lt;/a&gt;.

That is not correct if cities declare bankruptcy and are forced to reorganize and trim promised benefits in FEDERAL bankruptcy court. The bankruptcy judge in Detroit&#039;s bankruptcy dispelled the myth that state constitutions that require taxpayers to fund whatever amount has been promised. Pensioners current and future all took a big financial haircut, and there was nothing state legislators, the governor, CalPERS attorneys (they were an interested party in the ruling, for obvious reasons) or anyone else could do about it.

Public employee unions will eventually be shown to have been too greedy, and they will lose it all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2018/10/29/more-than-100-local-governments-seek-tax-hikes-to-meet-rising-pension-bills/#comment-143863">Ronald Stein</a>.</p>
<p>That is not correct if cities declare bankruptcy and are forced to reorganize and trim promised benefits in FEDERAL bankruptcy court. The bankruptcy judge in Detroit&#8217;s bankruptcy dispelled the myth that state constitutions that require taxpayers to fund whatever amount has been promised. Pensioners current and future all took a big financial haircut, and there was nothing state legislators, the governor, CalPERS attorneys (they were an interested party in the ruling, for obvious reasons) or anyone else could do about it.</p>
<p>Public employee unions will eventually be shown to have been too greedy, and they will lose it all.</p>
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		By: Dick Cabaza		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dick Cabaza]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2018 03:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In LA County and City,firemen retire with and AVERAGE annual pension payment of $164500.Police average is roughly $147,000.Secretaties at the Port of L.A. went strike a couple of ears back claiming an average salary at that time of $102,000 was not sufficient to live on.THe strike lasted 3 days and the City acquiesced to their demands which was for an immediate 20% increase in wages.This does not include the golden parachute of goodies that come with this large endowment like no deductible full medical coverage for the poor starving civil servant AND his dependents. Lest we think this is also ok.The dependents can include the second or third wife that 40 years younger than our poor deprived civil servant.In that case the City would be on the hook for all pension payments and health insurance until the person was to die, which could be 30-40 years after the poor civil servant passed on to the pearly gates. I&#039;m positive when I get to heaven and look around there will be two sections, one for the poor peons like me and one with flat screens, two story mansions and guard gated entrances.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In LA County and City,firemen retire with and AVERAGE annual pension payment of $164500.Police average is roughly $147,000.Secretaties at the Port of L.A. went strike a couple of ears back claiming an average salary at that time of $102,000 was not sufficient to live on.THe strike lasted 3 days and the City acquiesced to their demands which was for an immediate 20% increase in wages.This does not include the golden parachute of goodies that come with this large endowment like no deductible full medical coverage for the poor starving civil servant AND his dependents. Lest we think this is also ok.The dependents can include the second or third wife that 40 years younger than our poor deprived civil servant.In that case the City would be on the hook for all pension payments and health insurance until the person was to die, which could be 30-40 years after the poor civil servant passed on to the pearly gates. I&#8217;m positive when I get to heaven and look around there will be two sections, one for the poor peons like me and one with flat screens, two story mansions and guard gated entrances.</p>
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		By: Johnny		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2018/10/29/more-than-100-local-governments-seek-tax-hikes-to-meet-rising-pension-bills/#comment-143878</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Johnny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2018 03:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The problem with this state is that it should of fixed the pension problem 10 years ago and made all the civil servants pay for their own retirements. The taxpayers are paying for their wages,retirements,healthcare and they don&#039;t pay a dime for the private sector people that actually work and generate money. The waste in this state is out of control. Until people take back this state there is no end in sight for stopping the lack of brains in this Government.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with this state is that it should of fixed the pension problem 10 years ago and made all the civil servants pay for their own retirements. The taxpayers are paying for their wages,retirements,healthcare and they don&#8217;t pay a dime for the private sector people that actually work and generate money. The waste in this state is out of control. Until people take back this state there is no end in sight for stopping the lack of brains in this Government.</p>
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