Are Democrats still relevant?

Are Democrats still relevant?

Pelosi - official pictureRonald Reagan became a lame duck after his 1984 election landslide. His Republican Party, thanks to the incompetent leadership of Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole, even lost control of the U.S. Senate in 1986, leaving Democrats in charge of both houses of Congress.

Incredibly, the GOP tax reform cut taxes on the rich, but imposed the infamous “waitress tax” on those poor working gals. Before then waitresses were free to make their own estimate of their taxable tips. Many figured they didn’t need to give so generously to the wastrels in D.C. like Dole. The reform gouged them up front with an estimate of their tips. How cruel.

The waitress tax was Dole’s doing that year, and somehow he got Reagan, in the midst of the Iran-Contra scandal, to go along with it. No wonder Dole was dubbed “the tax collector of the welfare state,” and voters dumped the GOP from power in the Senate.

After all that, Reagan proclaimed, “I am not a potted plant.” He went on to continue winning the Cold Warn and preventing Democrats from helping Dole attack the economy with even higher taxes.

Pelosi

That comes to mind after House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi of San Francisco said of Republicans taking over the Senate, while keeping control of the House: “I don’t think anyone is irrelevant. We have leverage if they don’t have the votes. They have leverage because they know we will be responsible. And that allows them to be irresponsible to a certain extent.”

Democrats “responsible”? Perhaps in relation to Republicans the last time they controlled both houses of Congress, 2003-06 — when the GOP went on a wild spending binge, ran up the deficits and bankrupted the country. No wonder Democrats swept back into control of Congress in the Nov. 2006 election.

President Obama remains, of course, a Democrat. As shown by his executive order declaring an amnesty of 5 million illegal aliens, the president is determined to show he’s not “irrelevant.” And Pelosi backed him.

The good news is that we now have gridlock, meaning both sides won’t be able to pass any new scheme to waste our money, only to fund previous wasteful programs. For that, at least, Democrats are not irrelevant.

 

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  1. T Mind of Ted Your God
    T Mind of Ted Your God 8 December, 2014, 18:16

    Timberrr– You again give yourself away as a person who reads and understands very little US history.

    Why would you think that the House and senate leadership from the respective parties should be “enemies” as you say?

    This tea baggy nonsense of angst and hatred and gov stopping and denial of CR’s is all new little buddy. At least “new” in the way it is being conducted now. You are a shining example of part of the problem…….zzzzzzzzzzz

    nite nite

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  2. Timberrrrrr......
    Timberrrrrr...... 8 December, 2014, 20:56

    You’ve got a case of major denial, teddysmal. I don’t regurgitate anyone’s ideology, much less what I hear on Fox news, a network I watch only once in a blue moon. I don’t believe in Hannity. I don’t believe in O’Reilly. I don’t believe in Megan Whatsherface. I don’t believe in Neil Cavuto. None of them form my opinions. I view them as cheap entertainment. All my ideas are my own, based on in-depth analysis of news that I gather from independent sources (mostly foreign)that reveal only the facts. No spin. No bogusly biased journalism. Just the facts, baby!

    So where’s the gridlock you’re talking about? There’s not gov shutdown. There’s no balanced budget. There’s no stopping the debt ceiling. There’s no refusal to fund Obamacare. There’s no fight to stop Obama’s legalization of millions of foreign illegal criminals. There’s no throwing Wall Street crooks in jail. There’s no throwing bankers who collectively laundered trillions of narco funds for south of the border drug cartels in prison. There’s no holding top government officials in the IRS, the ATF or the Intelligence Director James Clapper accountable for committing obvious crimes. Vladamir Putin is absolutely correct. America is a lawless nation for those on the top. Equality under the law in America is an international joke. Anyone with 2 eyes and 2 brain cells should be able to see it. It is not a democrat or republican problem, per se. It is a systemic problem deeply ingrained into the American psyche. We have been conditioned to expect corruption at our highest levels of government and business. We know it won’t be punished. And we know it will continue. We have lost our nation. They’ve turned it into a house of prostitution. And the people sit idly by and watch it crumble piece by piece. Everything I wrote about Obama in my previous comment above is the absolute truth and cannot be refuted. That is why you didn’t offer any SPECICIF counterarguments to ANY of my assertions. You just blabbered a bunch of unrelated nonsense to try and throw the other readers off. You got nothing Teddysmal. Admit it. You got nothing but aversions and distractions. You fool no one, the least of all ME!!!!

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    • Timberrrrrr......
      Timberrrrrr...... 8 December, 2014, 21:12

      Oh, btw, Obama ended wars? Are you high, man? He’s sending more soldiers to Iraq to spill their blood after totally screwing up by pulling out before Iraq was stabilized. Now he’s starting the war all over again! He’s just signed an agreement to keep our troops in Afghanistan until 2024. Obama attacked Libya without even going to Congress first, armed terrorists and set up the assassination of a sitting sovereign President, violating the War Powers Act of 1973. Now Obama has ordered airstikes on another sovereign nation (Syria) without the approval of Congress or any international legal authority. He is a rogue dictator totally out of control.

      Oh, and his national healthcare program is the biggest failure in US history. It has no chance of survival. It was ill-conceived and built on a foundation of sand. It was called the AFFORDABLE Healthcare Act!!! What a total JOKE!!! Costs have only gone UP UP UP!!! We are now spending 20% of our GDP on healthcare alone!!! While all other major first world nations spend only 9%-12% of GDP on medical care for their citizens!!! ObamaCare only made a bad situation WORSE!!! Now we’re really in trouble!!! Healthcare is going to bankrupt America!!! MARK MY WORDS!!! U-N-S-U-S-T-A-I-N-A-B-L-E!!!

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      • ricky65
        ricky65 8 December, 2014, 22:37

        Ok, I’m convinced Collapso (or Apocalytpo) is back and has been reincarnated as Timberrrr.
        Seems like its the same old BS rap but without the annoying LOL’s and HAHs!.
        And when you think about it, the ‘Timbrrrrr’ and ‘Let it Collapse’ monikers have pretty much the same old ‘bring-it-all-down-man’ theme.
        Jeez, I thought we were done with this problem on CWD. I’m wondering if maybe we could get him to say his name backwards (rrrrrrrebmit) just like Mr. Mxyztplk in the old Superman comics, he might be banished back to the 5th dimension for 90 days.

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        • Timberrrrrr......
          Timberrrrrr...... 9 December, 2014, 09:34

          And when the truth is spoken here comes the personal attacks and accusations of double-agent posters. No room for debate. Just get rid of the messenger. Let’s not talk about the actual REAL problems that are clearly communicated. ricky65 says let’s just eliminate him. Oh, and the moniker ‘Timberrrrrr’ is not about “bring-it-all-down-man”. You are mischaracterizing it’s meaning. Another propoganda technique to demean someone with a different opinion. The last thing I want is for our way of life to crash. It is simply an observation that based on our social and economic patterns (tangible data) that have been fueled by irresponsible (and in many cases ‘lawless’) government and big business our beloved way of life appears to be flailing in the wind and ready to come down without the consent of we citizens. I simply want our nation that I love restored back to the state of grace that I knew as a child and returned to civilized order without our highest leaders making reckless and ill-conceived decisions that have grave adverse consequences on the quality of our lives and our civil liberties. So don’t be a provacateur and put words in my mouth, ricky65. If anyone should be banned it should be folks like you.

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        • Timberrrrrr......
          Timberrrrrr...... 9 December, 2014, 09:40

          BTW, ricky65. Are you sure you’re not just another sockpuppet for the T-man who couldn’t hold his own in our previous on-line debate??? 😉 If so, no wonder you’re so full of angst. Who could blame ya??? 🙂

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        • S Moderation Douglas
          S Moderation Douglas 9 December, 2014, 18:47

          Hah!!

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        • Ted
          Ted "Eddy Baby" Steele, Associate Prof. 10 December, 2014, 15:26

          Ricky— The OC Oddball thinks I am every poster—-and the argument he thinks he beat me on is one I never actually read— too many long medicated rants…..

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  3. SeeSaw
    SeeSaw 9 December, 2014, 10:36

    Just go back to being Ocobservor, Timberrrrr…That’s where you started and that’s where you should end up. Who needs new handles for the same old rhetoric!

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    • Timberrrrrr......
      Timberrrrrr...... 9 December, 2014, 11:38

      Another empty voice from the liberal wilderness. The all-knowing, omniscent Seesaw. You should pick up where Ms. Cleo left off, dear. Why can’t you folks engage in a civil public debate of the issues instead of always demeaning and attacking other posters who hold different opinions than your own? You promote free speech about as much I promote Obama as King of the World.

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      • SkippingDog
        SkippingDog 9 December, 2014, 11:51

        Is that really you, observer? Did Seiler let you back in after your flame-out, or did you just change your name and sneak under the door?

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        • Timberrrrrr......
          Timberrrrrr...... 9 December, 2014, 12:43

          SK Doggy – I’ve bounced you around on this discussion board like a ping-pong ball. Your head must be in a fog. I dissect your arguments and feed them back to you on a dirty spoon. Donkey tells me that apparently you were in charge of some police department? If true, that just makes me laugh. For someone like you to rise to such a position tells me everything I need to know about just how broken and pathetic our system truly is. You can’t even hold your own in an intellectual debate with me. I walk all over you like a freshly laid carpet, pal. What a precious bureaucrat you must have been!!! Did your colleagues call you “Barney” by chance??? 😀

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          • SkippingDog
            SkippingDog 9 December, 2014, 18:21

            You really need to talk to your doctor about your anti-psychotic medications before you flame out again and Seiler bans you one more time. Your claim of either intellectual debate or superiority is clearly delusional. The best you’ve ever had is nothing more than an unfocused and meandering rant about the vast conspiracy you believe keeps you from having any social relevance.

            Party on, Tim, but don’t confuse your hallucinations with reality. Nobody else does.

          • Timberrrrrr......
            Timberrrrrr...... 9 December, 2014, 23:05

            Way back when you first created your moniker you obviously had lucid thoughts that were based in reality. Afterall, you called yourself a ‘Dog’. But that was a long time ago. Gradually you have lost touch. And now you appear to be hanging only by a thread. Is it really true that you were in charge of a PD? Now that’s laughable. If you don’t mind me asking, which one? I want to make a point to circumvent that city whenever possible. It’s fun to watch keystone cops on TV. But it would be unnerving to enter a city that actually puts them out on the street to protect the public. Were all your underling cops required to sport the pencil-thin style mustaches? 😀

          • Ted
            Ted "Eddy Baby" Steele, Associate Prof. 10 December, 2014, 07:37

            OC Oddball– you seem very interested in policemen….hmmmmm……did you flunk the psych test? Or have some fantasies? Or a rap sheet that has required dealing with officers?

            LMAO—- read ya like a book little buddy!

          • Skippingdog
            Skippingdog 10 December, 2014, 15:37

            Nice to see you free associating your thoughts today, Tim. Unfortunately, they still don’t make any sense. Keep pounding that keyboard and conjuring up conspiracy theories to fit whatever bizarre worldview pops into your mind on any given day. You’ve long since passed from somewhat amusing to pathetic, and your flame-out is only a question of when, not if.

          • Timberrrrrr......
            Timberrrrrr...... 10 December, 2014, 17:56

            I suspect you ate a few too many maple bars and bear claws during your illustrious career, SK doggy. Maybe an accumulation of gunk in your cerbral vessels. Try doing some crossword puzzles. Maybe you can burn it out. I don’t deal in conspiracy theories. Only facts. To date you haven’t been able to refute any of them, old boy. All you got are lackluster insults that I would expect from a 6 year old. Oh, and btw, who the heck is “Tim”? One of your imaginary playmates??? 😀

          • SkippingDog
            SkippingDog 10 December, 2014, 18:23

            It’s not possible to disprove a negative, which is what every conspiracy theorist like you relies upon. In rational discussion, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence to support them. Since you never provide anything other than crackpot conjecture and wild claims, there’s no way to evaluate your posts other than remembering Billy Joel’s famous admonition: “You should never argue with a crazy man man man – you ought to know by now.”

          • Donkey
            Donkey 11 December, 2014, 05:54

            Stick it to the RAGWUS feeders Timberrr!! I love reading your thoughts!! 🙂

      • SeeSas
        SeeSas 9 December, 2014, 12:24

        Who is demeaning and attacking–I am just stating a fact. You have changed your handle numerous times and you are still the same person. I have kept the same handle since you were Ocobservor. If you feel the stating of those facts are demeaning to you–too bad, so sad. I have no idea who Ms. Cleo is.

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        • Timberrrrrr......
          Timberrrrrr...... 9 December, 2014, 14:35

          You are guessing. You are shooting in the dark, as usual. And then you apparently change your moniker to “SeeSas” while calling the kettle black. How funny is that? Look at your buddy Ted. He must have at least 5 different monikers just on this website. Why don’t you attack him? Oh wait….you support Ted’s ideology, doncha!!! Too funny!!! You expose your real persona whenever you make a comment, SeeSas! The hypocrisy is over the top. And you’re so easy to disrespect (especially as you disrespect others). Low hanging fruit. Have a nice day.

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          • SeeSaw
            SeeSaw 9 December, 2014, 17:02

            It was a typo–surely you are not so dense you didn’t realize that! There is no reason for me to attack Ted. He is normal!

          • Timberrrrrr......
            Timberrrrrr...... 9 December, 2014, 17:13

            Good God, SeeSas. Apparently, you’ve forgotten what ‘normal’ is. My deceased uncle was a falling down drunk. He thought wetting the bed was ‘normal’. He thought hiding the bottle behind the toilet was ‘normal’. He thought seeing non-existent green bugs walking up and down the walls was ‘normal’ after he drank a fifth of Seagrams in 90 minutes. It’s always amazed me how humans can rationalize ‘normal’. Wake up, girl.

          • Ted
            Ted "Eddy Baby" Steele, Associate Prof. 10 December, 2014, 07:35

            I KNEW you had bed wetting DNA OC Oddball! LMAO

  4. T Mind of Ted Your God
    T Mind of Ted Your God 9 December, 2014, 12:10

    LOL
    The OC Oddball–

    Only a matter of time before she self destructs yet again under a new name!!!!!

    NOT the sharpest tool in the shed!

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    • Timberrrrrr......
      Timberrrrrr...... 9 December, 2014, 12:33

      I noticed you pulled out of our little debate above, Teddysmal. Did your big boy pants suddenly develop a large rip down the seam??? 😀

      So now that I thoroughly took you to task and destroyed your argument – you resort back to your empty and vacuous personal attacks. Typical. Uncivil and caustic character is impossible to hide. Sooner or later it always rears it’s ugly head. Thank you for exposing yourself. 😀

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      • t Mind of Ted Your God
        t Mind of Ted Your God 9 December, 2014, 19:35

        Are you kidding OC Oddball? Do you think I, or anyone out here, actually reads your rants?

        Bwahahahah LMAO

        Oh man let me catch my breath

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        • Timberrrrrr......
          Timberrrrrr...... 9 December, 2014, 23:27

          You gave it your best effort. But let’s face it. You lost. All the facts were on my side. Being a loser is nothing to be ashamed of. Besides, aren’t you desensitized to it by this time? 😀

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  5. S Moderation Douglas
    S Moderation Douglas 9 December, 2014, 18:55

    Hilarious.

    I tried reading just the first and last sentence in each post. Still too much.

    Thank you for exposing yourself?

    Hah !!!

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    • Timberrrrrr......
      Timberrrrrr...... 9 December, 2014, 23:23

      Oh, just for the record….’exposing’ was used in context of inner character, not body parts. It didn’t even come to mind until you mimicked the phrase over again. But it’s interesting how the human mind differs from one person to the next. We tend to assign words meanings that have the most relevance to our individual lives. Sort of like taking the classic Rorschach test, which is still used to this day. Enjoy your evening.

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      • Donkey
        Donkey 11 December, 2014, 05:58

        That would be S&Md Timberrr! As a retired RAGWUS feeder he has exposed himself many times. 🙂

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  6. Timberrrrrr......
    Timberrrrrr...... 10 December, 2014, 10:07

    The Republicans didn’t have to ruin Obama. Obama did a great job of that on his own. Here is a list of the reasons that Obama will go down as the worst POTUS is US history:

    (1) Lied about his role in immigration reform and completely dismissed the role of congress, like that of a King.
    (2) Ruined US foreign relations (Benghazi, drones killing school children in Pakistan, NSA spying on allied leaders, etc…)
    (3) Illegally attacked both Libya and Syria (no international legal authority) as our Nobel Peace Prize winner and set up the assassination of Libya’s President in violation of the Geneva Convention.
    (4) Supplied arms to terrorists who want to destroy America (ie. rebels in both Libya and Syria)
    (5) Released 5 brutal muslim terrorists from GITMO who were directly or indirectly involved in 911.
    (6) Lied repeatedly about ObamaCare to the American citizens to get it approved. The latest Gruber statements confirm that it was a scam from the very start.
    (7) IRS scandal that targeted political opponents. No one jailed.
    (8) Lied about sequester cuts to the budget.
    (9) Benghazi – lied about what caused it. Tried to blame an innocent film maker. Susan Rice lied for him on National TV.
    (10) Solydra – no one jailed.
    (11) Fast and Furious – no one jailed.
    (12) Seals all his academic records (what’s a scholar to hide? Hmmm?)
    (13) Failed to prosecute the Black Panthers for voter intimidation.
    (14) GM (government motors) bailout.
    (15) Hired a tax cheat (Tim Geithner) to run the Treasury Dept and IRS.
    (16) Lied about putting bills on-line for citizens to read 5 days in advance of a vote.
    (17) His Atty General lied under oath re: Fast and Furious. Keeps job. No prosecution.
    (18) Donald Clapper, Dir of Intelligence, lied under oath re: NSA spying. Keeps job. No prosecution.
    (19) Allows NSA to engage in widespread domestic spying on innocent US citizens without a warrant or consent of the victims.
    (20) Sued AZ over SB 1070 (citizens trying to protect their state against illegal invasion) – then allows California to pass the “Trust Act” (prohibits jailers from deporting criminals who illegally invaded our state) without any Federal lawsuit whatsoever.
    (21) Allowed NSA to spy on AP journalists to dig up dirt and control their article content.

    My fingers are getting tired from typing. But I’ve got more if you need them. Obama is the biggest rogue POTUS in US history!!!! And he’s still got 2 years left in office!!!! GOD HELP AMERICA!!!!

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    • Donkey
      Donkey 11 December, 2014, 06:07

      Nice list Tinberrrr, but I assure you not one of the RAGWUS feeders on CDW can handle more than one of your Obama failures a month, the main reason these low IQ clowns believe all is well in California. 🙂

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  7. Timberrrrrr......
    Timberrrrrr...... 10 December, 2014, 18:05

    As usual, you got nothing. You know that I deal in facts and you can’t handle it. The 21 bullet points above are all fact based. And I got 21 more if you need them. Your boy Obama is a total failure. He’ll go down in history as 10x’s worse than Jimmy Carter. Everything he touches turns to turds. Domestically and internationally. And he lies like a drunken Russian sailor at the poker table. He’s hated across the globe and looked upon as a buffoon. If we didn’t have 8000 nuclear warheads they’d all call him Bozo to his face. 🙂

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  8. Ted
    Ted "Eddy Baby" Steele, Associate Prof. 10 December, 2014, 19:21

    LOL
    No need to respond to the medicated goofy diatribe you belched up!

    Have you ever seen the writing of a 5150? Small, detailed, off base and ranty….well….just like yours little buddy!

    1, 3,5,6,7,8,10,11,13,14 etc are just goofy and incorrect—- you watch WAAAAAAY too much Sean Hannity little buddy!

    But thanks for trying!

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  9. Ted
    Ted "Eddy Baby" Steele, Associate Prof. 10 December, 2014, 19:26

    Oh—- and what President has not done half of the type things that are your loony list? Name him……I’m waiting……

    probably be awhile as you google yet another wasted night away in your single wide…..

    Benghazi????? LMAO NOW I know you you’re in love with Hannity! LMAO !!!!!!

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    • Timberrrrrr......
      Timberrrrrr...... 10 December, 2014, 22:14

      There’s no POTUS who has told so many lies, screwed up so many critical domestic and international policies and failed in so many areas as an executive in the history of the United States as Obama. He will be a huge stain on the history of our nation. The latest is a great probability there’s going to be a clawback on Federal Obamacare subsidies paid to all citizens who live in a state without a healthcare exchange! That will be the end of Obamacare!!! The SCOTUS is going to rule on it in 2015. Obamacare wasa the worst decision made by the nation’s executive office since Nixon’s Watergate. Harvard law school and Chicago University law prof??? The dummy can’t even follow the US Constitution!

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  10. Ted
    Ted "Eddy Baby" Steele, Associate Prof. 10 December, 2014, 19:27

    The OC Observer is BACK !!!!!! LOL

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