1) Six is too much. I am not sure why they think the idea of that many would fly. It won’t.

I kind of like a state of ‘California’ that starts at Santa Barbara County and goes south and east to Mexico from there (capital Santa Barbara), ‘Alta California’ that is the entire inland region, Valley and Sierras, from there north, and over to the coast at Humboldt County (capital Sacramento), and then maybe ‘Pacifica’ (tentative name) of all the coastal counties west of the valley from Mendocino to San Luis Obisbo, including all Bay Area counties (capital Monterey). Three states, three viable regions.

2) That six state plan actually calls for the name of my home, San Jose, to be the center of a state actually and literally called ‘Silicon Valley’. I might have heard a stupider idea in my lifetime at some point, but I can’t for the life of me think of when. The idea is kind of like saying, “Hey, the kids have been calling Jeffy ‘T-Bone’ for a while now. Let’s go to court and change his name legally to ‘T-Bone’! I mean, c’mon, he’s T-Booooonnnnnnne, right?”

Idiotic.

But I do think something along these lines is ripe for some serious, and CALM, DISPASSIONATE discussion, where words like “Trump”, “Democrat”, and “Republican” do NOT enter into the conversation.

Outstanding comments.

Why wouldn’t it be easier just to split the state into six parts and have 12 senators up there to really effect the legislation?

But that is too easy.

I would note that a Republican government that is reasonably true to its ideals would be FAR less likely to “impose upon you” then a Democratic government of the coasts and cities is inclined to impose upon the rest of the country from it.

A viable solution here, and I know it sounds like krazy krazy talk, is to consider what a bunch of be-wigged gentlemen devised about 240 years ago. A mutually beneficial union of 50 SOVERIEGN STATES, with the Federal Government doing as minimal as is reasonably possible.

If California thinks it can be the first place in history to make socialism work, well, let’s see what you got. California does not need to elect Democrats that insist on making Idaho and Oklahoma socialist as well. Meanwhile, a conservative president and congress, if true to their ideals, can make a real nuisance of themselves constantly going around and leaving everybody alone.

As a California ex-pat with a boot firmly in both camps, I can say that the fact is, the system works, and very well. It’s this unfathomably voracious and ever-growing federal government that is the problem. And it is not lost on us that, Democrats having done all they can to foster that growth, are now deeply terrified as though it never occurred to them that that immensely powerful entity that THEY joyfully created (but not alone) might come under “hostile” control.

But who, who, WHO could EVER have considered that such a thing could happen? Oh yeah, those be-wigged guys, 240 years ago. THEY figured that out.

I submit that secession is NOT about control over your lives or your state. It’s just that you hate, loathe and despise “those” people, as the left has never existed in history without an enemy to agitate against. And, yes, human nature as it is, all to many on the other side return that hate, Like P.O.S. (heh) up there (though not as many as you like to tell yourselves), making it ugly all around, but it we STOPPED assuming some singular government entity and an immense army of bureaucrats can control everyone and everything, enormous progress could made to reduce that.

If only someone have ever thought that way before now!

Oh, yeah….. they did.

How impressive the eloquence of your argument, the quality of which must only rival that of your apparent intelligence.

You read me so well – I’ll leave it with that, because it’s difficult, if not impossible to argue with someone who’s mind is so obviously bent and full of misinformation and simple ignorance. There in little in your tirade that is not of popular but unfounded paranoid conspiracy theory.

Do you really believe that anyone can vote with just a driver’s license?
And your homophobia – well we know where that comes from, don’t we?

As for your threat – well, sad to say, it may come to that. You claim your advantage of being armed, while we are generally not – true enough, but that advantage would be short termed. If you have ever been in combat then you probably know how brief that advantage might be, and how quickly it all can end.

You brought three million illegal aliens into this state and gave them drivers’ licenses, you evil scumbag.

You then passed nice progressive legislation to thoughtfully register everyone to vote when they GOT their driver’s license, you evil scumbag.

When you did that, you evil scumbag, you disenfranchised the entire northern third of the state. You also disenfranchised the entire states of Montana and Wyoming in the electoral college. You did it in broad daylight with a big sunny smile on your face. It was the biggest act of electoral fraud in American history, and you got away with it.

You applaud and subsidize parents who geld medically healthy boys and send them to school in dresses. You import foreign workers to be trained by the Americans they are replacing. You put sodomy on the marriage altar and turn our public spaces into homeless encampments, but pass Jim Crow laws against anyone who owns the wrong kind of inanimate object that goes bang. You decline to put the smashmouth power of the state on the border or in the killing fields of our inner cities, but you will put it in my house, and are okay with me getting my brains blown out in the middle of the night by a SWAT team with a no-knock warrant if I refuse to comply with your unConstitutional diktats.

And the first time the country at large rebukes you, you child-gelding vote-rigging postmodern beast, you start whining and hair-pulling and weeping and wailing over the tyranny of those nasty rural people who grow the organic veggies you buy at the farmer’s market.

Any time you evil scumbags want to secede, do it. I welcome it. Because us red-staters will secede from you on the very first day. We are armed and you are not.

Say when. Scumbag.

YES!!! Nevada should come with you. I’m so tired of people in rural communities have more of a voice than us.

They may as well be another country, and saying that, We may as well be another country.

Secession is very difficult, to say the least – but there is no other state better positioned than California to succeed in this.

Apparently California is currently the sixth largest economy in the world. We are completely self-sufficient in industry and agriculture, in fact we export most of our product to the rest of the country and the world. We have the largest population among the states. We have the largest coastline and major harbors, and there for better exposed to world commerce.
In short, we have everything we need to be an independent country.
Most importantly, the West Coast lives a life style that seems to irritate some of those to the east of us. Now it looks like the Federal government may succeed in imposing upon us in a way that we may find impossible to bear.

Still, if it comes to that, we must work to make the break legally and peacefully, but always with the understanding that it my not end that way.

Of course, California is not alone on the West Coast, there are Washington and Oregon – also blue states. All of similar life styles and indeed history, the ultimate destination of all those pioneer families who left the East for the progressive West.

It is possible to form a Blue State Union – the entire West Coast.
If it were to go this far you might see the addition of other blue states – Hawaii, Nevada, and if that, even Colorado – Blue State Nation!

England would be better off without the burden of Scotland and the USA would be (much) better off without California.

The USA should give California all of the federally-owned lands in CA, including Yosemite, in return for 99-year leases on all military bases, and a mutual defense pact.