Comments on: Poll: Californians think higher ed is too expensive, love the quality

By: Queeg

Queeg — Sat, 10 Dec 2016 17:35:50 +0000

Comrades

The key to California is a career/ vocation not influenced by slaver Globalists and totally portable to anywhere.

I know a young man who wasted five years of his life in Cal State Universities and one year becoming a Microsoft engineer type…..

He sits on top of the world!

By: Pop's

Pop's — Sat, 10 Dec 2016 04:14:46 +0000

In reply to eck.

That’s for sure!
Plus they don’t teach any wisdom… lots of knowledge but no wisdom…

By: eck

eck — Sat, 10 Dec 2016 03:44:03 +0000

If most Californians were aware of how little many of the graduates of these institutions knew, they might change their mind about the quality. I have contact with many recent CA college grads. Most have been infused with doctrine, not knowledge. Especially compared with grads of 20-30 years ago. Appalling.

By: Lansing

Lansing — Fri, 09 Dec 2016 23:17:05 +0000

I was born in Southern California in 1950, I have seen the problems grow greater and greater, especially since the 1960’s. Generally now, we are now under the leadership of the hippy generation, the generation that was unable to think critically, the generation with no morals, no ethics and no nothing.. we’ve, (America) been going downhill for 35+ years now and will continue to do so. Life was much more stable growing up around the people of the depression and WWII, they actually had to grow up early on in their lives..

By: Pop's

Pop's — Fri, 09 Dec 2016 23:15:56 +0000

By: fredtyg

fredtyg — Fri, 09 Dec 2016 17:23:12 +0000

I might add, if education through high school was proper, kids would know how to read, write and do math. As it is, they apparently don’t.

I had a friend who was college- centric. I pointed out the above to which he replied, “High school is where you learn to learn. College is where you actually learn”. That seems to me to be part of our cultural problem with college.

By: fredtyg

fredtyg — Fri, 09 Dec 2016 17:20:26 +0000

The high price of college education is only a big deal if you think college is a necessity. I’d suggest most jobs can be handled without a college education. Some jobs may require a college education, but they can still be done without one, but that’s a cultural problem in that everyone thinks they need to go to college.

An example comes to mind. I have two nephews with the same parents. Their father was big on college so paid for #1’s college education and #1 graduated.

He insisted #2 go to college but #2 refused in a family squabble in which I took part and said #2 shouldn’t feel the need to go to college.

Fast forward years later. Nephew #1, with the college degree, is unemployed with no plans to get a job and can’t even feed himself. He’s 42 and still eating at his parent’s house.

#2 moved out of the area, started a band and is making his own way on musical tours.

I’m sure there are many similar examples to be found.

By: Richard Rider

Richard Rider — Fri, 09 Dec 2016 06:46:39 +0000

Yes, most Californians think higher education is too expensive. They know this is true because that’s what the media tells them. And the media in not in the business of investigative journalism — not hardly?

Almost no one knows the facts. Let me help.

To start with, our public colleges tuition is NOT high compared to the other states. But that’s just for starters. Consider:

California, a destitute state, still gives away community college education at fire sale prices. Our CC tuition and fees are the lowest in the nation. How low? Nationwide, the average community college tuition and fees are more than double our California CC’s.
http://trends.collegeboard.org/college-pricing/figures-tables/tuition-and-fees-sector-and-state-over-time

This ridiculously low CC tuition devalues education to students – often resulting in a 25+% drop rate for class completion in the liberal arts courses. In addition, because of grants and tax credits, up to 2/3 of California CC students pay no net tuition at all!
http://tinyurl.com/ygqz9ls

Complaints about increased UC student fees too often ignore a key point — all poor and many middle class CA students don’t pay the UC “fees” (our state’s euphemism for tuition). There are no fees for most California families with under $80K income. 55% of all undergraduate CA UC students pay zero tuition, and another 14% pay only partial tuition. http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/blueandgold/
and
tinyurl.com/UC-zero