CA taxes 150% higher than Washington state’s — to what benefit?

CA taxes 150% higher than Washington state’s — to what benefit?

taxesA new survey of state and local taxes finds California and New York take the biggest bite out of their residents’ pocketbooks. The average Californian forks over $9,509 a year; the average New Yorker, $9,718.

Alas, the mainstream media coverage of the report features the usual superficiality. There’s no context — no noting that most economists consider heavy taxes a drag on the economy, or that conservative think tanks have documented how California’s tax and regulatory culture is a big reason the Golden State has the nation’s worst poverty rate.

There’s also no contrasting of California and New York. In the Empire State, the liberal governor actually has the intellectual honesty to admit higher taxes damage job creation — and he wants to doย something about it. Can we trade Jerry Brown for Andrew Cuomo?

A liberal state with lower taxes than Texas

There’s also this interesting angle: Whenever a libertarian or conservative grouses about how high taxes are in California, a liberal will sneer something along the lines of, “Well, why don’t you go to Texas/Mississippi/Alabama? Low taxes and such a great, great, great lifestyle.”

But it’s not just allegedly benighted Southern states that have far lower taxes than California. For the most striking example, consider Washington state. Its average annual state and local tax tab, according to the new survey, is $3,823. California takes in 150 percent more! Texas takes 34 percent more!

Do Californians have vastly better services than Washington staters? Of course not. Also, most “quality of life” indices put Washington far ahead of California.

One reason WA avoids traps seen in CA: ‘paycheck protection’ law

Life_ProtectYourPaycheck_final2Why might this be? A key factor is that Washington state voters adopted a law requiring that union members give permission before their dues are used for political advocacy. I wrote about it here:

“Six states have adopted such a reform. Easily the most liberal of the six is Washington, where voters adopted this requirement as part of a popular campaign-reform push in 1992 that was opposed by unions but supported by many union members.

“What followed was a relentless 15-year campaign of subterfuge and sabotage by unions and their Democratic allies in Washingtonโ€™s legislature and court system. But in 2007, the U.S. Supreme Court cleared the way for implementation of the law following its original intent.

“Since then, the politics of the state have evolved in interesting ways. While voters embraced gay marriage and the legalization of marijuana in 2012 initiatives, they are increasingly represented by more pragmatic and less ideological Democrats. In spring 2012, such Democrats teamed with minority Republican senators to pass a fiscally conservative state budget. Later in the year, two Democrats decided to caucus with minority Republicans in a coalition running the state Senate in an attempt to force a more centrist course for Washington, which has had Democratic governors continuously since 1985.

“Perhaps these moderating developments would have happened without paycheck protection. But they would have been less likely. In Washington state politics, the same as everywhere, money talks.”

Here’s another survey placing Washington at the low end of taxation.

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  1. S Moderation Douglas
    S Moderation Douglas 21 March, 2014, 13:03

    I don’t have time right now to find the reason for the discrepancy, but another source says the per capita state plus local tax revenue for Washington state in 2011 was $4,160. California in 2011 was $4,914.

    Not 150%.

    Before you ask the question “to what benefit”, verify the 150%.

    AFK

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    • Donkey
      Donkey 21 March, 2014, 16:09

      In 2014 California’s average was $9,509 SMD, which is 150% more than a citizen in Washington paid. Just the facts my RAGWUS feeding friend. ๐Ÿ™‚

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      • S Moderation Douglas
        S Moderation Douglas 21 March, 2014, 17:53

        Its always been fun reading CWD. Well, interesting, anyway.

        To put it bluntly, 150% more is sensationalist bullsquat.

        If you bother reading the link, $9,509 is not the *average*,

        quote:

        ” we analyzed national spending patterns and tax return data to determine a baseline national tax profile to which we could compare each state.”

        And it is SO FAR OFF the averages and per capita figures of ALL other studies, it is totally lacking in credibility.

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        • Rex the Wonder Dog!
          Rex the Wonder Dog! 21 March, 2014, 18:18

          S Moderation Douglas says:

          Please take “Moderation” out of your handle, it is false advertising ๐Ÿ˜‰

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          • SeeSaw
            SeeSaw 21 March, 2014, 18:40

            Nothing false about you putting forth yourself as an adorable Lab, is there Rex…..The pit bull looks more like you…..and then there’s “Wildgurl”–talk about false advertising!

          • Rex the Wonder Dog!
            Rex the Wonder Dog! 24 March, 2014, 00:20

            seesaw, you better watch your mouthy fingers with those comments….and the WG has gone on vacation!

            BTW- I am not a Lab or a Pittie, I am a Rottie!!!!!!!!!

          • Ted Steele, CEO
            Ted Steele, CEO 24 March, 2014, 06:50

            LOL— Oh you’re a poodle little buddy—– a small, yippy, female poodle…..LOL

            Ju Jitsu!!!!!!! Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiii ya internet tough girl!

        • Donkey
          Donkey 21 March, 2014, 20:43

          SMD, you have lost all your street cred!!! ๐Ÿ™‚

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  2. S Moderation Douglas
    S Moderation Douglas 21 March, 2014, 14:50

    Tax Policy says in 2011, state plus local expenditures per capita were $9,383 for California vs $8,459 for Washington state.

    That’s about eleven per cent more in spending.

    Carl Sagan said Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

    That 150% difference needs some explaining.

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    • Sean
      Sean 21 March, 2014, 16:20

      At least part of the difference is that in 2011, there was no millionaires tax. That one levy along raised CA’s revenues by ~6% after 2012 or 13. Additionally, Washington State does not have income taxes so investment income is not a strong player in their revenue. California on the other hand gets 60% of its revenue from high earners and the market (S&P 500) in 2011 began and ended the year in the 1270’s. 2013 on the other hand saw market gains of more than 30% and the proportion of CA’s income taxes raised from the very wealthy approached 66%. Even Amazon chipped in when they (and others) started collecting sales taxes for online purchases in 2012.
      With the volatility of California’s tax revenues tied to the fortunes of the very wealthy, I suspect if you had 2013 numbers, the 150% might not seem so out of line.

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      • S Moderation Douglas
        S Moderation Douglas 21 March, 2014, 18:19

        Millionaires tax will account for very little change in the average tax burden.

        150% greater “average tax” is not just out of line, it’s virtually impossible.

        Even MORE interesting, compare the state/local tax burden of the different income levels in California and Washington state. (interesting choice, by the way, Mr. Reed.)

        California lowest quintile ( ave income $13,000)…tax burden….10.6%
        Washington lowest quintile ( ave income $11,500)…tax burden….16.9%

        California highest quintile ( ave income $290,000)…..tax burden…. 8.7%
        Washington highest quintile ( ave income $249,600)…tax burden…..4.7%

        It sure don’t pay to be poor in Washington.

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        • A resident from ca
          A resident from ca 27 February, 2017, 10:29

          S moder- you’re only looking at income taxes…. that doesn’t include all the excise, property, use, sales, and any other tax the once great state of ca has in place.

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  3. Donkey
    Donkey 21 March, 2014, 16:01

    And here is the main reason our taxes are so high:
    “Instead of relying on the assertions of union officials about how underpaid government employees might be, citizens can see what these employees are actually making. In thousands of cases, the information is shocking.

    Consider Redwood City, where three fire captains and one firefighter made between $434,274 and $452,733 in total compensation in 2012. One police officer made $463,690 in total compensation. In all, nine employees made over $400,000 in total compensation with a total of 33, mostly police and fire department employees, making over $300,000 in total compensation in 2012.

    Those are staggering sums anywhere, but in a city with a population of just 79,009, theyโ€™re a recipe for fiscal disaster.

    Redwood City is hardly alone. The city manager in Temecula, population of 105,208, made over $497,000, while the advisor to the city manager made over $436,000, both in total compensation. The Fire Battalion chief in the city of Milpitas, population of 68,800, had a compensation package that topped $494,000 in 2012.

    Then thereโ€™s the Orthopedic Surgeon in Kern County who took home over $1 million in pay and benefits in 2012.

    While compensation for public employees keeps driving up taxes, itโ€™s also pushing California tuition sky high. Two University of California Directors made over $900,000 each in 2012, excluding the cost of any benefits. Thousands of UC and California State University employees made over $200,000 in 2012, excluding benefits.

    From the stateโ€™s top positions to those at the bottom, Transparent California makes it easy for citizens to find inflated salaries and benefits for many public employees. A Monterey County Secretary made over $146,000. An Alameda County sheriff took home over $541,000. The Parks and Recreation Directors in San Jose, Santa Rosa, Cupertino and San Mateo each made over $240,000.

    Thousands of firefighters and cops made over $200,000 in salary and benefits in 2012, with hundreds taking home over $300,000.”

    Go to this website to see just how much the private sector citizens are paying for the RAGWUS elite: http://transparentcalifornia.com/ ๐Ÿ™‚

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    • Rex the Wonder Dog!
      Rex the Wonder Dog! 21 March, 2014, 18:17

      Consider Redwood City, where three fire captains and one firefighter made between $434,274 and $452,733 in total compensation in 2012. One police officer made $463,690 in total compensation. In all, nine employees made over $400,000 in total compensation with a total of 33, mostly police and fire department employees, making over $300,000 in total compensation in 2012.

      Donk, you left out the BEST part- those are GED jobs!!!!

      Also Donk, they are hero’s and deserve ๐Ÿ™‚

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      • Gregor
        Gregor 5 October, 2015, 10:29

        First Responders should be well paid but 400K is abusive of all taxpayers. Teachers are heroes too and yet we cap the salaries of dedicated teachers with advanced degrees and 20 yrs experience to 70-80K. Shameful!

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  4. SeeSaw
    SeeSaw 21 March, 2014, 17:42

    Don’t forget to mention that property taxes in WA a couple times higher than similar property in CA–it is three times higher in WA if you are using a property comparison where the CA property is still original 13. There is no state income tax in WA, groceries cost more there than in CA. It all comes down to where a person wants to live. I could move to WA and hold my state income tax if I wanted–I choose to live in CA.

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    • John Seiler
      John Seiler 21 March, 2014, 17:46

      True on property tax. But a friend of mine just moved there and got a nice house in Everett overlooking Puget Sound for $100K. Same thing in Orange County would be $600K.

      So, if property taxes are 3X value in WA than in CA, but housing is 1/6, then your actual property tax bill for a new house is 1/2 in WA that in CA.

      Of course, that’s for new owners. If you got in under Prop. 13 back in 1978, in CA you’re paying $300 a year.

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  5. SeeSaw
    SeeSaw 21 March, 2014, 17:49

    I’ve used Transparent CA to look up the information for one person, Donkey–me. That’s why you are stressing out so much.

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    • S Moderation Douglas
      S Moderation Douglas 21 March, 2014, 19:03

      I looked up some when I read the original Redwood City firefighter story, SeeSaw.

      The headline was that three firefighters made over $400,000…..A YEAR!!!

      Subtle but important semantic point; they “made” over $400,000 …..ONE year, the year they retired.

      From the tone of the article, the author was aware of this, but carefully worded the story for maximum effect, leaving wiggle room for plausible deniability.

      One may not agree with the principle of cashing out vacation, but firefighters in Redwood City do not routinely make over $400,000.

      Please note the quote cited by the donkey:

      ” Those are staggering sums anywhere, but in a city with a population of just 79,009, theyโ€™re a recipe for fiscal disaster.”

      The author is very familiar with California and should know the relevant factor in Redwood City salaries is not the size, but the location. One of the most expensive areas in the state.

      It’s called spin, and those who choose to believe it will blindly accept it.

      Much like this one:

      ” consider Washington state. Its average annual state and local tax tab, according to the new survey, is $3,823. California takes in 150 percent more! ”

      Easily nominated for first place award for journalistic incompetence 2014.

      And the winner is…………..CWD!!!

      http://bizbeatblog.dallasnews.com/2014/03/wallethub-state-by-state-tax-ranking-has-faulty-premise.html/

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      • Skippingdog
        Skippingdog 21 March, 2014, 20:28

        You know that Donkey and Rex never let something as inconsequential to them as “facts” get in the way of their rants. Apparently such a basic concern for most journalists as “getting the facts right” no longer enters into any of Chris Reed’s agenda-driven screeds either.

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        • Donkey
          Donkey 21 March, 2014, 20:49

          The RAGWUS feeders Pay, Pensions, and Benefits can all be verified at: http://transparentcalifornia.com

          Statist propagandists never admit to the truth!! ๐Ÿ™‚

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          • Skippingdog
            Skippingdog 21 March, 2014, 22:55

            So you know how to link one website. That’s hardly proof of the other nonsense you continually post here.

          • Donkey
            Donkey 22 March, 2014, 06:54

            I only post the truth my misogynist stalker.

            Did you read the story about the cops in Northern California using live animals for target practice? The sociopaths said that using live animals gave the officers a more realistic real-time shooting experience. When the citizens started to complain all of a sudden the animals were sick, dying, or going to be put to sleep anyways.

            Tell me Skdog, what kind of sick organization would transport living creatures to be used as target practice to enhance their acumen for real job related murder? The NAZI’s, Stalin, Japanese during WW2, Americans during some Indian conflicts. Some really mentally ill humans are running the LE RAGWUS. ๐Ÿ™‚

          • Ted Steele, CEO
            Ted Steele, CEO 24 March, 2014, 06:56

            I remember the day that Duncey learned the word “misogynist”—– it’s always funny when a “not so sharp” person learns a big word and then overuses it or applies it in wrong contexts…..I love CWD— let the rant spittle fly doomer girls!

      • Skippingdog
        Skippingdog 21 March, 2014, 20:31

        Nice work linking the Dallas Morning News site! What kind of fly-by-night operation is “WalletHub” anyway, and why would CWD be relying on them for their information?

        Oh, that’s right! Facts don’t matter here anymore.

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        • S Moderation Douglas
          S Moderation Douglas 21 March, 2014, 20:40

          I might have to apologize for the “worst journalism” crack.

          Apparently EVERYBODY is buying in.

          MSM is embarrassing me.

          Corrolary, ” if it’s too BAD to be true, better learn some reading comprehension”

          I just can’t take any more this evening.

          Thanks for the one note of common sense, though.

          AFK

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          • Skippingdog
            Skippingdog 21 March, 2014, 20:47

            If you look at the WalletHub site, you quickly find that it’s a “rent an expert” subsidiary of an outfit called “Evolution Financial.” Evolution Financial is a creation of some huckster who has now graduated from being a direct market mortgage hustler and is looking for his place in the echo chamber. Apparently he hit pay dirt with all of the wingnut papers today.

            It will be fun watching all of them walk this story back after what’s left of their editors start asking basic questions about its accuracy and it gets repeatedly debunked the same way all of the recent Koch brothers commercials about “Obamacare victims” have been thoroughly gutted.

          • Donkey
            Donkey 21 March, 2014, 21:12

            The truth seems so foreign to a liar!! ๐Ÿ™‚

            “Those that can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” Voltaire ๐Ÿ™‚

          • S Moderation Douglas
            S Moderation Douglas 23 March, 2014, 12:19

            Wallethub, “The Social Network for your Wallet”

            Looks like a financial Facebook wannabe, and they just got tons of free publicity.

            Most of the main stream media just regurgitated the data without confirming or understanding it..lazy.

            Some gullible and/or biased “journalistic ventures” used the “data” to support their own anti California government bias.

            CWD and Wallethub….”Who cares about credibility anyway?”

      • Donkey
        Donkey 21 March, 2014, 20:35

        SMD doesn’t like seeing the cat out of the bag.

        Every RAGWUS feeder is overpaid, underworked, and over pensioned, (if their pension is more than $40,000 a year). ๐Ÿ™‚

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      • SeeSaw
        SeeSaw 21 March, 2014, 22:01

        S Moderation, I feel it is up to each respective government entity in CA to manage its own accumulation policies, and if it doesn’t have a reasonable cap on vacation pay, when possible, it is their own fault and their own constituents should hold the officials accountable. We as citizens cannot individually agonize over every separate entity in CA. Who wouldn’t want to cash out a total of $400,000 in one year! You can’t blame the employees who take advantage of the rules that allow them to do that. Sometimes there are circumstances that are not explained in individual stories that are meant to raise the blood pressures of the public–for instance, the last contract Brown negotiated with the prison guards removed any vacation caps because the ranks are so understaffed they have no opportunity to use vacation time–so of course, the pundits focused on the uncapped time. There was a vacation cap in the municipality where I worked–my total cash-out for unused vacation time and one-half of unused sick time was about $25,000–I cleared $13,000. Nobody would report that, because then the citizens would never be up-in-arms.

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        • S Moderation Douglas
          S Moderation Douglas 22 March, 2014, 00:18

          I agree it’s up to the local to decide. Actually, in the case of Redwood City, the total was salary and benefits, and they didn’t break it down how much of each. I could not verify it, but I strongly suspect that under “benefits” may have been extra contributions to PERS to finance a “golden handshake”.

          Point being, it’s intentionally misleading the public that these are typical salaries.

          Don’t get me wrong, looking at previous years, these firemen did make well over $100,000, including OT and benefits. But that is typical for firemen in Redwood City. Those in Fresno or Turlock make much less. And Caltrans maintenance makes about half that.

          But to the gullible reader, they are ALL millionaires.

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  6. SeeSaw
    SeeSaw 21 March, 2014, 18:17

    That’s intriguing–perhaps I should go to Everett. I am in WA twice a year and have looked for something for a relative in the I-5 corridor between Tacoma and Portland–nothing small for $100K, unless its at least 70 years old. $300 for an original prop 13 in CA is a little low–we pay $500 for our 50’s era tract house–comparable in WA would be closer to $1500.

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  7. Bob
    Bob 21 March, 2014, 18:22

    Ah come on Chris, here in Colliefornia we get politicians that are %150 more corrupt…er…I mean BETTER!

    You get Ahnode, Brownie, Porky Perez and Darrel Stinkbug…aren’t you willing to pay %150 more for their brilliant leadership???

    Well, maked no never mind if you don’t cause one way or another yer gonna pay!

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  8. S Moderation Douglas
    S Moderation Douglas 21 March, 2014, 20:34

    Mr. Reed;
    After you realize the error of your “150% higher average taxes”,

    It would be fitting to retract your comment about the unions being to blame for the mythical costs.

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    • Donkey
      Donkey 21 March, 2014, 20:42

      SMD, if you go to the “new survey” you will see it reads “the avg” is $9,509 in 2014.

      Transparent California shows the taxpayer just how much the RAGWUS feeders are stealing, in both pay, pensions, and benefits. ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚

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    • Donkey
      Donkey 21 March, 2014, 20:52

      And yes, the RAGWUS is the cause of the high cost of government!! ๐Ÿ™‚

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  9. SeeSaw
    SeeSaw 21 March, 2014, 22:13

    And there is no such thing as “RAGWUS”–talk about propaganda!!!!!

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  10. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 21 March, 2014, 22:23

    Donkey your boring like El Callapso!

    Give it a rest………you’re ruled…..accept your fate……servitude.

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    • Donkey
      Donkey 22 March, 2014, 06:40

      UU, I am over taxed, it is clear, but as of yet I am not a slave. I still have the monetary means to go and do as I please around the world. Unlike you however I can see what a group of thieving feral bureaucrats are doing to our once great state. The RAGWUS must die!!! ๐Ÿ™‚

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      • SeeSaw
        SeeSaw 23 March, 2014, 00:08

        You invent the acronym and then wish those you want to tie it to dead! You really should set up an appointment with a mental health therapist! If you did that, you can’t imagine all the best wishes you would receive from us out here. Our state is still great–that’s why those of us who are still here are still here.

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    • Ted Steele, CEO
      Ted Steele, CEO 24 March, 2014, 06:57

      LOL well said UH!

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  11. Skippingdog
    Skippingdog 21 March, 2014, 22:36

    An interesting link to the author of this nonsense. Notice that he doesn’t claim to be a journalist.

    http://www.linkedin.com/pub/john-kiernan/14/958/854

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  12. Skippingdog
    Skippingdog 21 March, 2014, 23:02

    Here’s the original source of the information. Why is it that the “high tax states” have the greatest opportunity for upward economic mobility?

    http://www.equality-of-opportunity.org/

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    • Donkey
      Donkey 22 March, 2014, 07:32

      I didn’t know you were Nancy Pelosi’s husband Skdog, some of your hysterics now make sense.

      Your wife once wrote that for every dollar spent on unemployment it returned two dollars to the economy. Yea that sounds just like you!! ๐Ÿ™‚

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      • SkippingDog
        SkippingDog 22 March, 2014, 10:38

        I only provided the results of the same data set that you have embraced for this little kerfuffle. Either the claims made by WalletHub are correct, based on the data set they used, or they are not. The same data set clearly demonstrates that upward economic mobility is far higher in California and New York than it is in states with lower taxes. Why do you suppose that is?

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        • Donkey
          Donkey 22 March, 2014, 15:43

          California has the highest number of poor in the nation, and the medium income has been falling for years, but you go on and day dream! ๐Ÿ™‚

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          • SeeSaw
            SeeSaw 22 March, 2014, 23:52

            That’s because CA has the highest population in the nation. Many people would rather live poor in CA than rich in other states. If you hate your neighbors so much, Donkey, you would probably be happier to move to a state with people whose economic status is lower than CA–then you would not have anyone to libel continuously.

      • SeeSaw
        SeeSaw 22 March, 2014, 23:59

        That is very believable. A Pew study several years ago had every pension dollar spent multiplying the economy more than double in the economy. We are our brothers’ keepers. All these people out of work are in that situation because of the illegal invasion that was embraced and taken advantage of by the legals and the closing of 60,000 U.S. factories during the Bush years, putting 26,000,000 people out of work.

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        • Donkey
          Donkey 23 March, 2014, 07:52

          What is it about you SeeSaw that basic math is so obtuse?

          And add to the fact that Bill (demonrat) Clinton signed NAFTA, CAFTA, and MFNTS with China, and you end up with all manufacturing heading off shore. The dismantling of our small and large manufacturing was the wet dream of every democrat environmental wacko in the United States.

          No you can’t blame Bush for manufacturing disappearing, its demise was set in motion years before, it just took time to close it all down. ๐Ÿ™‚

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  13. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 22 March, 2014, 08:27

    Is it fate?

    How could so so many insane end up on one itty bitty web site!

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    • Donkey
      Donkey 22 March, 2014, 09:17

      “For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction” – Isaac Newton

      If it is true for atoms, stars, planets, and apes alike, then equally so for this current age of intellectual RAGWUS toddlerdom.

      Human RAGWUS feeders stumbling about. Wrecking. Arrogant. Wasteful. Ignorant. Greedy. Shortsighted. Parasites.

      Too bad we are alive during a particularly strong and probably late tantrum, before reality sets in. And weaning begins.

      So sad the ignorant have control of the reigns of power. ๐Ÿ™‚

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      • SkippingDog
        SkippingDog 22 March, 2014, 12:56

        The ignorant don’t have the reins of power in California, Donk. So far, they only have it in the Red states of the Teabilly Nation. We’re doing our best to make sure it doesn’t happen here.

        Oh, by the way, “reigns” and “reins” are different words. Since you were so thoughtful about correcting my misspelling the other day, I think it’s only fair to return the favor and help you build your vocabulary.

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        • Donkey
          Donkey 22 March, 2014, 13:15

          Thanks for the help Skdog, but read a little deeper. I am referring to predominates of power, but I can understand where you would believe you were on a sleigh ride. ๐Ÿ™‚

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          • SkippingDog
            SkippingDog 22 March, 2014, 13:24

            You needn’t be so embarrassed. Nice weasel attempt, though….

          • Donkey
            Donkey 22 March, 2014, 15:41

            I have no need to be Skdog, I understand the meaning of the word I used, and its intent. You should be “embarrassed,’ but as a sociopathic LE RAGWUS feeder I sure you could never admit wrong doing. ๐Ÿ™‚

          • Ted Steele, Manager
            Ted Steele, Manager 24 March, 2014, 13:17

            I loved the tv show Sapranos because the writers would always make the slothful ignorant LCN types use big words incorrectly. This is one of the things I love about Duncey and the Poodle. ™

  14. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 22 March, 2014, 21:15

    Donk……you’re being played like a civil war drum….embarrassing……

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  15. S Moderation Douglas
    S Moderation Douglas 23 March, 2014, 11:09

    Figured it out yet, Mr. Reed?

    California taxes ARE NOT 150% higher than Washington state’s.

    I can understand (somewhat) how you made that error. Alas, the problem with the mainstream media is not their superficiality, but their shared lack of reading comprehension (or laziness).

    Take the Wallethub “study” to a fifth grade teacher.
    Read the methodology.
    Have her explain the subtle but vital distinction between:

    “average taxpayer burden” (TaxFoundation, ITEP, etc.)

    “burden of the ” average” taxpayer” (Wallethub)

    Call Wallethub, ask them if I am incorrect. That’s what a true “journalistic venture” would do.

    *hint: If you earn more than $65,596 the study does not apply to you. If you earn less than $65,596, the study does not apply.

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    • Donkey
      Donkey 24 March, 2014, 15:14

      Fake it until you make SMD, the theme of every huckster glad handing baby kissing RAGWUS feeder that has ever sought to kiss the ring of the inbred cabal of government crooks. ๐Ÿ™‚

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  16. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 24 March, 2014, 21:34

    Burrowbro

    Your getting rather ugly…..Teddy tries to nudge you toward enlightenment…..mellow is the word…..

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