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		By: SeeSaw		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SeeSaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2014 21:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not true.  The people at the table are all employees--they are not getting extra money above and beyond what is on the table for disbursement.  Any union reps and attorneys present are getting paid, of course--that is what they do for a living.  I was there for many years and got all my negotiated benefits--mathematically possible.  Bribery is what Rizzo did; bribery is what former CalPERS Board member Villalobos did; bribery is what Governor McDonald and Mrs. McDonald of Virginia did.  The normal collective bargaining process is not bribery.  If you don&#039;t believe in Collective Bargaining, there are many other states that don&#039;t allow  it and you can move there where you will be happy to make a lot less than you would make if you were in a union.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not true.  The people at the table are all employees&#8211;they are not getting extra money above and beyond what is on the table for disbursement.  Any union reps and attorneys present are getting paid, of course&#8211;that is what they do for a living.  I was there for many years and got all my negotiated benefits&#8211;mathematically possible.  Bribery is what Rizzo did; bribery is what former CalPERS Board member Villalobos did; bribery is what Governor McDonald and Mrs. McDonald of Virginia did.  The normal collective bargaining process is not bribery.  If you don&#8217;t believe in Collective Bargaining, there are many other states that don&#8217;t allow  it and you can move there where you will be happy to make a lot less than you would make if you were in a union.</p>
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		By: Dork		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/09/11/unions-bank-on-ca-for-new-gains/#comment-94467</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dork]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2014 19:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;We have a representative form of government. The taxpayers have elected representatives to make these decisions–that is their voice. The union negotiators assist the non-management reps in the process of negotiating with management &quot;

Close but not quite accurate:

We the Employer (taxpayers) hire a group of negotiators (elected Representatives) to negotiate a CONTRACT with OUR Employees, they secretly meet and hammer out a deal that is Mathematically Impossible to fulfill. Then as soon as the Ink is dry on said contract we find out that Every Last Negotiator was and is receiving MONEY from the very people they are supposedly negotiating with. Thereby rendering any such negotiation a farce. So what does that leave us??

1. A contract that &quot;requires&quot; future investment from future investors to pay for day to day expenses is the very definition of a PONZI SCHEME and Wholly Illegal.

2. They are guilty of Felony Collusion, Larceny and just plain old Bribery..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We have a representative form of government. The taxpayers have elected representatives to make these decisions–that is their voice. The union negotiators assist the non-management reps in the process of negotiating with management &#8221;</p>
<p>Close but not quite accurate:</p>
<p>We the Employer (taxpayers) hire a group of negotiators (elected Representatives) to negotiate a CONTRACT with OUR Employees, they secretly meet and hammer out a deal that is Mathematically Impossible to fulfill. Then as soon as the Ink is dry on said contract we find out that Every Last Negotiator was and is receiving MONEY from the very people they are supposedly negotiating with. Thereby rendering any such negotiation a farce. So what does that leave us??</p>
<p>1. A contract that &#8220;requires&#8221; future investment from future investors to pay for day to day expenses is the very definition of a PONZI SCHEME and Wholly Illegal.</p>
<p>2. They are guilty of Felony Collusion, Larceny and just plain old Bribery..</p>
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		By: Bill - San Jose		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/09/11/unions-bank-on-ca-for-new-gains/#comment-94420</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill - San Jose]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2014 04:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And Sacto wonders why the Tesla factory never had a chance here in CA instead of a right to work state like NV.

Too blinkin&#039; funny.

// my non-union company pays as good and better than most union outfits //

Next lie please.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Sacto wonders why the Tesla factory never had a chance here in CA instead of a right to work state like NV.</p>
<p>Too blinkin&#8217; funny.</p>
<p>// my non-union company pays as good and better than most union outfits //</p>
<p>Next lie please.</p>
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		By: Ulysses Uhaul		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/09/11/unions-bank-on-ca-for-new-gains/#comment-94232</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ulysses Uhaul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2014 04:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Saw

Appreciate any moving referrals that come your way-]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw</p>
<p>Appreciate any moving referrals that come your way-</p>
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		By: SeeSaw		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/09/11/unions-bank-on-ca-for-new-gains/#comment-94221</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SeeSaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2014 02:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/09/11/unions-bank-on-ca-for-new-gains/#comment-94213&quot;&gt;fletch92131&lt;/a&gt;.

We have a representative form of government.  The taxpayers have elected representatives to make these decisions--that is their voice.  The union negotiators assist the non-management reps in the process of negotiating with management.  If you don&#039;t like that, move to a right-to-work state where you and your children will be able to earn less than minimum wage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/09/11/unions-bank-on-ca-for-new-gains/#comment-94213">fletch92131</a>.</p>
<p>We have a representative form of government.  The taxpayers have elected representatives to make these decisions&#8211;that is their voice.  The union negotiators assist the non-management reps in the process of negotiating with management.  If you don&#8217;t like that, move to a right-to-work state where you and your children will be able to earn less than minimum wage.</p>
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		By: fletch92131		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2014 00:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[the cartoon couldn&#039;t of been more real;usually in these negotiations, the taxpayer doesn&#039;t really have a voice, he is lost in the crowd, as union negotiators bargain with themselves!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the cartoon couldn&#8217;t of been more real;usually in these negotiations, the taxpayer doesn&#8217;t really have a voice, he is lost in the crowd, as union negotiators bargain with themselves!</p>
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		By: Ulysses Uhaul		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/09/11/unions-bank-on-ca-for-new-gains/#comment-94210</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ulysses Uhaul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2014 23:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good thing about these articles they whip up and motivate lots of fearful residents clamoring for trailers and packing supplies....we expect a strong Fall.....

Keep up the good work writers!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thing about these articles they whip up and motivate lots of fearful residents clamoring for trailers and packing supplies&#8230;.we expect a strong Fall&#8230;..</p>
<p>Keep up the good work writers!</p>
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