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		<title>Amtrak, CA high-speed rail cancel joint train agreement</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2014 08:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s another blow to California&#8217;s high-speed rail project. AP reported: SACRAMENTO, Calif. — Amtrak and the California High-Speed Rail Authority said Friday that they canceled a joint agreement seeking companies to build]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img decoding="async" class="alignright size-full wp-image-65027" src="http://calwatchdog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Amtrak_logo_1971.png" alt="Amtrak_logo_(1971)" width="206" height="62" />It&#8217;s another blow to California&#8217;s high-speed rail project. <a href="http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/06/20/5916828/california-amtrak-end-joint-high.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">AP reported</a>:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em><span class="dateline" style="color: #111111;">SACRAMENTO, Calif. — </span><span style="color: #111111;">Amtrak and the California High-Speed Rail Authority said Friday that they canceled a joint agreement seeking companies to build high-speed trains for them, a proposal billed as a way to save money and lure advanced train manufacturing to the United States.</span></em></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em><span style="color: #111111;">The agencies said their needs are too different and manufacturers are not yet ready to build trains that can run on both Amtrak&#8217;s 100-year-old rail lines and the high-speed corridors planned for California&#8217;s system.</span></em></p>
<p>It&#8217;s basic Econ. 101: The more you make of something, the lower the costs for each unit. That means the California project will cost more than it would have before Friday.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also ironic because Amtrak is another inefficient government system that still receives subsidies, although those have been <a href="http://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2013/10/01/four-states-continue-talks-to-keep-amtrak-service" target="_blank" rel="noopener">shifted mostly to the states </a>from the federal government.</p>
<p>Two socialist systems being unable to work together is another indication that both should be canceled.</p>
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		<title>State government will have to start subsidizing Amtrak soon</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 15:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jan. 24, 2013 By Chris Reed Congress and most presidents have long been ridiculously tolerant of Amtrak and its never-ending need for federal aid &#8212; the equivalent of massive ongoing]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jan. 24, 2013</p>
<p>By Chris Reed</p>
<p>Congress and most presidents have long been <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/amtrak-124-billion-boondoggle-article-1.1114291" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ridiculously tolerant</a> of Amtrak and its never-ending need for federal aid &#8212; the equivalent of massive ongoing annual bailouts. But five years ago, lawmakers actually got a little fed up. The result was a law that required states to assume the subsidies on routes of less than 750 miles that were entirely within their boundaries, beginning in late 2013.</p>
<p>As the <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323301104578258270226054556.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Wall Street Journal</a> <a href="http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?4,2975481" target="_blank" rel="noopener">reported Wednesday</a>, this is already causing consternation in New York, Pennsylvania and other states, which expect to have to foot annual bills in the tens of millions of dollars.</p>
<p><img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-11746" alt="Bullet Train Pic1" src="http://www.calwatchdog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Bullet-Train-Pic1-300x225.jpg" width="300" height="225" align="right" hspace="20/" />Here in California, this should set up an entertaining subplot in the battle over high-speed rail. It is difficult to quickly determine what the state&#8217;s Amtrak tab will be in coming years. The <a href="http://www.ebudget.ca.gov/pdf/GovernorsBudget/2500.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener">lengthy PDF</a> of the state transportation budget for 2013-14 does not include any line-item expenditures showing an Amtrak subsidy, but the funds could easily be buried within a larger category. Also unclear from looking at the Amtrak California website is how many routes the state will have to subsidize. Some of the most popular routes that end in Los Angeles or San Francisco actually originate thousands of miles away in other states and apparently will continue to get federal subsidies.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, it is obvious that California is going to need to come up with millions of dollars to take over the subsidies for interstate routes such as <a href="http://www.amtrak.com/san-francisco-bay-area-northern-california-train-routes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">those linking</a> Sacramento and the Bay Area, and Sacramento and Los Angeles. And the need for the state to heavily subsidize Amtrak&#8217;s in-state routes will underscore one of the <a href="http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/Green-Economics/2011/0426/A-historical-look-at-subsidizing-railroads" target="_blank" rel="noopener">oldest and strongest critiques</a> offered by critics of California&#8217;s bullet-train project and rail projects in general: They will never break even or make money because just about <a href="http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/Green-Economics/2011/0426/A-historical-look-at-subsidizing-railroads" target="_blank" rel="noopener">no train in the U.S. breaks even or makes money</a>.</p>
<p>This will be a useful reminder &#8212; one more warning that the bullet train will never be a cash cow, whatever the <a href="http://voterguide.sos.ca.gov/past/2008/general/argu-rebut/argu-rebutt1a.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener">grandiose promises</a> made for Proposition 1A in 2008 or made now by Gov. Jerry Brown.</p>
<p>I would have put that it was a &#8220;powerful reminder,&#8221; but then I remembered this insane <a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2011/nov/04/opinion/la-ed-train-20111104" target="_blank" rel="noopener">L.A. Times editorial</a>.</p>
<p>For some people, belief in the bullet train has a quasi-religious vibe. Unfortunately for Californians and for rationality in general, that includes the editorialists of the state&#8217;s largest and most powerful newspaper.</p>
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		<title>Rail Series: Who will own it? Who will pay for it?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 09:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is Part 6 of a series on Medium-Speed rail alternatives to California’s High-Speed Rail project. Click to read Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, and Part 5. Dec. 18, 2012 By Stan Brin In]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><i><b><i><a href="http://www.calwatchdog.com/2012/12/18/rail-series-who-will-own-it-who-will-pay-for-it/amtrak-wikipedia/" rel="attachment wp-att-35623"><img decoding="async" class="alignright size-full wp-image-35623" alt="Amtrak - wikipedia" src="http://www.calwatchdog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Amtrak-wikipedia.jpg" width="250" height="188" align="right" hspace="20/" /></a>This is Part 6 of a series on <strong><em>Medium-Speed rail alternatives to California’s High-Speed Rail project. </em><em><strong>Click to read <a href="http://www.calwatchdog.com/2012/12/10/railroad-series-medium-speed-rail-runs-over-high-speed-rail/">Part 1</a>, <a href="http://www.calwatchdog.com/2012/12/12/rail-series-a-capitalist-solution-for-california-train-travel/">Part 2</a>, <a href="http://www.calwatchdog.com/2012/12/13/rail-series-single-track-bottleneck-slows-ca-trains/">Part 3</a>, <a href="http://www.calwatchdog.com/2012/12/14/rail-series-medium-speed-train-tracking-costs-less-than-high-speed-rail/">Part 4</a>, and <a href="http://www.calwatchdog.com/2012/12/17/rail-series-surmounting-the-tehachapi-barrier/">Part 5</a>.<br />
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<p>Dec. 18, 2012</p>
<p>By Stan Brin</p>
<p>In any discussion of rail expansion, two gorillas always appear: How do we pay for it? How do we keep the government out of it?</p>
<p>I’m not a politician. I can only accept that the people of California, especially in the areas that would be served by faster rail service, have spoken. They want it and appear ready to pay for it. They were simply sold a technically impossible can of worms at a ridiculous price.</p>
<p>Here comes the hard part: Private enterprise isn’t interested, at least not in financing it.</p>
<p>In fact, railroad companies, often willing to go to heroic lengths to improve their freight traffic, feel about passenger service the way most people feel about disease-bearing insects. It’s death.</p>
<p>Overregulation and price manipulation by the now-defunct <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Commerce_Commission" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Interstate Commerce Commission</a> nearly wiped them out.</p>
<p>While the federal regulators that kept fares low and unprofitable lines open have been abolished, I don’t see anyone stepping in to invest his own money. So if the taxpayers want trains, they will have to pay for them out of the public purse, the way Louis XIV <a href="http://www.calwatchdog.com/2012/12/12/rail-series-a-capitalist-solution-for-california-train-travel/">financed the Canal du Midi</a>.</p>
<h3><b>Who is to own it?</b></h3>
<p>As planned, the High-Speed Rail project is to be an independent, state-owned system operating entirely on its own.</p>
<p>My alternative, on the other hand, would be mostly a modernization of existing routes &#8212; the Tehachapi segment being the exception &#8212; and a part of the national railroad system. The track owners are likely to be the companies that own the existing right of way, Union Pacific and BNSF, or a combination of the two &#8212; or a consortium along the lines of the Alameda Corridor agency.</p>
<p>Perhaps a new company will operate the trains that will run on the new tracks, but perhaps no one but Amtrak (sigh<i>)</i> will <i>want</i> to operate it.</p>
<p>There is no question that Amtrak loses money on every line it runs. There is no question that Amtrak could probably break even on its East Coast “sorta high speed” <a href="http://www.amtrak.com/acela-express-train" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Acela Express</a> line if politics didn’t intercede to keep fares about five bucks per ticket below cost.</p>
<p>There is also no question that its long distance routes across the prairies and deserts can <i>never</i> break even because the ridership isn’t there. Political pressure keeps those lines rolling.</p>
<p>A divested Amtrak would face the same issues.</p>
<p>I believe that that Amtrak can be divested, but Congress would likely force the private operator or operators to maintain unprofitable lines, and the private operators, in turn, would expect federal subsidies to do so, bringing us back to square one.</p>
<p>In fact, it’s hard to find a precedent for this problem. The British divested their state-owned trains in the 1990s, and created a bloody mess which they still haven’t been able to clean up. Even Richard Branson couldn’t make a go of it. His Virgin Rail Group system and was about to lose his franchise until it was <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Trains" target="_blank" rel="noopener">extended until November 14</a>. After that, it&#8217;s uncertain what will happen.</p>
<p>The Federal Government successfully divested its cobbled-together <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conrail" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Conrail </a>system in the 1980s, but its assets were undervalued and the taxpayers were taken to the cleaners. The two private railroads that snapped up Conrail made a fortune.</p>
<h3>France</h3>
<p>Perhaps the whole thing should just be turned over to the French. Against all logic, their TGV trains make a profit of a billion dollars a year, even if they can’t regularly run above 200 mph. The French also obtain 75 percent of their electricity from nuclear facilities, but have never had a major accident.</p>
<p>Go figure.</p>
<p>In 2010, the managers of the French high-speed rail system <a href="http://www.joplinglobe.com/national/x694485136/California-high-speed-rail-officials-rebuffed-proposal-from-French-railway" target="_blank" rel="noopener">made some suggestions </a>to the California HSR authorities that they said would make the line profitable, but they were rudely ignored.</p>
<p>Perhaps someone thought such behavior was a form of payback &#8212; Americans being rude to the French, for a change.</p>
<p>Whatever the case, the French went home in a huff, and we’re stuck with a boondoggle. And certainly no one is going to pay any attention to all my talk about double-tracking.</p>
<p>Medium-Speed Rail?</p>
<p>It’s too easy, and too cheap.</p>
<p>Forget about it.</p>
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