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		By: Beccera As Attorney General &#124; Attorney General legal definition of Attorney General		</title>
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		By: LetitCollapse		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/09/15/support-for-death-penalty-drops/#comment-94899</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 22:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/09/15/support-for-death-penalty-drops/#comment-94895&quot;&gt;SoCalSteve&lt;/a&gt;.

Easy solution for that. On the same network broadcast prior to the execution show photographs of the bodies of the murderer&#039;s victims and explain in detail how they were murdered. I bet support for the death penalty would skyrocket! 

For any issue it&#039;s ALWAYS important to tell (or show) BOTH sides to the story. Otherwise it becomes nothing more than propoganda. 

Murderers like Dekraai should meet the same fate as those they murdered. What&#039;s fair is fair.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/09/15/support-for-death-penalty-drops/#comment-94895">SoCalSteve</a>.</p>
<p>Easy solution for that. On the same network broadcast prior to the execution show photographs of the bodies of the murderer&#8217;s victims and explain in detail how they were murdered. I bet support for the death penalty would skyrocket! </p>
<p>For any issue it&#8217;s ALWAYS important to tell (or show) BOTH sides to the story. Otherwise it becomes nothing more than propoganda. </p>
<p>Murderers like Dekraai should meet the same fate as those they murdered. What&#8217;s fair is fair.</p>
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		By: SoCalSteve		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 21:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with you about TV.  But take it one step further.  Put it on regular TV so everyone…not just people who get off on such things…gets to see what a real execution looks like.   A lot of the people who pontificate about executing people don&#039;t have the cajones to actually watch it happen. You put it on a network, betcha support for the death penalty will drop like a rock.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you about TV.  But take it one step further.  Put it on regular TV so everyone…not just people who get off on such things…gets to see what a real execution looks like.   A lot of the people who pontificate about executing people don&#8217;t have the cajones to actually watch it happen. You put it on a network, betcha support for the death penalty will drop like a rock.</p>
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		By: Ted		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/09/15/support-for-death-penalty-drops/#comment-94886</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 20:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/09/15/support-for-death-penalty-drops/#comment-94779&quot;&gt;Donkey&lt;/a&gt;.

LOL   NOW the Duncey is a 6th A. expert!

You go girl!   LOL]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/09/15/support-for-death-penalty-drops/#comment-94779">Donkey</a>.</p>
<p>LOL   NOW the Duncey is a 6th A. expert!</p>
<p>You go girl!   LOL</p>
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		By: LetitCollapse		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/09/15/support-for-death-penalty-drops/#comment-94821</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 00:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;This is NOT about whether Scott Dekraai should be executed.&quot;

It most certainly is. This is a discussion about the death penalty. 

&quot;It is about fixing our system so that thousands of people who are unnecessarily jailed for minor crimes are moved out of prison.&quot;

I totally agree. But it&#039;s got nothing to do with the death penalty. Oh, and I don&#039;t read Gingrich op-eds. I&#039;m old enough to remember what a scam artist and political hypocrite he was while in office. His wife was dying of cancer while he was doing floosies on the side, then he had the nerve to talk &#039;family values&#039;. I can&#039;t stand the guy. Why would I care about what he thinks, let alone read his opinions?

We simply need to take cold-blooded murderers like Scott Dekraai and execute them within 3-5 years of conviction. Simple. That would save many millions of dollars. There is NO DOUBT WHATSOEVER that Dekraai murdered EIGHT innocent people. Why let him live? Let him have ONE appeal then kill him, preferrably the same way he murdered his victims. And if they showed it on pay-TV I&#039;d watch it too. Dekraai is a scumbag and doesn&#039;t deserve to have a pulse. 

You are talking PRISON REFORM. Not DEATH PENALTY REFORM. Stay on topic. The article is about the death penalty. Most of us are for PRISON REFORM. Haven&#039;t you heard about AB 109? They are letting inmates out way before their sentence is up. Isn&#039;t that what you want? Would you still be for prison reform if an ex-convict hurt or murdered a loved one of yours? Just curious?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is NOT about whether Scott Dekraai should be executed.&#8221;</p>
<p>It most certainly is. This is a discussion about the death penalty. </p>
<p>&#8220;It is about fixing our system so that thousands of people who are unnecessarily jailed for minor crimes are moved out of prison.&#8221;</p>
<p>I totally agree. But it&#8217;s got nothing to do with the death penalty. Oh, and I don&#8217;t read Gingrich op-eds. I&#8217;m old enough to remember what a scam artist and political hypocrite he was while in office. His wife was dying of cancer while he was doing floosies on the side, then he had the nerve to talk &#8216;family values&#8217;. I can&#8217;t stand the guy. Why would I care about what he thinks, let alone read his opinions?</p>
<p>We simply need to take cold-blooded murderers like Scott Dekraai and execute them within 3-5 years of conviction. Simple. That would save many millions of dollars. There is NO DOUBT WHATSOEVER that Dekraai murdered EIGHT innocent people. Why let him live? Let him have ONE appeal then kill him, preferrably the same way he murdered his victims. And if they showed it on pay-TV I&#8217;d watch it too. Dekraai is a scumbag and doesn&#8217;t deserve to have a pulse. </p>
<p>You are talking PRISON REFORM. Not DEATH PENALTY REFORM. Stay on topic. The article is about the death penalty. Most of us are for PRISON REFORM. Haven&#8217;t you heard about AB 109? They are letting inmates out way before their sentence is up. Isn&#8217;t that what you want? Would you still be for prison reform if an ex-convict hurt or murdered a loved one of yours? Just curious?</p>
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		By: SoCalSteve		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2014 23:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/09/15/support-for-death-penalty-drops/#comment-94799&quot;&gt;LetitCollapse&lt;/a&gt;.

Obviously, you didn&#039;t read Gingrich&#039;s op-ed.  This is NOT about whether Scott Dekraai should be executed.  It is about fixing our system so that thousands of people who are unnecessarily jailed for minor crimes are moved out of prison. THAT will save taxpayers billions of dollars.  

When I speak of the Vengeance Lobby, I speak of those whose default position is always incarceration.  You know, those whose answer to everything is &quot;lock em up and throw away the key.&quot;  No rehabilitation, no parole, no forgiveness.  And, whenever possible, execute them. Whenever someone tries to reform the system so not everyone is locked away to rot, the Vengeance Lobby accuses them of being soft on crime.  You know, left-wing Socialists like Newt Gingrich. 

And we won&#039;t even talk about all the people who have been on death row for years but are ultimately exonerated due to new DNA evidence and such. I guess we should have just gone ahead and executed them anyway and then said &quot;ooops.&quot;   SMH]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/09/15/support-for-death-penalty-drops/#comment-94799">LetitCollapse</a>.</p>
<p>Obviously, you didn&#8217;t read Gingrich&#8217;s op-ed.  This is NOT about whether Scott Dekraai should be executed.  It is about fixing our system so that thousands of people who are unnecessarily jailed for minor crimes are moved out of prison. THAT will save taxpayers billions of dollars.  </p>
<p>When I speak of the Vengeance Lobby, I speak of those whose default position is always incarceration.  You know, those whose answer to everything is &#8220;lock em up and throw away the key.&#8221;  No rehabilitation, no parole, no forgiveness.  And, whenever possible, execute them. Whenever someone tries to reform the system so not everyone is locked away to rot, the Vengeance Lobby accuses them of being soft on crime.  You know, left-wing Socialists like Newt Gingrich. </p>
<p>And we won&#8217;t even talk about all the people who have been on death row for years but are ultimately exonerated due to new DNA evidence and such. I guess we should have just gone ahead and executed them anyway and then said &#8220;ooops.&#8221;   SMH</p>
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		By: LetitCollapse		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/09/15/support-for-death-penalty-drops/#comment-94799</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2014 18:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Despite the wails of protest from the Vengeance Lobby, the vast majority of Californians understand that our entire corrections system needs fixing to keep those who are dangerous in prison, move those who aren’t out, and save taxpayers billions of dollars.&quot;

How is keeping dirtbag murderers like Scott Dekraai (who murdered 8 people in cold blood) housed in prison with free food, free medical care, free books, free TV, free conjugal visits (if he can find a willing partner)for 30 years or more saving us money? We just need to reform the death penalty law so that we execute dirtbags like Dekraii within 5 years of his conviction. There is NO DOUBT that Dekraai murdered 8 people! HE CONFESSED TO IT AND WAS CAPTURED RIGHT AFTER THE MURDERS WITH THE SMOKING GUN!!!!

Why not have some compassion for the family of the victims!!! For the small children who lost their moms and dads???

I bet you supported our military going into Afghanistan to kill Bin Laden and the terrorists involved in the destruction of the World Trade Centers and the murder of 3000 people, weren&#039;t you? That&#039;s vengeance, isn&#039;t it? At that time did you claim that the &quot;Vengeance Lobby&quot; was behind our troops hunting down the terrorists??

Yet you oppose executing cold-blooded murderers like Dekraai? 

Your argument makes no sense to me. None at all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Despite the wails of protest from the Vengeance Lobby, the vast majority of Californians understand that our entire corrections system needs fixing to keep those who are dangerous in prison, move those who aren’t out, and save taxpayers billions of dollars.&#8221;</p>
<p>How is keeping dirtbag murderers like Scott Dekraai (who murdered 8 people in cold blood) housed in prison with free food, free medical care, free books, free TV, free conjugal visits (if he can find a willing partner)for 30 years or more saving us money? We just need to reform the death penalty law so that we execute dirtbags like Dekraii within 5 years of his conviction. There is NO DOUBT that Dekraai murdered 8 people! HE CONFESSED TO IT AND WAS CAPTURED RIGHT AFTER THE MURDERS WITH THE SMOKING GUN!!!!</p>
<p>Why not have some compassion for the family of the victims!!! For the small children who lost their moms and dads???</p>
<p>I bet you supported our military going into Afghanistan to kill Bin Laden and the terrorists involved in the destruction of the World Trade Centers and the murder of 3000 people, weren&#8217;t you? That&#8217;s vengeance, isn&#8217;t it? At that time did you claim that the &#8220;Vengeance Lobby&#8221; was behind our troops hunting down the terrorists??</p>
<p>Yet you oppose executing cold-blooded murderers like Dekraai? </p>
<p>Your argument makes no sense to me. None at all.</p>
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		By: SoCalSteve		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/09/15/support-for-death-penalty-drops/#comment-94793</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2014 17:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Despite the wails of protest from the Vengeance Lobby,  the vast majority of Californians understand that our entire corrections system needs fixing to keep those who are dangerous in prison, move those who aren&#039;t out, and save taxpayers billions of dollars. Even a great &quot;liberal&quot; like Newt Gingrich recognizes that the Red States are doing the right thing to reform the system and that California needs to follow suit.   http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0917-gingrich-prop--47-criminal-justice-20140917-story.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite the wails of protest from the Vengeance Lobby,  the vast majority of Californians understand that our entire corrections system needs fixing to keep those who are dangerous in prison, move those who aren&#8217;t out, and save taxpayers billions of dollars. Even a great &#8220;liberal&#8221; like Newt Gingrich recognizes that the Red States are doing the right thing to reform the system and that California needs to follow suit.   <a href="http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0917-gingrich-prop--47-criminal-justice-20140917-story.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0917-gingrich-prop&#8211;47-criminal-justice-20140917-story.html</a></p>
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		By: LetitCollapse		</title>
		<link>https://calwatchdog.com/2014/09/15/support-for-death-penalty-drops/#comment-94785</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2014 16:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://calwatchdog.com/2014/09/15/support-for-death-penalty-drops/#comment-94779&quot;&gt;Donkey&lt;/a&gt;.

Donk, just curious. You&#039;ve heard about the mass murderer Scott Dekraii who murdered 8 people during a shooting in Orange County, right?

Do you really think he deserves the right to exist in this world after what he did? To eat, to watch tv, to read, to exercise, to socialize, or engage in any other little pleasure in life? Imagine the pain Dekraii caused to all the family members of the desceased victims, who were in NO WAY connected to the problems that he had with his ex-wife - to include small children who lost their moms and dads forever. 

There is NO DOUBT that Dekraii committed those incredibly senseless murders.  He was captured minutes afterwards and confessed to it. Do you think he deserves to live?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://calwatchdog.com/2014/09/15/support-for-death-penalty-drops/#comment-94779">Donkey</a>.</p>
<p>Donk, just curious. You&#8217;ve heard about the mass murderer Scott Dekraii who murdered 8 people during a shooting in Orange County, right?</p>
<p>Do you really think he deserves the right to exist in this world after what he did? To eat, to watch tv, to read, to exercise, to socialize, or engage in any other little pleasure in life? Imagine the pain Dekraii caused to all the family members of the desceased victims, who were in NO WAY connected to the problems that he had with his ex-wife &#8211; to include small children who lost their moms and dads forever. </p>
<p>There is NO DOUBT that Dekraii committed those incredibly senseless murders.  He was captured minutes afterwards and confessed to it. Do you think he deserves to live?</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2014 15:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The way the state runs its &quot;justice system&quot; behooves all still with their ability to use logic and reason to reject the death penalty by the state. 
  I have been a witness for a criminal case that has been going on for two years now. I have received filings, notices, dates, close to one hundred pieces, with no end in sight. There was a reason the sixth Amendment called for &quot;speedy and public trials,&quot; what we have now is nothing short of a circus act. 
  The &quot;system&quot; we have now is not just to un-connected citizens. It should be seeking the truth as to what crime was committed, not spinning stories and scenarios drudged up in the ID of the police and DA&#039;s, many of which are sociopaths, drunk with power.  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way the state runs its &#8220;justice system&#8221; behooves all still with their ability to use logic and reason to reject the death penalty by the state.<br />
  I have been a witness for a criminal case that has been going on for two years now. I have received filings, notices, dates, close to one hundred pieces, with no end in sight. There was a reason the sixth Amendment called for &#8220;speedy and public trials,&#8221; what we have now is nothing short of a circus act.<br />
  The &#8220;system&#8221; we have now is not just to un-connected citizens. It should be seeking the truth as to what crime was committed, not spinning stories and scenarios drudged up in the ID of the police and DA&#8217;s, many of which are sociopaths, drunk with power.  🙂</p>
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