‘Liberal’ 9th Circuit backs government spying

big-brother-is-watching-you4June 10, 2013

By John Seiler

The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals is supposed to be the most liberal in the country.

And liberalism is supposed to defend personal privacy. For example, the 1973 Roe vs. Wade abortion decision by the U.S. Supreme Court was based on the “right to privacy.” Here’s an exact quote from the decision: “…the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, which protects against state action the right to privacy….”

Now this report from Salon:

“Today, amidst all the other news about the government’s vast surveillance network, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in California dismissed a case brought seven years ago against the National Security Agency’s warrantless wiretapping program. The dismissal essentially affirms the “big catch-22″ that makes it nearly impossible for American citizens to sue their government for spying on them.

“Among other things, the Center for Constitutional Rights coordinates the legel defense of the hundreds of detainees held at the Guantanamo Bay prison camp. After the New York Times revealed the NSA’s warrantless wiretapping program in late 2005, CCR had reason to believe that the agency had intercepted its attorneys calls and emails with people outside the U.S., including clients, clients’ families, outside attorneys, potential witnesses, and others.

“So in 2006 they sued, asking a federal court for an injunction to stop the program and naming George W. Bush, the head of the NSA, and the heads of other intelligence agencies as defendants. The government eventually ended that program, so CCR now wanted the court to force the government to destroy any records of surveillance that the intelligence agencies may still have retained from its old illegal wiretapping program.”

Here’s the key: The Ninth Circuit, however “liberal,” is part of the government. So it’s the government letting the government do whatever the government wants.

There really is no “right of privacy.” Only the “right” of the government, including the “liberal” Ninth Circuit, to interpret the Bill of Rights and the rest of the Constitution however it wishes, meaning in favor of the government.

Which means, logically, that this government is not a government of free people, meaning that the government itself is entirely illegitimate.



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  1. jimmydeeoc
    jimmydeeoc 11 June, 2013, 00:48

    The problem goes beyond the 9th being a “part” of government. The real and very serious problem is that the 9th <> government.

    Ninth Circuit: There’s only one Ninth Circuit.

    James Temple: How do you account for it?

    Frank McCloud: He knows what he wants. Don’t you, Ninth Circuit?

    Ninth Circuit: Sure.

    James Temple: What’s that?

    Frank McCloud: Tell him, Ninth Circuit.

    Ninth Circuit: Well, I want uh …

    Frank McCloud: He wants more government, don’t you, Ninth Circuit?

    Ninth Circuit: Yeah. That’s it. More government. That’s right! I want more government!

    James Temple: Will you ever get enough?

    Frank McCloud: Will you, Ninth Circuit?

    Ninth Circuit: Well, I never have. No, I guess I won’t. You, do you know what you want?

    Frank McCloud: Yes, I had hopes once, but I gave them up.

    Ninth Circuit: Hopes for what?

    Frank McCloud: A world in which there’s no place for the Ninth Circuit.

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  2. jimmydeeoc
    jimmydeeoc 11 June, 2013, 00:54

    That was: The 9th HEARTS government, at the beginning….

    I hope most of you recognize that little piece of dialogue, from Warner Brothers about 65 years ago……lol

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  3. stolson
    stolson 11 June, 2013, 07:39

    well how will they spy on these criminals???? Seems no one is checking including NSA.

    The Mexican cartels have launched a recruiting drive at U.S. prisons to expand their ranks as reported by Seth Ferranti for the Daily Beast:

    “Mexican cartels are identifying and recruiting talent in American prisons, seeking “free agents” to connect on their release with their south-of-the-border counterparts in the ever-expanding drug job market. Think of it as a jailhouse draft, where the year’s crop of coming releases can showcase their skills to multinational drug conglomerates in need of bodies and criminal talent.”

    The Mexican cartels move $50 billion in bulk product and bundled cash across the border each year, and have established supply lines, distribution networks and operational cells in hundreds of communities throughout the United States.

    The U.S. government clearly lacks the ability to act against the Mexican cartels.

    Although the Obama Administration insists that there is no spillover violence from rival drug cartels for control over smuggling routes the dead bodies on the north side of the border — including rancher Rob Krentz and border patrol agent Brian Terry — stubbornly belie the President’s absurd claim. Earlier this month border patrol agents discovered five bodies which were buried in the Arizona desert along a smuggling corridor.

    Meanwhile, on the south side of the border, the cartels control vast regions including the western state of Michoacan according to one exacerbated official as reported by Tracy Wilkinson for the Los Angeles Times: “There is no government here. There is no state. There is no law.” The collapse of government in Michoacan has resulted in citizens arming themselves for protection against the cartels, and some fear an outbreak of civil war.

    from Friends of Ours

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  4. Hondo
    Hondo 11 June, 2013, 08:13

    I have already heard that this info that the NSA has collected has already been misused. I trust the NSA as much as I trust the IRS.
    The 9th circuit has always been aligned to the USSR. Now they are trying to turn us into the USSA. They have done so.

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