Wonderful post, thank you

Good Point UU–

It’s been hot in Adelanto, the poor devils—– sad that the gop is dead, the doomera press on……..

Teddy

The tome scribe is most likely Skippy, delusional Eck or that insane RAGWUS chaser…so sad….Why does CWD attract unemployable, student debt ravaged Cal State U liberal arts types.

Pack N Ship is right! NEVER write a long 5150 type post out here. This will give you a tin foil hat reputation and over the years we have seen em come and go—- stay strong and pithy.

NOW for my question— why do these gop trump cult dummies always want to destroy the planet? Whats in it for them?

discuss– T

Tomes are a struggle…..shorty and pithy….exhausted….

When I was a kid in the early 1960’s, maybe ten or eleven, I hated seeing people throw trash out the window of their cars. When I was older and Lady Bird Johnson initiated her “Beautify America” program–which I understood as a voluntary effort of individuals to stop littering and pick up trash. I thought that was a great idea. After awhile there wasn’t so much trash all over the place.

But then after a long time of things improving, all of the sudden the trash was back. All over the place. Walks in the mountains, in the desert, on the beach, anywhere were spoiled by the sight of other people’s garbage. Trash cans are all over the place but some people apparently don’t know what they are for.

So, now the trash issue has turned into a pollution issue, and pollution, if not reduced or eliminated, will get worse. Pollution is not a necessary side-effect of prosperity. It is a side-effect of sloth. If we are too lazy to figure out a better way to do something, then we ought not to do it.

God gave us this beautiful world to live in, as a blessing, and the responsibility to be good stewards of the land. Litter and pollution show that we are neither grateful nor responsible. Consequences are already showing up, and eventually will be impossible to reverse before cataclysmic damage is done. No, I am not an advocate of Climate Change Science. I am an advocate for Liberty–the kind that America’s founding fathers gave us for an inheritance.

So, there is a crisis–the plastic & other trash in our waterways and oceans is killing wildlife and plugging up flood control channels. The oceans are covered with so much trash it can be detected by high-altitude heat-sensing gizmos I forget the name of. The heat is caused by the Sun’s rays on the trash, which then radiates the heat into the air above and the water below. This has to be affecting weather patterns on land.

Fish, whales & dolphins & otters, turtles, and other sea creatures get caught in trash we’ve tossed into the street or gutters or rivers or elsewhere, and many of them die. A whale was found on a beach, asphyxiated by tiny items of garbage that had been inhaled unwittingly. I’ve seen photos of sea turtles who got caught in the loop of a six-pack holder at an early age and whose shells were deformed because they couldn’t get out of it.

It gets worse. I buy bottled water and we like to donate the empties to people because we don’t need the money. But, if they cannot get a refund from a store or a recycle center, then I know it is going to end up in the ocean or buried in the ground where it will be forever before it decomposes. I can see that being able to get a refund on return bottles is a great way to curb littering and pollution. But, I always thought this was a private sector operation.

I also do not agree with the assertion that our landfills are in good shape and we have plenty of room for more. We don’t live in a statistical matrix. We live in watersheds, everywhere we live is uphill on one side and downhill on the other–even if it looks to be flat and horizontal. We live in valleys, meadows, flood plains, hillsides, passes, mountains, cliffs, heights, lowlands, all over the place. We live near farms and ranches, near military bases and colleges, we live near parks and nature preserves. You put a landfill anywhere near us and it degrades everything. When it is full it has to have vents installed to release the methane. We can use methane for clean energy, but I don’t know if we are doing that.

In the old days, people burned their garbage, but we can’t do that now because there are too many of us. Our air would be so polluted.

In California there are so many people in order to find new landfill zones we have to go out into the pristine wilderness to throw away our garbage. Places proposed include active earthquake faults and fracture zones, hillsides visible for miles around, Indian burial grounds, archeological sites, historical areas, and so forth. Not acceptable to me. We should treasure our land, not plunder it.

I do not believe in draconian solutions to problems unless we are at war or suffering from a natural or manmade disaster. So, though I support refunding for plastic and glass bottle returns in principle, no, I do not support Senate Bill 54 because it is a badly-designed bill that will cause more problems. I think this should be a private sector solution, and I think it can be if we put our thinking caps on.

I’d like to see a real viable libertarian solution to this problem. There is one if we remember that Liberty is Freedom and Independence, meaning freedom to exercise self-control, self-government, self-reliance and self-restraint.

If they were serious and truly cared they would pool their Own Resources from their members and Open up their very own Recycling Center to show everyone else how it is done.

2/3rds of the walk in recycling centers have closed because the STATE was losing Money and they don’t want to give back the deposit you were forced to PAY!

No fear, deflect to the kids needing something, and jack up everything and soon…..it’s looking real real dicey out there-