Six Californias?

Six Californias?

Six CaliforniasDissatisfaction with the current state of California continues to spread. The latest idea: Split the mega-state into six smaller states. It comes from tech investor Tim Draper:

“TechCrunch has learned about noted technology investor Tim Draper’s plan to split California into six separate states, including a Northern California slice appropriately named “Silicon Valley.”

“Draper shared his vision with TechCrunch tonight. He says he’s submitting a polished version to the state’s Attorney General in the form of a ballot proposition proposal within the next 48 hours. ‘Six Californias‘ already has a campaign website up and is eager for an army of volunteers.”

The six states would be: Jefferson (blue color in the map above), North California (purple), Central California (Red/Orange), Silicon Valley (Yellow), West California (Green), South California (gold).

It makes sense. Why should liberal Silicon Valley/San Francisco have to put up with conservative Orange County, and vice versa? California is the most diverse place in the history of the globe. Yet different people are forced to live under the same, unified political structure.

If it passed, a bigger problem would be getting it through the U.S. Congress. Most other Americans already have problems with one California and wouldn’t cotton on to having five more. The division would give ex-California 12 U.S. Senators instead of two, and increase its clout in the Electoral College.

Assuming the Draper map is what would happen, it probably would favor Republicans. The state’s most liberal areas would be situated in Silicon Valley and West California. The other four new “states” would include fairly conservative areas. So at least a couple of the new “states” might elect U.S. Senators and governors, and favor the GOP in the presidential races.

So Democrats would be against the initiative.


Another problem is that the state’s top politicians would be against it because currently anyone who is the California governor or senator of a state of 38 million people automatically is a possible contender for president or vice president. Jerry Brown started running for president right after he was elected governor in 1974. Almost three decades later, he’s still not ruling out a run.

Arnold Schwarzenegger, even though the U.S. Constitution prohibited him from running for president because he was born in a foreign country, was maneuvering to amend the Constitution to let him run when his governorship imploded, making him a pariah.

Chop that 38 million people into six smaller portions, and the ex-state’s clout drops fast.

But you never know. The state currently is ungovernable. It isn’t “back,” as Brown contends. The national economy recovery, pathetic as it is, only has delayed the state’s financial meltdown.

When the meltdown occurs, then might be the ripe time for a multiple divorce.



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  1. SeeSaw
    SeeSaw 21 December, 2013, 10:03

    Stop with such silliness! There is and only will be one California!

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    • Vassar
      Vassar 22 December, 2013, 17:03

      Come on, we’ve had at least two Californias since 1769 when the Spanish divided “The Californians” into Alta and Baja. Alta got split into about a half-dozen US states 160 years ago… there is definitely more than one California.

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  2. LetitCollapse
    LetitCollapse 21 December, 2013, 11:00

    I would vote for this change in a heartbeat. The problem is that many liberals would relocate to the new conservative states because there would be no more conservative money to support their social programs and government give-a-way scams, even if it meant they would have to cross state lines every day to get to their government jobs. And once they relocated to conservative states their sheer numbers would start to turn the conservative states into liberal states. The liberals don’t like conservative politics. But they love conservative money to finance their government jobs and social programs. Liberals are incapable of managing a government left on their own accord. Look at the mess in Los Angeles. Look at NYC. Look at Detroit. That’s what happens when liberals are put in charge of government. Sooner or later the conservative are forced to come to the rescue and bail them out.

    You could bet the house that all the rich high-brow liberals living in their Hollywood mansions and with ocean views on the coast in West California would fight this proposal tooth and nail. Why? Because their taxes would go to the moon to support big government and the welfare state. And they would want no part of that.

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  3. Cneder
    Cneder 21 December, 2013, 12:25

    This is so desperately needed.

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  4. SeeSaw
    SeeSaw 21 December, 2013, 14:51

    Find the states in the 50 that most fit with your own political ideology, if you want that to be the only factor that guides your life, pick one and take up residence there. The diversity of CA is only one of its many stong points. I was raised in WY, a very Republican/conservative state–that fact does not keep me from spending time there with friends and relatives who look at politics different than I–we many more interesting things to talk about. You could never get me to leave CA–my one CA!

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    • LetitCollapse
      LetitCollapse 21 December, 2013, 15:36

      Good. When we divide into 6 states you can go live in West California and eat your own cooking. You can pay through the nose to support all the illegals and the big government in L.A. If you love the ideology – go live in it. No conservatives will bother you. But don’t come to the conservatives for handouts either. Deal? See how you like it.

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    • Dyspeptic
      Dyspeptic 23 December, 2013, 16:38

      You interlopers are all the same. It’s collectivist basket cases like you that have ruined MY California. Go live in a fascist state like New Jersey or New York and leave this state to real Californians who value their liberty more than the latest brain dead social trend.

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  5. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 21 December, 2013, 15:52

    SeeSaw never get whipped up by these Doom and Gloom articles….they are fantasy like Downtown Disneyland….no one believes a word said on this site….it is comic relief for us all….enjoy!

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  6. SeeSaw
    SeeSaw 21 December, 2013, 22:05

    I am a moderate LIC–that’s really the best way to be I have never asked for a dime from you or your ilk. I never chose where I live according to any political ideology anyway–its only people like you who do that. CA is never going to be divided anyway–the crazies like you are in the minority–thank god.

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  7. LetitCollapse
    LetitCollapse 22 December, 2013, 17:24

    I watched CNN’s Anthony Bourdain do an hour segment on the City of Detroit the other day. I had no idea the damage the liberals did to that city. 88,000 vacant buildings. lol. You can buy a home for $500. lol. No misprint. $500. lol. There are 14 arson fires each day in Detroit. People burning down vacant homes for the insurance money. lol. They only investigate a small number of the arsons since there’s no money to fund the investigations. lol. Squatters and the homeless are living in the old bankrupted automobile manufacturing plants. lol. This Bourdain guy travels all around the world and does documentaries. He said that the only other city in the world that he’s visited that resembled Detroit was Chernobyl, Russia after the nuke power plant meltdown. lol. Vacant skyscrapers line the downtown skyline. lol. Bourdain said it was like visiting the ruins of ancient Rome. lol.

    You see, this is what liberalism gone wild does to a society, folks. It is one of America’s biggest embarrassments. Like the crazy uncle you hide in the spare bedroom at the family gathering on Thanksgiving.

    Liberalism is responsible for Detroit. And there is NO dispute about that. It’s not my opinion. It’s a fact. Los Angeles and NYC are not far behind. Same church, different pews. lol.

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  8. SeeSaw
    SeeSaw 22 December, 2013, 21:03

    You think that criminals and liberals are synonymous, LIC. Well, they are not! You have OCD complex when it comes to hating certain groups of people.

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    • LetitCollapse
      LetitCollapse 22 December, 2013, 22:14

      Why do you progressives play the ‘hate card’ and make stuff up about what other people say when you can’t come up with a decent rebuttal? If you can’t come back with a respectable argument, zip it.

      My statement was simple and straightforward and unambiguous. Detroit is a liberal creation. And look at the results today. Financial ruin and utter disaster. A product of fanatic liberalism gone mad.

      All public schools should be mandated to teach high school seniors about what destroyed the City of Detroit. It should be a required case study in poli sci or civics class. It’s time the kids were taught the truth.

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      • Ian Random
        Ian Random 25 December, 2013, 01:42

        I read somewhere that everyone that didn’t leave the state, moved to Oakland county right next door. At some point the taxes in a place get so high as to “pay” you to leave.

        Repeat after me. Disagreement does not equal hate. Like the guy that didn’t want to bake a lesbian marriage cake, but would bake a birthday cake.

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  9. Bobnormal
    Bobnormal 23 December, 2013, 08:56

    As long As Ontario is on the South side of the line, I’m fine with it, we don’t need L.A. Not even their airport,

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  10. billyBS
    billyBS 23 December, 2013, 09:42

    Do not see that See Saw notes she earned a govt pension and expects every cent of it to paid in full. Isn t that true, Madame?

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  11. Queeg
    Queeg 23 December, 2013, 10:22

    This is absurd!

    You all sound like goose stepping opportunists licking your chops to form VICHY oppressive governments…..just load the hapless into box cars for the final ride into oblivion….. for those who do not agree with your fanatical beliefs……

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    • Dyspeptic
      Dyspeptic 23 December, 2013, 16:47

      Queeg, what the hell are you talking about? Go chew your cud with the rest of the ungulates and stop worrying about complicated topics like this. You know I’m right.

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  12. Dyspeptic
    Dyspeptic 23 December, 2013, 16:59

    Where’s the petition? I’ll sign right now! This idea of splitting up Crazyfornia is so good that it will never happen. The political obstacles would be enormous. Needless to say the predatory “Progressive” Oligarchs who run the state would pull out all of the stops to prevent it. The timorous Republican establishment would see it as too radical and would probably side with the Demonrats to put the kibosh on it.

    Too bad because I would love to disassociate myself from the Libtard cranks who have ruined my state.

    Why do you lefties oppose this? I thought you were for diversity. Wouldn’t 5 more states bring much needed political diversity to the left coast, most of which is greedily hogged by California?

    Yay for diversity and change, boo for the status quo.

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  13. Queeg
    Queeg 23 December, 2013, 18:07

    Dys….Merry Christmas…..

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  14. Wayne
    Wayne 8 January, 2014, 07:59

    I want to sign the petition to vote for the six states of CA! That is the only way farming in Central CA can live during drought years!

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  15. paul miller
    paul miller 1 November, 2014, 08:08

    c’mon… take a reality break here. re-combine all the 58 counties into 6 super counties and save the cost of 52 county executives and county councils. BUILD BRIDGES NOT WALLS!

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