While your handle is “Concernes SB citizen”, it sounds to me like you (or a family member) are (or will be) the recipient of a Public Sector pension ….. and don’t want it diminished.

There is simply ZERO justification for firefighter pensions that are now ROUTINELY 5+ times greater in value at retirement than those of comparable Private Sector workers retiring with the SAME pay, with the SAME service, and at the SAME age.

And YES, when factoring in BOTH the MUCH richer pension formulas AND the ridiculously generous (and hence VERY VERY costly)”provisions” (such as VERY young full-unreduced retirement ages, and COLA increases) they are indeed ROUTINELY 5+ times greater in value at retirement.

It’s WAY past time for this financial “mugging” of the Taxpayers to end … and for the future service of all CURRENT (not just NEW) workers.

The mutual exaggeration society.

– What a complete joke. The bankruptcy numbers should be cut by another 40 percent. FD jobs, based on the thousands of qualified candidates that routinely apply, and the very linear career path they’re afforded which rapidly accelerates their wages & pensions, and all the excessive paid leave they receive, and their very liberal rules regarding overtime (they get paid overtime even when they don’t work overtime, and the lack of fires – the FD, in just about city in the State of California – is the most overpaid and under utilized labor force with the highest cost, in every city.

The FD’s are also the most political, have the most endorsement clout (that is changing rapidly as more & more people understand they’ve been fleeced by FD PAC’s), spend the most money on their favored candidates that promise to approve their contract RAISES.

If the Public safety unions endorse a candidate taxpayers should vote the opposite – or at least question the motives of the public safety unions. Chances are the Publics Safety has nothing to do with the Public Safety Union (police & fire) endorsement of candidates, and more to do with police & fire hiring the people that will approve their next bloated contract.

But, “If the court-ordered changes are enacted, those amounts would be reduced, respectively, to about $163,400 and $142,760.

– What a complete joke. The bankruptcy numbers should be cut by another 40 percent. FD jobs, based on the thousands of qualified candidates that routinely apply, and the very linear career path they’re afforded which rapidly accelerates their wages & pensions, and all the excessive paid leave they receive, and their very liberal rules regarding overtime (they get paid overtime even when they don’t work overtime, and the lack of fires – the FD, in just about city in the State of California – is the most overpaid and under utilized labor force with the highest cost, in every city.

The FD’s are also the most political, have the most endorsement clout (that is changing rapidly as more & more people understand they’ve been screwed by FD PAC’s), spend the most money on their favored candidates that promise to approve their contract RAISES.

If the Public safety unions endorse a candidate taxpayers should vote the opposite – or at least question the motives of the public safety unions. Chances are the Publics Safety has nothing to do with the Public Safety Union (police & fire) endorsement of candidates, and more to do with police & fire hiring the people that will approve their next bloated contract.

No TL. Cops generally can’t get fired. That would violate POBOR. Besides, it’s really difficult to find HS grad replacements for a compensation north of $200,000/sarc.

Did you read that after the Rialto cops were forced to wear body cameras that the incidences of police abuse and citizen complaints dropped by about 60%? hah. Gee, what a surprise, eh? Who woulda figured? 😀

Every single badge wearing and gun toting cop in America should be forced to wear a body camera.

Now the excuse used is that body cameras cost too much. But if the body cameras would prevent $4M judgements and settlements for bad shootings and police abuse – the program would pay for itself. But the pols are getting paid off by the unions to sustain the status-quo and protect the bad cops – so this will be a very slow work in progress.

That should be responded to with a Ronald Regan moment …. fire them ALL.