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		By: ricky smith		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2019/07/15/despite-crackdown-is-state-losing-ground-in-vaccination-push/#comment-149152</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ricky smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jul 2019 15:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2019/07/15/despite-crackdown-is-state-losing-ground-in-vaccination-push/#comment-149144&quot;&gt;Oregon Bill&lt;/a&gt;.

Get &#039;em, Bill!
No one has the right to interfere with an old crank&#039;s right to choose!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2019/07/15/despite-crackdown-is-state-losing-ground-in-vaccination-push/#comment-149144">Oregon Bill</a>.</p>
<p>Get &#8217;em, Bill!<br />
No one has the right to interfere with an old crank&#8217;s right to choose!</p>
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		By: Oregon Bill		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oregon Bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jul 2019 00:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MY BODY MY CHOICE!!

The absolute same logic that lets you kill your unborn child lets me tell you to take your vaccine and shove it up your ass.

Hey California Democrats: GET YOUR PEDO-STAINED HANDS OFF MY KIDS! I CAN&#039;T WAIT TO SEE WHICH CALIFORNIA MARXIST ROYALTY ARE TARNISHED BY VISITS TO EPSTEIN&#039;S ORGY ISLAND..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MY BODY MY CHOICE!!</p>
<p>The absolute same logic that lets you kill your unborn child lets me tell you to take your vaccine and shove it up your ass.</p>
<p>Hey California Democrats: GET YOUR PEDO-STAINED HANDS OFF MY KIDS! I CAN&#8217;T WAIT TO SEE WHICH CALIFORNIA MARXIST ROYALTY ARE TARNISHED BY VISITS TO EPSTEIN&#8217;S ORGY ISLAND..</p>
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		By: Ulysses Uhaul		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2019/07/15/despite-crackdown-is-state-losing-ground-in-vaccination-push/#comment-149106</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ulysses Uhaul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2019 17:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2019/07/15/despite-crackdown-is-state-losing-ground-in-vaccination-push/#comment-149101&quot;&gt;ricky smith&lt;/a&gt;.

You’re need to evaluate what you believe....this is not Central Congo yet....do you want Doomers keeling over in the streets and being hauled off in uncertified 14 century carts....at least compassionately use our clean/safety approved trailers Ricky. 

Appreciate the business and will throw in a free checkup at Big Al’s Urgent Care In Randsburg or Adelanto for any symptomatic family member.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2019/07/15/despite-crackdown-is-state-losing-ground-in-vaccination-push/#comment-149101">ricky smith</a>.</p>
<p>You’re need to evaluate what you believe&#8230;.this is not Central Congo yet&#8230;.do you want Doomers keeling over in the streets and being hauled off in uncertified 14 century carts&#8230;.at least compassionately use our clean/safety approved trailers Ricky. </p>
<p>Appreciate the business and will throw in a free checkup at Big Al’s Urgent Care In Randsburg or Adelanto for any symptomatic family member.</p>
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		By: ricky smith		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2019/07/15/despite-crackdown-is-state-losing-ground-in-vaccination-push/#comment-149101</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ricky smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2019 16:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2019/07/15/despite-crackdown-is-state-losing-ground-in-vaccination-push/#comment-149078&quot;&gt;Standing Fast&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m with you SF on this one. 
We used to call that freedom but that&#039;s an old fashioned concept these days.
If some parents opt out of vaccination for their children then so be it. 
Besides if the large percentage of parents choose to vaccinate then it seems it would be nearly impossible for an epidemic to start and spread with only a small portion of the population not inoculated to it.
Right now as long as a very large percentage do not opt out its not a problem. 
The flip side is those who do opt out might face the prospect of having a very sick kid on their hands and conscience.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2019/07/15/despite-crackdown-is-state-losing-ground-in-vaccination-push/#comment-149078">Standing Fast</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with you SF on this one.<br />
We used to call that freedom but that&#8217;s an old fashioned concept these days.<br />
If some parents opt out of vaccination for their children then so be it.<br />
Besides if the large percentage of parents choose to vaccinate then it seems it would be nearly impossible for an epidemic to start and spread with only a small portion of the population not inoculated to it.<br />
Right now as long as a very large percentage do not opt out its not a problem.<br />
The flip side is those who do opt out might face the prospect of having a very sick kid on their hands and conscience.</p>
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		By: Queeg		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2019/07/15/despite-crackdown-is-state-losing-ground-in-vaccination-push/#comment-149088</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Queeg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jul 2019 18:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Comrades

The canaries are not vaccinated,,,,,,

Get over it, your future is a soiled undersized white smock in a long queue at a Maduro style clinca.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comrades</p>
<p>The canaries are not vaccinated,,,,,,</p>
<p>Get over it, your future is a soiled undersized white smock in a long queue at a Maduro style clinca.</p>
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		By: Standing Fast		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Standing Fast]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jul 2019 18:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2019/07/15/despite-crackdown-is-state-losing-ground-in-vaccination-push/#comment-149079&quot;&gt;M T Tarr&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you.  So, what does this mean, CalWatchdog is in cahoots with Big Pharma?  Well, why not?  They are a giant capitalist concern and represent materialism&#039;s eye-view of the ultimate achievement.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2019/07/15/despite-crackdown-is-state-losing-ground-in-vaccination-push/#comment-149079">M T Tarr</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you.  So, what does this mean, CalWatchdog is in cahoots with Big Pharma?  Well, why not?  They are a giant capitalist concern and represent materialism&#8217;s eye-view of the ultimate achievement.</p>
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		By: M T Tarr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M T Tarr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jul 2019 18:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Parents who&#039;ve watched their previously healthy children develop neurological, immunological, digestive, and other problems &quot;reject representations of public health officials&quot; because their own first hand knowledge and experience tells the truth. Public health agencies including the CDC, and elected officials like Senator Pan, are in complete cahoots with the pharmaceutical industry and incapable of telling the truth. Pan&#039;s reasoning changes as it suits him. With the 1986 law granting immunity from any liability, doctors, health insurers, and most of all, vaccine manufacturers, have no incentive to protect the health of the medically fragile, and every incentive to push mandatory vaccines. With campaign finance the way it is, our law makers just keep taking Pharma dollars and doing their bidding. Most of the media is pharma owned too. I had hoped you would be different. And, what about bodily sovereignty? Do people not have a right to refuse medical treatment when such treatment poses a risk? Even a bottle of tylenol comes with warnings and contraindications but you can get a flu shot without any proper disclosure and informed consent. To question this is to be accused of being &quot;anti-science&quot; or &quot;selfish&quot; but I disagree.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parents who&#8217;ve watched their previously healthy children develop neurological, immunological, digestive, and other problems &#8220;reject representations of public health officials&#8221; because their own first hand knowledge and experience tells the truth. Public health agencies including the CDC, and elected officials like Senator Pan, are in complete cahoots with the pharmaceutical industry and incapable of telling the truth. Pan&#8217;s reasoning changes as it suits him. With the 1986 law granting immunity from any liability, doctors, health insurers, and most of all, vaccine manufacturers, have no incentive to protect the health of the medically fragile, and every incentive to push mandatory vaccines. With campaign finance the way it is, our law makers just keep taking Pharma dollars and doing their bidding. Most of the media is pharma owned too. I had hoped you would be different. And, what about bodily sovereignty? Do people not have a right to refuse medical treatment when such treatment poses a risk? Even a bottle of tylenol comes with warnings and contraindications but you can get a flu shot without any proper disclosure and informed consent. To question this is to be accused of being &#8220;anti-science&#8221; or &#8220;selfish&#8221; but I disagree.</p>
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		By: Standing Fast		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jul 2019 18:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I find it hard to believe that Libertarians, who supposedly believe that the government we are getting is way too intrusive and interfering in our lives and liberty, are complaining that some people are resisting government-mandated vaccinations because they do not believe them to be safe.  And you pooh-pooh the idea that maybe, just maybe, they aren&#039;t safe for everyone.

First of all, since when does government know best what is good you YOU?  

Second of all, there are documented cases of children and adults who react so badly to the new vaccines that they suffer permanent damage, even death.  If a parent or a patient is afraid this might happen to them, shouldn&#039;t they have a right to decline?

Third, there are, in addition, medical conditions and other factors that make any kind of vaccination dangerous for an individual.  Ought not a doctor to be able to sign a waiver?  

Fourth, the new vaccines are administered in bundles of eight, ten, twenty different types and the doses are industrial strength.  This is not the way it was when I was a wee lass in the 1950&#039;s during the polio epidemic.  When the vaccine became available, children were immunized were given the vaccine all by itself.

I remember being given other vaccinations, one, two, maybe three at a time.  Bad reactions were rare because the doses were not so intense as to overwhelm a person&#039;s immune system.

Fifth, I&#039;ve read the new vaccines are less potent than the previous generation of vaccines.  Well, maybe so, but the early vaccines were administered one at a time and they were not industrial strength.

Sixth, vaccinating people against dangerous diseases seems like a good thing.  But, in the long run it is not a good thing.  Before vaccines, people who survived deadly epidemics were able to pass on their resistance to their offspring.  Over time, people became healthier as a result, if their food supply was not compromised.  Now that we are vaccinated for virtually everything under the sun, generations of people have no immunities to pass on to their offspring.  If there comes a time when the vaccinations are not widely available, what do you think will happen?

Seventh, Science and Medicine are not the salvation of mankind.  Government does not know best what is good for you.  If you believe otherwise, you are not a friend of Liberty.  Liberty allows individuals to use their own judgment about all matters concerning themselves.  If you love Liberty, stop bullying people who are exercising theirs.

I&#039;ll stop here, but I can&#039;t help wondering what has happened to the Libertarians?  Or, is it maybe they have always been this way and I didn&#039;t see it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it hard to believe that Libertarians, who supposedly believe that the government we are getting is way too intrusive and interfering in our lives and liberty, are complaining that some people are resisting government-mandated vaccinations because they do not believe them to be safe.  And you pooh-pooh the idea that maybe, just maybe, they aren&#8217;t safe for everyone.</p>
<p>First of all, since when does government know best what is good you YOU?  </p>
<p>Second of all, there are documented cases of children and adults who react so badly to the new vaccines that they suffer permanent damage, even death.  If a parent or a patient is afraid this might happen to them, shouldn&#8217;t they have a right to decline?</p>
<p>Third, there are, in addition, medical conditions and other factors that make any kind of vaccination dangerous for an individual.  Ought not a doctor to be able to sign a waiver?  </p>
<p>Fourth, the new vaccines are administered in bundles of eight, ten, twenty different types and the doses are industrial strength.  This is not the way it was when I was a wee lass in the 1950&#8217;s during the polio epidemic.  When the vaccine became available, children were immunized were given the vaccine all by itself.</p>
<p>I remember being given other vaccinations, one, two, maybe three at a time.  Bad reactions were rare because the doses were not so intense as to overwhelm a person&#8217;s immune system.</p>
<p>Fifth, I&#8217;ve read the new vaccines are less potent than the previous generation of vaccines.  Well, maybe so, but the early vaccines were administered one at a time and they were not industrial strength.</p>
<p>Sixth, vaccinating people against dangerous diseases seems like a good thing.  But, in the long run it is not a good thing.  Before vaccines, people who survived deadly epidemics were able to pass on their resistance to their offspring.  Over time, people became healthier as a result, if their food supply was not compromised.  Now that we are vaccinated for virtually everything under the sun, generations of people have no immunities to pass on to their offspring.  If there comes a time when the vaccinations are not widely available, what do you think will happen?</p>
<p>Seventh, Science and Medicine are not the salvation of mankind.  Government does not know best what is good for you.  If you believe otherwise, you are not a friend of Liberty.  Liberty allows individuals to use their own judgment about all matters concerning themselves.  If you love Liberty, stop bullying people who are exercising theirs.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll stop here, but I can&#8217;t help wondering what has happened to the Libertarians?  Or, is it maybe they have always been this way and I didn&#8217;t see it?</p>
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