Comments on: Assemblywoman Grove raises union power issue

By: SeeSaw

SeeSaw — Sun, 14 Sep 2014 00:12:27 +0000

True–I don’t dispute that there are billionaires giving bucks to Democrats. I do not hate billionaires–I want people to have money so that they can be personally sustainable, plus having the ability to help others not so fortunate. I worked in the public sector long enough to know that people who have a certain political ideology, hang on to that, regardless of their spot on their, respective, work place-totem polls. Public safety workers have a higher percentage of union members that are Republicans than the miscellaneous category, because they have higher incomes that match with more conservative ideological beliefs. The link for most public-sector workers is gaining a fair shake regarding wages and benefits–political parties aside–they do not blend personal ideologies. I have seen no studies on this, but I just know from personal experience. And, yes, this is David-vs-Goliath class warfare–the standard middle class workers cannot obtain fairness unless they band together and pool their resources. The billionaires only need to whip out their, respective, individual wallets and pick which politicians they want to use to carry out their own personal methods for controlling the sheep. As one of the sheep, I have no problem determining which side to support.

By: Richard Rider

Richard Rider — Sat, 13 Sep 2014 17:24:12 +0000

In reply to SeeSaw.

Gosh, Seesaw, aren’t there billionaires giving big bucks to Democrats? According to this study by a liberal “fact checking” outfit, more billionaires gave to Democrats so far in 2014!

To quote from the article: “We cross-checked the Open Secrets list of the top 100 individuals donating to outside spending groups in the current election against the Forbes list of the world’s billionaires and found that, as of June 19, there were 22 individuals on the Open Secrets list who were billionaires. Of those 22 billionaires, 13 — or more than half — gave predominantly to liberal groups or groups affiliated with the Democratic Party. The other nine gave predominantly to conservative groups.”
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2014/jun/23/do-many-billionaires-support-democratic-party/

Yes, which party gets more from billionaires can swing one way or the other — but the point is that BOTH sides get magabucks from your hated billionaires.

Of course, the same can’t be said about the downtrodden members of labor unions who MUST pay dues to benefit almost exclusively Democrats.

Seesaw, your attempt to claim this is a David-vs.-Goliath class warfare matter evaporates upon inspection. True for MOST of your posts, actually.

By: SeeSaw

SeeSaw — Sat, 13 Sep 2014 00:26:06 +0000

“Money is the mother’s milk of politics”. Who doesn’t know who made that statement in the past, and who doesn’t know that it is very true. You have the poor-to-middle-class rank and file workers banding together on one side and pooling their own money so that they can wield the political influence they need to wield if they are going to get a fair shake against management. Then, you have the politicans that are guided and influenced by the billionaires like Sheldon Adelson and the Koch Bros–people who don’t intend take care of anybody but the politicians that will vote in their interests and keep them richer than they ever need to be. I have never had trouble deciding which side I need to be on. Assembly-person Grove is still smarting because her initiative to cut the legislature to part-time did not make it to the ballot.

By: bob

bob — Fri, 12 Sep 2014 23:59:35 +0000

And wasn’t Big John Perez a public union organizer before he became a politician?

By: bob

bob — Fri, 12 Sep 2014 23:58:57 +0000

Demoncrats in bed with the public sector unions???

I’m shocked! Shocked, I tells ya!

Wasn’t Darrell Stinkbug a lawyer for a public union pac before he became a politician?

By: Richard Rider

Richard Rider — Fri, 12 Sep 2014 17:40:31 +0000

I don’t understand the Assemblywomen’s complaint, or the first sentence of this article. My response is — “This is news?”

A newsworthy story would be the one word modification of that first sentence to ask “Did a Democratic legislator NOT take labor union money in exchange for a union-sponsored bill?” Man bites dog!!

After all, does not EVERY Democrat state legislator take labor union money??? LOTS of labor union money? Every election?

Okay, okay — maybe not “take.” The usual ploy is that the unions spend big bucks on their loyal legislative sycophants via little-publicized “IE” (Independent Expenditure) campaigns. Yeah, there may be some union money illegally paid directly to legislators as well, but it pales into insignificance compared to the union campaign funding.

By: Queeg

Queeg — Fri, 12 Sep 2014 16:50:40 +0000

Let all go out and pay unions for a job and gain the benefits of this bill!

This is amazing.

Asset owners and contractors…..we can finally clean them both out.

We always knew these owners were part of the problem forcing us to work cheap with no benefits in unsafe work enviros…..and they call us names…….no free lunch…….no boom boxes……..and…and…and…

Isn’t California a great place to work. Can’t believe it!

By: T Mind of Ted Your God

T Mind of Ted Your God — Fri, 12 Sep 2014 04:45:06 +0000

Unions!

Darn workers want fair treatment– the gall!