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		<title>In debate, Brown mocks Mississippi and Arkansas (i.e., the Clintons)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2014 14:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In Thursday night&#8217;s debate between Gov. Jerry Brown and Neel Kashkari, the candidates sounded pretty scripted until Brown was asked about California&#8217;s ability to deal with its huge pension shortfalls.]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-67648" src="http://calwatchdog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/brown.clinton.1992.jpg" alt="brown.clinton.1992" width="312" height="163" align="right" hspace="20" srcset="https://calwatchdog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/brown.clinton.1992.jpg 312w, https://calwatchdog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/brown.clinton.1992-300x156.jpg 300w" sizes="(max-width: 312px) 100vw, 312px" />In Thursday night&#8217;s debate between Gov. Jerry Brown and Neel Kashkari, the candidates sounded pretty scripted until Brown was asked about California&#8217;s ability to deal with its huge pension shortfalls.</p>
<p>Brown depicted that as an absurd question for a wealthy state with a proud history and vast resources. &#8220;Are we in Arkansas or Mississippi? This is the eighth-largest economy in the world,&#8221; he declared.</p>
<p>Yes, of course, the great majority of people would rather live in California than Arkansas or Mississippi. Summers that are like a humid version of Las Vegas kill the soul.</p>
<p>But if Brown is going to mock these states, that invites comparisons.</p>
<p>So here we go. The governor of California holds up Arkansas and Mississipi to ridicule even though &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8212; They have a <a href="http://www.census.gov/prod/2013pubs/p60-247.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener">much lower poverty rate</a>, according to Census Bureau statistics that also include the cost of living.</p>
<p>&#8212; They have much lower unemployment, using the Bureau of Labor Statistics&#8217; more refined <a href="http://www.bls.gov/lau/stalt.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener">U-6 measure</a> that is based on adults who want full-time work but can&#8217;t find it, instead of treating part-time workers who rarely have benefits like full-time workers.</p>
<p>&#8212; They have far higher rates of <a href="http://www.bls.gov/lau/stalt.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener">home-ownership</a>, too.</p>
<h3>As in 1992, Brown takes debate potshot at Clintons</h3>
<p>But I get a great kick out of this because I think Jerry Brown knows exactly what he&#8217;s doing.</p>
<p>Jerry has had bad blood with the most famous Arkansan of our time since early 1992. That is when, during a Democratic presidential candidate debate, he alleged that Gov. Bill Clinton had funneled state money to the Little Rock law firm of his wife, Hillary Clinton. Bill Clinton was, er, peeved. Here&#8217;s a <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNl_dMVmuZQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener">link</a> to a great short clip in which Bill tells Jerry off.</p>
<p>In Thursday night&#8217;s debate, Brown could have made his haughty point a number of ways.</p>
<p>He could have said Mississippi and West Virginia. He could have said Mississippi and Alabama. He could have said Mississippi and Louisiana.</p>
<p>But he said &#8220;Arkansas or Mississippi.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re a political junkie, this is delicious.</p>
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		<title>Live-blogging Brown/Kashkari debate</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2014 00:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[CalWatchdog.com will be live-blogging throughout the gubernatorial debate tonight, between Gov. Jerry Brown and challenger Neel Kashkari. The debate kicks off at 7 p.m. Stay tuned&#8230;]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CalWatchdog.com will be live-blogging throughout the gubernatorial debate tonight, between Gov. Jerry Brown and challenger Neel Kashkari. The debate kicks off at 7 p.m.</p>
<p>Stay tuned&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Debate ignored issue crucial to California: immigration</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 16:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oct. 4, 2012 By John Seiler I agree with my colleague Katy Grimes&#8217; assessment that Mitt Romney easily won last night&#8217;s debate. He easily command over President Valium. But the]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.calwatchdog.com/2012/08/27/is-california-about-to-become-a-sanctuary-state/illegal-immigrant-crossing-sign/" rel="attachment wp-att-31461"><img decoding="async" class="alignright size-full wp-image-31461" title="illegal-immigrant-crossing-sign" src="http://www.calwatchdog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/illegal-immigrant-crossing-sign.jpg" alt="" width="275" height="292" align="right" hspace="20" /></a>Oct. 4, 2012</p>
<p>By John Seiler</p>
<p>I agree with my colleague Katy Grimes&#8217; assessment that Mitt Romney easily won last night&#8217;s debate. He easily command over President Valium.</p>
<p>But the debate ignored an issue critical to California: immigration.</p>
<p>Romney won the primaries largely because he talked tough on immigration. He painted his main opponents, Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum and Rick Perry, as amnesty wimps. This went over big time with the party&#8217;s anti-immigration base.</p>
<p>As longtime Romney enthusiast Ann Coulter <a href="http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2011-12-28.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">wrote last December</a>:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>&#8220;capitulate on illegal immigration, and the entire country will have the electorate of California. There will be no turning back&#8230;.</em></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>&#8220;Massive legal and illegal immigration has already so changed the California electorate that no Republican can be elected statewide anymore. Not so long ago, this was a state that produced great Republican governors and senators like Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, S.I. Hayakawa and Pete Wilson. </em></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>&#8220;If even Carly Fiorina and Meg Whitman, two bright, attractive, successful female business executives &#8212; one pro-life and one pro-choice &#8212; can&#8217;t win a statewide election in California spending millions of their own dollars in the middle of the 2010 Republican sweep, it&#8217;s buenas noches, muchachos. </em></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>&#8220;Only Michele Bachmann and Mitt Romney aren&#8217;t trying to sneak through amnesty for illegal aliens.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>By then, Bachmann was not a contender. So that left Romney.</p>
<h3>Gov. Etch-A-Sketch</h3>
<p>But on Monday, Romney flip-flopped on immigration &#8212; again. <a href="http://nationaljournal.com/politics/romney-softens-on-immigration-but-will-it-help-him-with-hispanics--20121002" target="_blank" rel="noopener">National Journal reported</a>:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>&#8220;Mitt Romney’s advisers have long insisted that economic doldrums—not immigration policy—would turn Hispanic voters toward the Republican nominee.</em></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>&#8220;But Romney’s decision to break his silence on allowing young illegal immigrants to stay in the United States reflects a shift in that failing strategy and an implicit admission that the increasingly powerful Hispanic vote could, in part, cost him the election.</em></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>&#8220;<a href="http://mobile.nationaljournal.com/2012-presidential-campaign/romney-my-campaign-is-about-the-100-percent--20120919" target="_blank" rel="noopener">After months of mostly stonewalling</a> about President Obama’s order to stop deporting children brought to the United States illegally by their parents, <a href="http://www.denverpost.com/nationalpolitics/ci_21676605/romney-wont-deport-young-illegals-who-have-temporary" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Romney told The Denver Post</a> on Monday that he would not repeal those temporary visas. On Tuesday, his campaign said he would end the program for others if elected president.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Actually, the Hispanic vote is only about 7 percent of the electorate. It routinely votes about 67 percent Democratic. Assuming Romney&#8217;s new position resonates among Hispanics, he might reduce that 67 percent to 60 percent &#8212; if he&#8217;s lucky. So, he would improve by 7 percentage points. Multiply that (.07) times a 7 percent electorate (.07) and  at most he would gain 0.35 percentage points.</p>
<p>Moreover, few of the expected pro-Romney Hispanic switch would be in swing states. Most Hispanics live in big Blue states (California, New York, Illinois) or Texas (Red state for now). Florida is an exception, because it&#8217;s a swing state with a lot of Hispanics. But most Hispanics there are Cubans, for whom there&#8217;s already a special law allowing relatives to come here as refugees from Castro&#8217;s communism.</p>
<p>Hispanics soon will be a much larger electorate. They&#8217;re 16 percent of the population now, but their population is younger, so they have more kids under 18 years old; and many are immigrants, legal and illegal, until they become citizens. But this isn&#8217;t the 2024 election; it&#8217;s the 2012 election.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, the white (&#8220;Anglo&#8221;) electorate still is about 65 percent of the national electorate. Probably at least half of them oppose amnesty. How many of them will be offended now that Romney supports amnesty? Probably a lot more than .35 percentage points. Many in Ohio, Iowa, Colorado and other swing states will stay home in disgust on election day.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s no wonder his adviser, Eric Fehrnstrom, <a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2012/mar/21/news/la-pn-romney-clarifies-etchasketch-remarks-to-reporters-20120321" target="_blank" rel="noopener">said last March</a> after Mitt had wound up his primary victories and secured the nomination, &#8220;Well, I think you hit a reset button for the fall campaign. Everything changes. It’s almost like an Etch-A-Sketch. You can kind of shake it up and restart all over again.&#8221;</p>
<p>Obama could have brought up amnesty as yet another Etch-A-Sketch Romney moment, but the president was napping.</p>
<p>Maybe immigration will come up in a later debate. But for now, this issue crucial especially to California is not even being discussed in this campaign.</p>
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		<title>Debates: Meg &#038; Jerry should do 25</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John Seiler: Meg Whitman is OK with three debates until the November election, Jerry wants 10. But what we should have is two debates every week. That would be about]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.calwatchdog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Goldwater.jpg"><img decoding="async" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-7197" title="Goldwater" src="http://www.calwatchdog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Goldwater.jpg" alt="" hspace="20" width="83" height="128" align="right" /></a><a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?blogid=14&amp;entry_id=68828" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><em>John Seiler: </em>Meg Whitman is OK with three debates until the November election, Jerry wants 10</a>. But what we should have is two debates every week. That would be about 25.</p>
<p>My idea comes from the JFK-Goldwater debates of 1964. The men were friendly rivals from their days in the U.S. Senate in the 1950s. For JFK&#8217;s 1964 re-election bid, assuming Goldwater as his opponent, they planned to tour the country holding frequent debates. How wonderful that would have been.</p>
<p>Instead, JFK was assassinated. Goldwater was nominated by the Republicans, but the conservative was demonized as a warmonger by President LBJ. LBJ won easily, then himself turned out to be the warmonger who in 1965 sent American ground troops into Vietnam. (Before, there had been only 15,000 advisors, which JFK was getting ready to withdraw.)</p>
<p>LBJ&#8217;s war killed 58,000 Americans, several million Vietnamese, and bankrupted America. It also brought about massive anti-war protests, especially in California, that gave rise to the counter-culture that, ever since, has run and ruined American culture, especially the schools.</p>
<p>In 1964, LBJ refused to debate Goldwater. What a coward LBJ was.</p>
<p>Anyway, the point is that we need many debates. Jerry and Meg should tour California, holding 25 debates in all the major cities of our state.</p>
<p>Do it for the memory of Barry and JFK.</p>
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