Brown needs to cut moonbeams, not welfare

April 20, 2012 - By admin

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April 20, 2012

By Wayne Lusvardi

California Gov. Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown recently issued a phony challenge to the state legislature to “man up” and cut services out of the state budget to resolve a lingering $9 billion deficit.

Brown was telling the legislature to remove the proverbial wooden beam out of their eyes rather than take the moonbeam out of his own eye.

Brown knows that the services he wants the legislature to cut – welfare and Medi-Cal – are federally mandated.  Medi-Cal is California’s version of Medicaid, not Medi-Care. Thus, proposing to cut back such services would galvanize public pressure to save such services from the chopping block.  Brown dare not shine a moonbeam on his own pet programs and policies.

Los Angeles Times columnist George Skelton creates more phony drama about Brown’s challenge to the legislature to reduce the state budget on the purported backs of the poor.  Skelton scolds the governor for telling the legislature to “man up” by cutting back some health and welfare services from the state budget.  This just focuses more public attention on mostly pretend cuts to mandated services. The poor and the medically needy are always put on the visible chopping block instead of non-essential middle class welfare programs and policies.

Untouchable Luxury Public Goods

The remaining budget deficit could be solved by cutting or suspending the provision of luxury public goods, such as redundant:

* Affordable housing;
* Stem cell research;
* High-speed rail;
* Green power;
* Cap and trade pollution credits;
* Useless energy research funded as a surcharge on utility bills;
* “Waterless” water bonds;
* “Categorical” public school ancillary jobs earmarks;
* Perchlorate regulation that has no health benefits;
* Mandated elimination of ocean water cooling for coastal power plants at an enormous cost to protect a few sea mammals and fish larvae while thousands of birds are killed by wind turbines.

Former University of California, Berkeley political scientist Aaron Wildavsky once wrote that such bureaucratic programs don’t just exist by hoodwinking the population with green ideology. Tax expenditures keep going up because more people benefit from the public distribution of jobs and wealth enhancements to private properties from such programs than benefit from private production.

What green power, cap and trade, affordable housing, eliminating coastal power plants, bullet trains and “waterless” water bonds all have in common is enriching the values of private properties and sometimes creating real estate speculation. These programs:

* Replace old, obsolescent housing with new luxury low income housing;
* Reduce air pollution by shifting it elsewhere;
* Eliminate nuisance power plants by shifting them to remote areas;
* Reduce the number of nuisance jet airplane flights and noise by shifting passengers to trains; and
* Create open space buffers around upscale residential enclaves with so-called water bond funding.

The above luxury programs don’t really reduce pollution, create more water resources, reduce educational deficits in children from perchlorate, protect endangered species, create magical medical cures for cancer or paralysis or make housing more affordable. What they mainly do is shift those problems elsewhere or to where nobody lives.  Or such programs promise to eliminate some perceived threat to public health and property values — such as perchlorate in drinking water  – at a huge cost that could be done so cheaply by iodized salt in the human diet.

Why California is Dysfunctional

By enhancing private property values, bureaucracies bind middle class homeowners to their programs.  In the language or psychotherapy, private property owners become co-dependent on bureaucrats and labor unions for middle-class welfare.

This is why California is often described in terms of a dysfunctional family. What California needs is a Twelve-Step Program to recover from its addiction to overspending on non-essential middle-class welfare programs, not cutting programs for the poor or medically needy. One of the reasons California’s economy has been declining is that it over-invests in real estate compared to states like Texas.

The bureaucratic agencies that run the above-listed programs all preserve and protect the California Dream of home ownership.  If strong cultural values and economic interests did not desire these popular programs, they would not be so resilient to elimination or expenditure reductions.

This is what economist William Fischel describes in his book, “The Homevoter Hypothesis: How Home Values Influence Local Government Taxation, School Finance, and Land Use Policies.”

Voters are rational economic actors who perceive the benefits of luxury government programs and policies to their property and wealth interests.  It isn’t the super rich or the poor immigrant who are the only causes of the state budget deficit.

This is why California state government is dysfunctional. It is why we have a state water system with only a half-year of water storage.  By comparison, the Colorado River system has 4 to 10 years of water storage. Meanwhile, we have spent more than $18 billion on five water bonds that produced no new water storage reservoirs and have mainly funded open space acquisitions.

This is why the state unemployment fund is in hock to the federal government for more than $10 billion, but luxury “affordable housing” programs continue to be flush with cash.

This is why Medi-Cal is being threatened with budget cuts, but the voters have approved funding redundant stem cell research.

This is why self-serving bureaucrats are mandating costly cleanups of perchlorate from drinking water with no health benefits, but family welfare is to be cut back.  Voters should not worry, however. Residential property owners will not feel “toxic” substances threaten their home values.

California has a structural budget deficit because voters are “homevoters” who vote for mostly visual benefits that enhance their property wealth. California is running a permanent budget deficit because it is promising the middle class it will eliminate the side effects of modern technological society: pollution, cancer, noisy airports, dirty power plants, toxic substances, and all kinds of nuisances from their backyards. But mostly these are purely symbolic benefits. This is mostly why California government is broke and health and welfare services must go begging.

Pogo Principle: We Have Met the Enemy and They are Us!

Political scientist Aaron Wildavsky called this The Pogo Principle: “we have seen the enemy and they are us.”  Pogo is a character in a comic strip created by William Kelly.

It is hypocritical to threaten cutbacks to health and welfare programs for the poor and leave middle class welfare programs untouched.  It is likewise hypocritical for tax advocates to continue to want tax increases shifted to the despised “1 percent” of high-income earners — the millionaires’ tax — while leaving luxury government programs for the bulk of the middle class uncut.

It is hypocritical for an environmental governor such as Jerry Brown to dramatize the cutback of health and welfare programs while leaving middle class welfare programs untouched. Gov. Brown should take the “moonbeam” out of his own eye first before staging a media event about cutting programs for the poor.

We have met the enemy of health and welfare programs. It is not the “1 percent.”  It is not the Republicans. It is not the corporations or banks. It is not only the immigrants.  As the comic strip character Pogo accurately stated: “it is us.”

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Comments(62)
  1. Ted Steele, Janitor says:

    Some sort of good points in there Wayner!

    There may be a few luxury things to cut but the Gov. has made a good point on manning up on the cuts. These legislators need to tell us what they are willing to have courage on!!!

  2. queeg says:

    NO MAS!!!!!

    More kick the can…

  3. Beelzebub says:

    Wayne, while cuts are drastically needed in salaries and pensions for government workers – our welfare system is completely broken and out of control. Cuts need to be made there as well. Big cuts.

    We have 33% of the nation’s welfare population in California and only 12% of the nation’s total population. That is out of control, Wayne. And to be candid you need to do a nice long blog on that problem too. But we never seem to see a related article about the Ca welfare problem or illegal migrant problem here at the Cal Watchdog. I feel it’s a deficiency.

    We need to address ALL the problems. There are many.

  4. Beelzebub says:

    A Sactown politician’s capacity to solve problems sort of reminds me of Navin in ‘The Jerk’:

  5. Wayne Lusvardi says:

    There will not be any cutting of welfare programs until middle class welfare is cut first. The price of middle class welfare to protect home values is social welfare programs. The two are symbiotic. Politicians always talk about compromise. That is the compromise that homeowners have to accept if they want their home values protected. Cutting social welfare programs first won’t work.

  6. Beelzebub says:

    “There will not be any cutting of welfare programs until middle class welfare is cut first. The price of middle class welfare to protect home values is social welfare programs”

    You’re all wet, Wayne. The welfare population has been 2.5x’s the state’s percent of total US population throughout the ups and downs of the RE market. Please don’t try to blame middle class working stiffs for Ca’s welfare problems and say we have to take more from working people before we can cut fraud and waste in non-working welfare recipients. That’s a total cop out.

    You know damned well that having 33% of the nation’s welfare recipients and only 12% of the nation’s total population is flat out wrong, Wayne. California isn’t the only state that has undergone a RE collapse. Stop muddying the waters. Let’s debate this straight up.

  7. Ted Steele, Janitor says:

    The Wayne Unit is 100% correct!!! Well done Wayner!

  8. Ted Steele, Janitor says:

    ..add to middle class welfare— Republican big oil subsidy!

  9. Beelzebub says:

    “The Wayne Unit is 100% correct!!! Well done Wayner!”

    When you start supporting CW reporters it’s time for a CW team meeting up in Sactown. Something’s gone awry.

    The funny part is that the welfare leeches will trump your pension entitlements! :) And as soon as you get your haircut notice you’ll be back on these boards calling for immigration enforcement and welfare reform. :) You’re failing to recognize the uprising factor. And that trumps anything you pension leeches got to offer. The shark’s already been jumped. The joke’s on you! :D

    You liberals are all the same. You love the downtrodden until they move in on your stash. Then you cry “FOUL”!!! :D

  10. Wayne Lusvardi says:

    What I am talking about is the phenomenon of political “logrolling” (one politician can’t push the log all by himself and asks another politician to push his end of the log). Welfare does not expand on its own. It requires the middle class to vote for it, or for its elected representatives to vote for it. To do so they have to make trade offs. They have to get the middle class their “goodies” in order for them to assent to welfare programs for the poor. This is just realpolitik.

  11. Beelzebub says:

    “Welfare does not expand on its own. It requires the middle class to vote for it, or for its elected representatives to vote for it”

    You flunk, Wayne. The welfare scam is the same as the pension scam. The middle class never voted for it directly nor did they elect their representatives to foist it on them. All of it was done quid pro quo behind closed doors without regard for public input. What began as reasonable programs evolved into irrational give-a-way bonanzas with money changing hands in smoke filled rooms under bar room tables. California is one of the few if not the ONLY state that does not require welfare recipients to work for their benefits. I never had a chance to vote on that. Word gets around fast. All they need to do is have a baby every five years and they can become career welfare leeches and they get it all…..housing, food and medical care. All on the taxpayer’s dime. Why are you protecting these people? To blame it on the middle class is deplorable. You should be writing for the Huffington Post.

  12. Ted Steele, Janitor says:

    Waynisimo!!— You are again right on— Clearly the protest from Beeeezyboob proves your thesis!!! LMAO !!!

    Beeeezy— Can you say Haircut????

  13. Ted Steele, Janitor says:

    Wayne— I love the way beezyboob pretends he does not live in a representative democ. every time he can’t get his way! Oh my!!!

  14. Beelzebub says:

    “Wayne— I love the way beezyboob pretends he does not live in a representative democ. every time he can’t get his way! Oh my!!!”

    Wayne showed us his true colors. But once the colors are out in the open it’s better to flaunt them instead of trying to convince us that blue is red. Say it loud, I’m blue and I’m proud! ;)

    And anyone who truly swallows the bait about living in a representative democracy is about as naive as they come. “And with liberty and freedom for all” HAH! :)

    Alice in Wonderland is playing at your local Registar of Voters tomorrow, Ted. Show up early and you can also get a glimpse of the changing of the guard! :D

  15. rich mck says:

    There is an alternative to raising taxes. Prisons, which hold almost 60,000 low-level inmates, cost about $30,000 more to operate than a county jail bed. The U.S. Supreme Court order to reduce prison capacity by 32,000 beds will force the State to cut about $1 billion in annual prison costs. The State could save an additional billion annually by transferring the remaining 26,000 level I & II prison inmates to counties. All that is required is passage of a law requiring courts and correctional agencies to comply with the long held correctional principle of placing offenders in the least restrictive custody setting required for public safety. It certainly shouldn’t require a Supreme Court order to save taxpayer money!

  16. queeg says:

    Children children….when your gruel pot is empty….stop whining for more!!!!

  17. Ted Steele, Janitor says:

    Beezy– Face it—- Wayne exposed you and your ilk as the trough feeders you truly are!LOL— PERFECT!! Ever notice how the bible thumpers are always the first guys convicted of the strange moral turp charges??? LOL

    Thesis= proved…QED !

  18. Beelzebub says:

    “Beezy– Face it—- Wayne exposed you and your ilk as the trough feeders you truly are!LOL— PERFECT!! Ever notice how the bible thumpers are always the first guys convicted of the strange moral turp charges??? LOL”

    Which further proves to us what a true imbecile you really are, Ted.

    Middle class wages have been stagnant for over a decade while inflation continues to soar higher and higher. Effectively, that is a tax on the middle class. I guess we voted for that too, didn’t we?

    When the elites destroyed the economy it was the middle class to the rescue. We voted for that too, didn’t we??? heh. The calls going into congress were 100:1 against TARP. They said “screw you” and passed it anyway. That’s the respresentative democracy that you speak of.

    Gas prices are manipulated higher and they tell us it’s all about the squabbles between Iran and Isreal. HAH! It all has to do with money printing. A huge windfall for states like Ca when the state tax increases with every tick up in the gasoline price. Why do you think it would take major surgery to pull Kamala Harris’ nose from Obama’s butt if he made a sudden and unexpected stop? Gas price = another tax on the middle class. We voted for that in our wonderful democracy, didn’t we?

    We voted for ZIRP too, didn’t we? Artificial suppression of interest rates. Another tax on the middle class, especially the elderly living on fixed incomes who historically have relied on fixed income investments to make it through the end of the month.

    And now you and Wayne think it’s a grand idea for the working stiffs in the middle class to sustain indigents who are allowed to lay back and collect a taxpayer stipend every month without lifting a finger to earn it. I see people at the grocery store all the time who use one of those government food stamp cards to buy their groceries then walk out and pack their food stuffs into the back of a 2010 Escalade or the equivalent. And you have the unmitigated gall to blame the working stiffs for the problem. Despicable.

    The reason the RE prices are being subsidized has nothing to do with saving the middle class. The whole reason behind that is to save the banking industry. Any idiot understands that. If they were concerned about the middle class TARP would have never been approved. Banksters would have been arrested and prosecuted. The USA would reject any more contributions to the IMF fund to save the banksters over in Europe.

    This is a blatant war on the middle class. You are an imbecile so I excuse you. Wayne Lusvardi is not an imbecile and knows much better. And he should be held to a higher standard. There should be other CalWatchdog readers chiming in here with me but most are like little children who are scared to tell Mr. Demmmings, their math teacher, that he has a hole in the back of his pants. All of them giggle in the privacy of their minds – but none have the courage to say “Mr. Demmings, you have hole in the back of your pants”. heh. That’s the way we Americans have been conditioned.

    But you, Ted, do have an excuse. You are a full-blown idiot. :D

  19. Rex The Wonder Dog! says:

    Welfare does not expand on its own. It requires the middle class to vote for it, or for its elected representatives to vote for it.

    Totally false. Welfare Is no different from the gov pension scam, which was/is and always will be negotiated and voted for behind closed doors so the public does not get to see the fraud until 24 hours before the public vote.

    Beelz is also 100% correct about TARP-94% of ALL Americans were against it, it it passed. That is not representatative democrocey, it is the opposite, toltatiatrian government.

  20. Rex The Wonder Dog! says:

    Totally false. Welfare Is no different from the gov pension scam, which was/is and always will be negotiated and voted for behind closed doors so the public does not get to see the fraud until 24 hours before the public vote.

    Beelz is also 100% correct about TARP-94% of ALL Americans were against it, it it passed. That is not representative democracy, it is the opposite, totalitarian government.

  21. Rex The Wonder Dog! says:

    This is a blatant war on the middle class. You are an imbecile so I excuse you. Wayne Lusvardi is not an imbecile and knows much better.

    LOL!!!….Teddy Steals will never recover from that haymaker Beelz, he will still be knocked out into last week when he finally wakes up :)

  22. Beelzebub says:

    “Totally false. Welfare Is no different from the gov pension scam, which was/is and always will be negotiated and voted for behind closed doors so the public does not get to see the fraud until 24 hours before the public vote”

    Absolutely, rex. Welfare started out as a TEMPORARY program to get people back on their feet when they fell on hard times. Today is has become a lifestyle sustainer. There is a large group of Americans who are satisfied with the meager lifestyle that welfare provides. Afterall, they get free shelter, free food, free medical, all have TV sets w/cable, contrary to common belief – most have a car for transportation – in other words they live a comfortable lifestyle with all the basics. For free. Now I’m not bagging on the ones who are truly incapable of helping themselves – like parapalegics. I am referring to the able-bodied scammers who have chosen a life of leechery and the option to live off the production of others. Look at the choices that OctoMom made. Old Mother Hubbard. Now we are forced to provide for her subsistence and for the subsistence of her brood for eternity. And what are the chances that her brood follows in mother’s footsteps when they leave the nest, if ever? It is a vicious cycle that needs to get interrupted and broken. And the ONLY way to do it is through TOUGH LOVE! Allowing people to collect free benefits without lifting a finger to earn them is complicity and negligence. And all of the Sactown clowns know that. They do it because it because it is personally profitable FOR THEM and maintains maximum control over a growing number of people. When you house, feed, clothe and provide medical care to a human being YOU OWN HIM!

    For Lusvardi to claim that we must extract more from the middle class while these leeches continue to ride high off our production just boils my blood! :(

  23. Wayne Lusvardi says:

    It is interesting what some read into what I wrote – like an Ink Blot Test. i’m not saying the welfare should be cut or expanded or left as-is. What I am saying is that if there is a choice between cutting welfare or middle class green programs, I opt for the middle class green programs being cut; or for both being reformed. Everyone knows that welfare programs are always symbolically put on the chopping block and pet programs are not considered for cuts. Funding welfare programs gives politicians moral legitimacy – they are helping the poor. Luxury programs have questionable moral legitimacy. Government should get out of the business of providing luxury public goods and go back to providing basic protective services and the court system. And that would give conservatives or libertarians a possible higher moral ground on which to propose funding cuts.

  24. Beelzebub says:

    “What I am saying is that if there is a choice between cutting welfare or middle class green programs, I opt for the middle class green programs being cut; or for both being reformed”

    Stop backtracking and revising your original statement, Wayne:

    “The price of middle class welfare to protect home values is social welfare programs. The two are symbiotic. Politicians always talk about compromise. That is the compromise that homeowners have to accept if they want their home values protected”

    Green programs aren’t designed to artificially maintain home values. As a matter of fact the purpose is to extract homeowner equity to fund their programs.

    “Everyone knows that welfare programs are always symbolically put on the chopping block and pet programs are not considered for cuts. Funding welfare programs gives politicians moral legitimacy – they are helping the poor”

    What the frack is wrong with you? We have 33% of the welfare population in CA with only 12% of the nation’s total population. It’s a massive drag on the economy since it only disproportionally adds to the state’s debtload to finance the fraud, waste and the increasing numbers of dependent leeches. When you give away loads of crap for free there will be a lineup outside your front door, Wayne. That is why we have 33% of the leeches here in CA. Leeches know a bargain when they see one. And you want to punish the middle class working stiffs to fund this nonsense??? Do you wear a little red star on your collar???

    IMO you are writing for the wrong blog.

  25. queeg says:

    Sounds like some tortured souls…..

    Someone has to make it to the top…why not you…stocking shelves is admirable work chums…but big oil, big food, big government, Wall Street is, was, will be where the money you envy is…..join the party…no more painful posts…just the good life your missing….

  26. Beelzebub says:

    “Sounds like some tortured souls…”

    You, Wayne and some of your bleeding heart purgers should spend a Saturday or Sunday in the LA projects once a week and go door to door apologizing for your tacit participation in their exploitation. Bend over and let them spank you. In fact, as a group take out home equity loans on your pads and divide it equally among the welfare leeches. That will resolve your middle-class guilt complex. :D

  27. Ted Steele, Janitor says:

    Beezy-girl! Man- gf you are grasping for straws trying to make your self not look like the troughfeeder that you are!

    Inflation= a tax on the mid class is an analog to Wayner’s point about the real mid class cuts that are coming and that you’ll whine about???? Really??? That’s the best point you can make????? Oh my—- I wish you’d had the chance at college old girl!

    mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm beeeeeeezy mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmlol

  28. Beelzebub says:

    Making sense of your posts is like trying to have a meaningful conversation about deflationary bubbles with a catatonic schizophrenic off his meds. I’d inquire further but I’ve come to the conclusion that entering the debate ring with you is sort of like playing a game of one on one up to 20 with a midget down at the schoolyard. I simply don’t need to engage in self-image building exercises that badly.

  29. Ted Steele, Human Relations says:

    Yes Beezy Girl– I do know how difficult it must be for you. Hang in there little fela!

    Remember, deflationary bubbles notwithstanding, when you operationalize a conceptual abstraction, you are merely measuring the perceivable counterparts.

    Hurry……run to google!

  30. Ted Steele, Janitor says:

    I know it’s hard for you Beezy.

  31. queeg says:

    It is depressing skimming the Marxist posts….but enlightening…doomsday preppers have a good day eh?

  32. Beelzebub says:

    Teddy, you and queeq should get a room together. You could analyze questions like “If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it does it make a sound?”. I’m willing to bet that you would form a deep, deep friendship together.

  33. Ted Steele, Janitor says:

    Beezy— Forests? I clear cut them all…..and I drilled baby I drilled!

  34. Beelzebub says:

    That’s the way queeq likes it (taken from an old pop tune) uh-huh, uh-huh!

  35. queeg says:

    Love the wind in the trees…the smell of the pines…but tree huggers smell of PAK vegan sauces and medicinal weed..

  36. Beelzebub says:

    Based on this documentation it has been noted that the attorneys representing the Trayvon Martin family mislead the courts and participated in the fabrication of material evidence. For the love of God, they are officers of the court, are they not? Isn’t such behavior a violation of the law anymore in this banana republic of ours? Is the bought-off media hiding the fact that Humpty was shoved off the wall? Can anyone be trusted anymore? Even the mechanism of our highest courts?

    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/04/21/update-10-part-2-the-trayvon-martin-shooting-deedee-reveals-the-false-truths/

  37. Ted Steele, Janitor says:

    Beezy– are you getting enough oxygen down on the bunker little buddy?

  38. Beelzebub says:

    Poke holes in the evidence if you can. I suspect you can’t.

    But don’t shoot the messenger.

  39. Beelzebub says:

    I met a couple kids at the dog park the other day. Both are studying to be physician assistants. So far each are about $100k in debt with student loans. I was at a loss for words. I didn’t know whether to ask “How is that possible?” or “How in tar hill are you going to pay that back?” or just say “I’m sorry”. I said nothing. I just smiled. Let them find out the origins of the scam for themselves. I didn’t have the heart to tell them.

  40. Beelzebub says:

    There is an excellent book on the welfare state. It’s 3-4 years old but still an wonderful read. Title: Stealing from Each Other (How the welfare state robs Americans of money and spirit) by Browning. Last I looked it was still quite pricey but you might be able to find a used copy at a discount store on the cheap. It addresses the origins of the welfare state in America and the horrendous albatross it’s evolved into. Wayne, if you’re still out there – you need to read it. It’s got lots of libertarian principles included too. Very educational. Easy read too. You can zip through it in a couple hours.

  41. Ted Steele, Janitor says:

    “poke holes in the evidence if you can”–

    What evidence?

    What are you talking about?

    Are you ok?

  42. Ted Steele, Janitor says:

    poor Beezy is out here on a loony board arguing with himself….yikes!

  43. Beelzebub says:

    Teddy, there are three categories of people.

    (1) Those who make it happen.

    (2) Those who watch it happen.

    (3) And those who ask “What happened?”

    Based on your posts you fall into category (3).

  44. queeg says:

    Now….now…
    now….

    Open discussion among loons is possible…..

  45. Beelzebub says:

    “Open discussion among loons is possible…”

    Now that you’ve joined in is that an open admission?

    Teddy welcomes you! :D

  46. Ted Steele, Janitor says:

    While it is possible Queeg, a full reading of the entire transcript revels a pedantic argument between Beezy-girl and herself……

    oh my……..

  47. Beelzebub says:

    I lost count of how many disheveled cartoon characters playing bit parts in that one-star flick that you got going on in that bird brain of yours, Teddy. I don’t have a in-house babble translator here so I stopped following the sequels awhile back. Your front row seat with surround sound must be breathtaking.

  48. Ted Steele, Janitor says:

    Your in house babble translator must have a reverse switch as you continue to pump inane blatherings signifying nothing as skeptics howl while you and your fellow sleepy tolls everywhere put on their troll pj’s, kiss their Mom’s goodnight and drift off into your Beckian Rush fantasy dreams….zzzzzzzzzzzzz……mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm….that’s better…….

  49. queeg says:

    Now lets stop. This is a exchange of ideas site…pleading with you to respect all opinions….even the known loons!!!!

  50. Ted Steele, Janitor says:

    I will hereafter respect BeezyLoon.

  51. Beelzebub says:

    “Now lets stop. This is a exchange of ideas site…pleading with you to respect all opinions….even the known loons!!!!”

    Just because some loon throws out an idea I am under no obligation to give it my consideration, much less my respect. You must have attended the Saul Alinsky School of Egalitarianism. Some crackpot who wants to dig deeper into my pocket to fund his grossly excessive government pension handout deserves none of my respect. He only deserves my contempt. This is not a game. It’s a war. Until you understand that stay on the sidelines and watch the big boys play.

    The latest is that the House, Ways and Means Committee is considering reducing the employer-employee’s combined contribution that can be deducted from income on 401k’s BY OVER HALF as a solution to “reduce the spending deficit”. But we know they want to steal 401k money to fund the government pensions. That’s their final objective here. Make no mistake about it.

    Other proposals are to eliminate the mortgage writeoff on second homes and to tax healthcare benefits provided by employers.

    None of this crap deserves one iota of my respect. Go take a flying leap!

  52. Beelzebub says:

    And you just wait until after the elections. That’s when the hammer falls on the peasants. And if Obama is reelected we are screwed to the Nth degree since he becomes a lame duck. You think Arnold screwed us as he walked out the door. You reelected Obama and he will make Arnold look like a Sunday school boy. Mark my words! :(

  53. Rex The Wonder Dog! says:

    It is definitely a war, a war by Big Business and public unions on the poor and middle class.

    I have YET to see Clown cut any public employees pay OR pensions. Not a single one, and in many case-like prison guard comp and teacher funding- he has dramatically increased the expenditures in their new contracts. Clown should have been cutting it, or freezing it at current levels for 5 or more years at the very least.

    This is called The “Washington Monument Syndrome”;

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Monument_Syndrome

  54. Rex The Wonder Dog! says:

    Bellz, don’t worry, the wheels have fallen off the cart. The tax hikes are going fail by a large margin, no doubt in my mind about that.

    What the public pensions have turned into is really nothing more than a government funded Ponzi scheme. There is NO WAY hundreds of thousands of public employees will be able to retire with $100K+ pensions, the money is simply not going to be there, there will not be enough taxes in the world to fund them even if there was a huge tax increase. The rate of government salary is going up every year by 3%-9% in these government employment contracts, and with growth like that there is never going to be enough taxes to fund multi million dollar pensions for 1.9 million CA public employees. Mr. Math is going to end it one way or another.

    The public employees don’t, or will not, understand that until it is forced upon them

  55. queeg says:

    Obama will limit gun sales based on local violent crime statistics compiled by the Fast and Furious Gang.

    Beezy and Teddy will run radio programming under licensing of Van Jones and Glenn Beck.

    The UN will tax all financial tranactions in the civilized world…the proceeds to fund cementing dirt floors in third world countries using Fanny Mae…..

  56. Beelzebub says:

    “Obama will limit gun sales based on local violent crime statistics compiled by the Fast and Furious Gang”

    Sorry. He’s too late. Gun sales have flown off the charts in the last 3 years. Go look at the gun manufacturer earnings and stock prices if you question that. And once a man has purchased a gun LEGALLY try to take it back from him. heh.

    “Beezy and Teddy will run radio programming under licensing of Van Jones and Glenn Beck”

    You’re little one liners are wasted print and senseless. Ask Teddy what meds he is on – and follow suit.

    “The UN will tax all financial tranactions in the civilized world…the proceeds to fund cementing dirt floors in third world countries using Fanny Mae…..”

    For Christ sakes. You have the nerve to call me a Glen Beck follower??? HAH! :D

  57. Ted Steele, Janitor says:

    Oh man there is a full blown oxygen crisis down ion the bunker— President O’s reelection, gun nuts, taxes, plummeting economy—– oh my!!!!!!!!!!

    Beezy Loon and Rex the Poodle and Glen Beck!!!!!!!!!!

    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

  58. Beelzebub says:

    Here….you don’t believe me???

    Look at the 2 year chart for Ruger stock (RGR):

    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=RGR+Basic+Chart&t=2y

    HAH! Off the charts. ;)

    People are mostly idiots but even a crap bug has the sense to know when it’s about to rain. :D

    What did Mao Tse-Tung say years ago? Something about ‘political power grows from the barrel of a gun’?

    Let’s pray all of this has a happy ending!

  59. queeg says:

    Saying litle tells lots about loon arguments….why waste net time on Mao epistles!!!

  60. Beelzebub says:

    “Saying litle tells lots about loon arguments….why waste net time on Mao epistles!!!”

    Because the nation is now run based on quasi-communist principles, not free market or capitalist principles that it was founded on. Therefore, what Mao says applies.

    Try to keep up to speed. I don’t want to explain every nuance that appears on the board. It’s time consuming and everyone else seems to get it. This one was on the house.

  61. Ted Steele, Janitor says:

    Poor Beezy loon—- quoting the Chairman—- that’s right—– buy gooooooold——-Beck was right! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh the sky is fallin!

    Hey, on another note——Can you imagine how tough it must’ve been for Bush and Cheney to cover up taking down building 7 at the WTC????

    Yikes– it’s C—RAZY up in here!

  62. Alittlecommondenseplease says:

    Great Monnbeam cut the welfare yee haw then illegals will leave that;s just what the Dr. ordered.

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