CA advances driver’s licenses for illegals

CA advances driver’s licenses for illegals

Jerry Brown, Prop. 1 adDespite incomplete approval from the federal government, California has begun forging ahead with driver’s licenses for immigrants who are illegally present in California.

A bill signed into law last year, Assembly Bill 60, was subject to additional requirements by the Department of Homeland Security. DHS officials were concerned the licenses failed to distinguish adequately between those who were present legally and those who were not.

California officials have adopted some of the changes demanded by DHS, but not others. Now, California’s old legislative framework, which permitted unlawful immigrants to apply for licenses had they immigrated as children, will be replaced by a broader, open regime that has the state Department of Motor Vehicles scrambling to meet the anticipated demand.

Years of preparation

Gov. Jerry Brown signed AB60 into law in October 2013. But it had been the focus of legislative attention in California for years.

The previous governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger, vetoed a similar law. Since that time, a political movement spanning many states pursued driver’s licenses for unlawful immigrants. Washington, Oregon and New Mexico have adopted similar programs, with a total of 10 states embracing the legal gray area that results.

The political push at the state level developed out of the failure of Democrats to deliver a comprehensive federal immigration reform bill that would liberalize laws and give unlawful immigrants a more protected and official status. Brown, riding the wave, said he hoped AB60 represented just a “first step” for California that other states would be inspired to follow.

An unready bureaucracy

Although the development of the licenses has long been on the horizon, state officials faced with the task of implementing AB60 have not had a long time to prepare. Earlier this month, the Los Angeles Times reported, the DMV was considering opening “up to six temporary offices to handle the estimated 1.4 million immigrants who are expected to apply in the next three years.” Southern California Public Radio has now confirmed the DMV “has hired more than 400 people and plans to bring on another 500 by January.”

The “huge undertaking,” as spokeswoman Jessica Gonzalez explained, has focused on four temporary sites, located in Granada Hills, Lompoc, San Jose and Stanton. All four locations have been locked in for a three-year span, with an option for renewal contingent on demand. According to Gonzalez, as many as 1,000 new DMV hires have been budgeted in by Brown.

Adding to the bureaucratic load, “DMV employees are also required to undergo a fresh round of diversity training to prepare for the immigrant applicants.”

Legal wrangling

The implementation of AB60 has been launched without every legal detail being squared away. As the Press-Enterprise reported, federal government requirements added to the process set forth in AB60 aimed to ensure the new licenses were not used — or usable — as identification at the airport and in other security situations.

“The new license includes a statement on the front that ‘Federal Limits Apply’ and on the back that ‘This card is not acceptable for official federal purposes,” according to the Press-Enterprise. “This license is issued only as a license to drive a motor vehicle. It does not establish eligibility for employment, voter registration, or public benefits.'”

Some federal requirements, however, have simply been ignored. The “unique design or color” demanded by regulators has apparently been bypassed by California officials. “DMV spokeswoman Jessica Gonzalez said the agency isn’t worried that Homeland Security will reject the design,” according to the Press-Enterprise.

Meanwhile, groups pushing to smooth the way for unlawful immigrants “believe that a license with a different color or design could lead to discrimination … causing many of them to not apply for the new license. … After DMV issued an initial set of guidelines indicating which forms of identification would be acceptable for obtaining a new license, immigration activists in the Inland area and elsewhere criticized the DMV’s preliminary requirements as too burdensome and, in some cases, costly.”

The requirements have duly been loosened, with as little as one piece of identification being considered to get a license.

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  1. LetitCollapse
    LetitCollapse 22 October, 2014, 12:19

    This just goes to show how much utter contempt these political swine have for the common citizen and rule of law. The Census Bureau has already ranked California as the #1 poverty saturated state in the entire union, with 1 in 4 residents impoverished. And what do these fracken swine do? They hand out drivers licenses to criminal indigent foreign aliens living in our neighborhoods – thus AIDING AND ABETTING known criminals and encouraging MORE foreign criminals to break into our state, steal our jobs and leech off our resources. Absolutely reprehensible when these same swine are SWORN UNDER OATH to uphold the damn laws! So why should the rest of us respect the laws if the very ones who enact the laws encourage others to violate them? The ones who enact the laws don’t respect our laws – why the hell should we? This state and nation are being ripped apart at the seams. I don’t even recognize this country anymore. The swine are destroying it piece by piece. And the American citizens roll over and allow themselves to get screwed, blued and tatooed. This used to be a beautiful country with beautiful people. We’ve turned into a nation of spineless whimps. Deplorable! 🙁

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    • DanG
      DanG 7 November, 2014, 02:38

      Why are we encouraging people to come here illegally and give them Drivers License? You’r right these lawmakers are political Swine. You know what though, its going to come back and bite them in the butt.

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    • DanG
      DanG 7 November, 2014, 02:55

      There is really no need to even argue with these people on here who think its a good idea to let illegals come here and get a Drivers License. If they are here illegally why are we allowing them to drive? In other words, Jerry Brown and his swine Liberal cohorts have no regard for rule of law. Im born and raised in California and Im going to sell my home and get the hell out of here. Let them come in and take the State. This is just insane.

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  2. T Ted E-- Mind of your Godhead Ted
    T Ted E-- Mind of your Godhead Ted 22 October, 2014, 12:56

    OK!

    It’s about time we did this!

    These aliens are hard workers and do the jobs that the lazy Americans fell are waaaaaay beneath them. These folks need licenses to drive to job interviews or jobs or whatever! I say welcome alien drivers!

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    • LetitCollapse
      LetitCollapse 22 October, 2014, 13:24

      I had no idea that you had that much hate and contempt for your fellow American citizens. Sad. Why don’t you expatriate and live amongst the people who are breaking into our country and stealing our jobs if you love them as much as you indicate? I would gladly trade you for one of them! 😀

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    • Jeff W
      Jeff W 28 December, 2014, 12:20

      It’s against the law to hire an ILLEGAL ! Why do they need to drive to a job, or interview? It’s ILLEGAL to hire them!

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    • Jeff W
      Jeff W 28 December, 2014, 12:28

      I have no problem with the ILLEGAL people. My family immigrated to America. We stood at the front door and asked to come in. We promised to be good Americans. We learned the language. We blended in to the American culture. We became citizens. We pay taxes. We are not a burden on America.
      My BEEF is with the politicians! This bill was not passed to help the immigrants! It was passed to provide a windfall of income for the Insurance Companies. They CAN AND WILL charge a premium for first time drivers. Other than paying into campaign funds to elect crooked politicians, they are not paying any of the expense the taxpayers are paying to implement this bill!

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      • summer
        summer 25 January, 2015, 14:40

        My grandparents came from Italy, they became American citizens and worked hard. They didn’t come here looking for a hand out, and didn’t expect special privileges. Anyway, I sure as Hell don’t appreciate having to support these illegal freeloaders.

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  3. Desmond
    Desmond 22 October, 2014, 13:04

    Agreed. There is $300 bill or so with Calpers that needs to dispensed to the new citizens along with their Driver’s licenceses. What was that called at one time, a Welcome Wagon? What a country!!

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    • T Ted E-- Mind of your Godhead Ted
      T Ted E-- Mind of your Godhead Ted 22 October, 2014, 13:39

      Collapso an Desmond!

      I guess you two girls are Native Americans? First Nation Canadians? ™

      Reason I ask is that we all came from somewhere else.

      You just like to pull that ladder right up behind you– I indeed welcome the newcomers…..

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      • LetitCollapse
        LetitCollapse 22 October, 2014, 14:36

        My parents were born in America, dummy. And my grandparents immigrated LEGALLY – they didn’t break into our nation, steal jobs and leech off our resources!! See the different yet?? LEGALLY VERSUS ILLEGALLY???? Let that sink in for a few minutes!!! :/

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        • T Ted E-- Mind of your Godhead Ted
          T Ted E-- Mind of your Godhead Ted 22 October, 2014, 22:08

          LOL— Collapso!

          So I guess you think that all the prevolutionary colonists including the revolutionaries who were ALL law violators should have been sent back to England! LMAO what a tool!

          You’re probably right….all of the tired poor huddled masses were perfectly legal! LMAO

          We have NEVER accepted refugees…..lmao

          you make this too easy little buddy!

          Did you flunk high school?

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          • John Seiler
            John Seiler 22 October, 2014, 22:20

            The early Americans from Europe were not immigrants, but settlers.

          • LetitCollapse
            LetitCollapse 22 October, 2014, 22:50

            I had no idea you hated your fellow citizens as much as you do, tedtard. Have you ever visited Guadalajara? I bet you’d like it down there. You’d fit in well. They love gringos. I bet they’d give you free medical and free education and a Mexican DL. If they don’t – go complain to Mexican social services. See what happens! 😀
            Oh, btw, did you pass your HS US history class? The colonists weren’t illegal. They didn’t break into the colonies and steal jobs. They lived there legally for years. Most cities have adult education classes for those who are a little slow. Just tell them you worked in gov most your life. They’ll understand! 😀

          • LetitCollapse
            LetitCollapse 22 October, 2014, 22:53

            “The early Americans from Europe were not immigrants, but settlers.”

            Be patient with him, John. It’s easy to forget basic US history after you’ve lived in the country for over 7 decades. Maybe he has a 12 year old niece or nephew who could tutor him. 😀

          • Bill - San Jose
            Bill - San Jose 23 October, 2014, 09:31

            Driver License will mean voting by illegals enmasse. There is absolutely no way to deny this.

            Other states will have to permit these licenses unless they are labeled as other than legal residents on them.

            I believe that if you support, on paper, this movement, you should also volunteer extra taxes out of your paychecks to cover the subsidies the illegals enjoy. That way, if you feel that strongly about supporting illegal immigration so profoundly you can prove it and put your money where your mouth is.

          • DanG
            DanG 7 November, 2014, 02:49

            You are [expletive deleted]. You obviously did not graduate from High School.
            There is a difference between legal and illegal immigration and When immigrants came to America such as Ellis Island they came here LEGALLY.

      • Fed up w Ted
        Fed up w Ted 27 October, 2014, 18:57

        Including the ones who come back across twice, deal drugs, walk away from debt judgments 3 times and end up shooting 3 lawmen with an illegal AR 15? You welcome those illegals too?

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      • Wolfgang
        Wolfgang 31 December, 2015, 01:40

        We all came from somewhere. But some came legally, with something to offer. Others came as criminals.

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    • SeeSaw
      SeeSaw 22 October, 2014, 19:27

      DL’s for immigrants has nothing to do with CalPERS, Desmond. If there were a hate-wagon you would probably be driving it.

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  4. T Ted E-- Mind of your Godhead Ted
    T Ted E-- Mind of your Godhead Ted 22 October, 2014, 13:39

    Could it be any easier to spin you two up?

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  5. Dork
    Dork 22 October, 2014, 14:03

    This is great news, I will soon be working on an initiative to amend the State Constitution tying All Drivers Licenses to Insurance Requirements.

    Basically it will do two things:
    1. If your Insurance Lapses your PRIVILEGE is Automatically Suspended

    2. If caught Driving with a suspended privilege or NO LICENSE at all, you are Guilty of a Felony, Punishable by a Mandatory 5 years in Prison.

    3. If you are in an accident without Insurance, you are Guilty of a Felony, punishable by a Mandatory 10 years in State Prison and 100% Civil Asset Forfeiture.

    4. All Licensed Drivers who are a Victim of an Unlicensed Driver, Shall be Entitled to Damages and Compensation by the Public Employees as a whole in the State of California. All Monies to be Deducted from their Gross Wages, just like Taxes.

    Since their main argument is and always has been, that if they were licensed, they could get insurance and everybody would be safe and covered.

    So what is your arguments against my proposition?? I would love to hear them.

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    • LetitCollapse
      LetitCollapse 22 October, 2014, 14:44

      Damages? Civil asset forfeiture? These people are INDIGENTS, man! When’s the last time you tried to squeeze blood from a turnip? They laugh at your fines and punishment. Plus, if they land in jail YOU gotta pay for their housing, food and medical care!!! You’re shooting yourself in the foot! The answer is NOT to give them the licenses in the first place.

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    • SeeSaw
      SeeSaw 22 October, 2014, 19:24

      LIC, I doubt it very much that a criminal immigrant is going to apply for a Driver’s License. If I should get in an accident with another driver and vehicle, I would hope that the other driver is licensed. Everyone on the road should be able to drive the vehicle have knowledge of our DMV laws. Requiring everyone behind the wheel to be licensed keeps us all safer.

      Dork, I don’t think that you know how expensive and difficult it is to get an initiative through the signature process, let alone the 50 or 60 million you would need to campaign, if it does get on the ballot. I have watched the transgression of these initiative that begin with the Attorney General, then must go through the signature process, where you will need backing of a couple million. I can guarantee you that an initiative brought forth as the result of personal bigotry will not even make it through the signature process.

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      • LetitCollapse
        LetitCollapse 22 October, 2014, 23:05

        “If I should get in an accident with another driver and vehicle, I would hope that the other driver is licensed.”

        What good is a license if the mexican doesn’t have insurance, seesaw? If an illegal ran into me I wouldn’t give a damn if he had a license. My first question would be “Do you have any insurance or money to fix my car?” The problem is that I wouldn’t know how to say it in spanish. I was born in America. I shouldn’t have to speak spanish. Even if they give them licenses I bet 90% of them still won’t have insurance. And we shouldn’t give them squat. WE SHOULD DEPORT THEM!!!! THEY DON’T DESERVE DL’S! THEY ARE FOREIGN CRIMINALS WHO BROKE INTO OUR COUNTY AND ARE LEECHING OFF OUR RESOURCES! MEXICO DOESN’T ALLOW US TO LEECH OFF THEIR RESOURCES!!! WHY SHOULD WE ALLOW THEM TO LEECH OFF US!!!!

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        • SeeSaw
          SeeSaw 23 October, 2014, 09:45

          An illegal-resident driver with a license would be more likely to be a person who is in this country to have a life, as compared to being a criminal and living a life in Mexico, where people targeted by the drug cartels are being slaughtered right and left. If I were one of those people, especially one with children, I would flee for a better life too.

          I do decry the act of driving around without insurance. In 1989, my spouse’s pickup truck was struck while legally parked on the street in front of our house. The driver, who did have a license, and who was gainfully employed, gave expired insurance information to the inquiring police officer. He paid the $2500+ out of his own pocket to repair our vehicle. Yes, we did let him off easy–nobody was hurt. And our reward was to have our Mercury Insurance policy, fees increased because we had an, “incident”.

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          • Letit Collapse
            Letit Collapse 23 October, 2014, 13:42

            We citizens of the United States should not be expected to solve Mexico’s problems, seesaw. And we should not be held liable to pay for all the poverty that Mexico produces. The mexicans still reproduce like rabbits and create families that they can’t afford to raise. So they break into our country to get all the freebies from our taxpayers. And people like YOU feel sorry for them. IMO you are a bigger problem than they are, since you are a brainwashed American who promotes it all!
            If Mercury had to pay for the partial repair of your car your insurance rates should have been increased. That’s how insurance works. If the $2500 didn’t cover the repairs in full you should have paid the remainder out of pocket to keep your premiums down. Let him off easy? You’re darned lucky you got $2500 from him. He could have told you to bug off and chances are you wouldn’t have gotten a dime. I lived on a street where some unlicensed/uninsured driver who was just released from jail on parole took out 4 parked cars. None of the victims got a dime from the driver. And he didn’t even go to jail!!! I asked the cop at the scene why he wasn’t arrested. He said no one got hurt. 🙂

          • SeeSaw
            SeeSaw 23 October, 2014, 20:39

            He was a legal resident who had worked at his beverage distributing company for years, LIC. He paid every penny of the repair cost out of his own pocket. Mercury did not pay a dime. I only told them about the accident in case we didn’t collect from him and would have to use the uninsured driver coverage. There was no paperwork filed with Mercury–no nothing. They were out of bounds increasing our premiums–that is why we canceled them.

          • LetitCollapse
            LetitCollapse 23 October, 2014, 22:09

            That’s weird, seesaw. I know a car owner with Mercury Ins. who was involved in a freeway accident that someone else caused. Her car was totaled. She didn’t have collision, only basic liability required by law. But the driver at fault had insurance with another company and that company paid for the replacement value of her car. Mercury knew all about it but didn’t pay for anything. And her auto premiums didn’t go up one thin dime. Maybe the law changed after you car was damaged in 1989.

          • Fed up w Ted
            Fed up w Ted 27 October, 2014, 19:07

            It must have been one of your imaginary good souls that crossed back into this country after being deported twice and went on to kill two lawmen this last weekend. You see, if the women and children can cross unimpeded then so can the trash that works for the Sinaloa cartel. Maybe it will be one of your family members who gets car jacked and a bullet in the head.

        • SeeSaw
          SeeSaw 23 October, 2014, 20:33

          I do not believe that one can purchase insurance for their car without supplying their Driver’s License information. They are going to run you through the system to determine how much your premiums will be.

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          • LetitCollapse
            LetitCollapse 23 October, 2014, 21:59

            Yes you can, seesaw. Ask any insurance agent. You don’t have to have a license to purchase auto insurance. Just like you don’t have to be over 21 to buy a liquor cabinet. A 14 year old could purchase auto insurance for your car. He just couldn’t drive it.

  6. LetitCollapse
    LetitCollapse 22 October, 2014, 14:41

    The governor proved that he is an anarchist during his debate with Cashncarry. He said that illegals needed driver’s licenses for transporation to their jobs. Of course, all of us know that it is ILLEGAL UNDER FEDERAL AND STATE LAWS to work in California without authorization. So Jerry Clown is aiding and abetting illegal foreign criminals to violate our State labor laws. Those who aid and abet criminals are criminals themselves. And Clown is supposed to be a lawMAKER, not a lawBREAKER!!!! 😉

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    • SeeSaw
      SeeSaw 22 October, 2014, 19:35

      Oh, come off it, LIC. The Governor is not liberal–he is conservative and pragmatic and you aren’t happy with that. So, you call him an anarchist. You will never be happy, regardless of what position he takes. I go back to the beginning, when the Amnesty was passed in 1986. There was lots of lawbreaking after that, and the lawbreakers were our legal citizens.

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      • LetitCollapse
        LetitCollapse 22 October, 2014, 23:10

        “The Governor is not liberal–he is conservative and pragmatic and you aren’t happy with that.”

        You and tedtard should go to adult education together, seesaw. If you really believe that Jerry Clown is a conservative God help ya!

        Clownboy is an anarchist. He is aiding and abetting foreign criminals to live in California and steal our jobs. Those are TWO crimes right there that clownboy is promoting. So he is an anarchist. And that’s shameful for a public official who took a sworn oath to uphold the laws of the state and federal governments!

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        • SeeSaw
          SeeSaw 28 October, 2014, 10:00

          Anarchists are people who illegally take over the government LIC, not people who run it because the citizens elected them and/or the elected officials properly appointed them! You would be an anarchist if you could get away with it. JB is not in charge of immigration either–get that straight.

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  7. Dork
    Dork 22 October, 2014, 15:05

    UNDER FEDERAL AND STATE LAWS to work in California without authorization. So Jerry Clown is aiding and abetting illegal foreign criminals to violate our State labor laws

    I have been saying this for YEARS.

    The answer is NOT to give them the licenses in the first place.
    I agree, but it’s too late, they have done it.

    So Now the question is, what to do about it?

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    • LetitCollapse
      LetitCollapse 22 October, 2014, 15:46

      Go Galt. Live like a miser. Bankrupt them. Live like an illegal. Take as much as you can. Give nothing in return. Learn from the leeches.

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  8. LetitCollapse
    LetitCollapse 22 October, 2014, 16:33

    I’m no Einstein. But read my comments. I don’t just express feelings – there is a foundation of truth to my comments. Look above ^^^^^. I said that CADL’s for illegals will 1) push our state poverty rate even higher. 2) aid and abet known criminals 3) encourage more illegal indigent criminals to come to California 4) turn our legislators and governor into unprosecutable criminals who aid and abet known criminals 5) hurt law abiding citizens. All true! Once there is a breakdown in the law the entire society begans to crumble. Laws are the stiching that keep the fabric together. When bad people get rewarded and good people get punished – it’s impossible for a civilization to survive. World history told us this over and over and over again. But people are ignorant. They fail to understand that simple principle.

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  9. T Ted E-- Mind of your Godhead Ted
    T Ted E-- Mind of your Godhead Ted 22 October, 2014, 19:19

    Collapso wrote–

    LetitCollapse says:
    October 22, 2014 at 4:33 pm
    I’m no Einstein.

    Well, I agree.

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  10. SeeSaw
    SeeSaw 22 October, 2014, 19:29

    My word, “transgression” does not belong in the comment–so don’t bother correcting me.

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  11. Dork
    Dork 23 October, 2014, 06:41

    Go Galt. Live like a miser. Bankrupt them. Live like an illegal. Take as much as you can. Give nothing in return. Learn from the leeches.

    I am actually in the process of doing that right now.

    I considered the Tax Fraud angle early on, But it would require an Attorney General that actually upheld the Law, Not gonna Happen.
    So my second choice would be to start an Ad campaign demonstrating the STATE aiding and abetting TAX FRAUD at the State Level by granting driving privileges to those here Illegally so they could work Illegally and DEFRAUD the State of Income Tax Revenue. It would be pretty easy to demonstrate the STATE does not Want INCOME TAXES to be PAID, otherwise they would not be encouraging INCOME TAX FRAUD. Coupled with an initiative to Abolish ALL Taxes on Income, Tips and Wages in the State.

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  12. LetitCollapse
    LetitCollapse 23 October, 2014, 08:42

    “So my second choice would be to start an Ad campaign demonstrating the STATE aiding and abetting TAX FRAUD at the State Level by granting driving privileges to those here Illegally so they could work Illegally and DEFRAUD the State of Income Tax Revenue.”

    That’s a great idea if you have money to burn, Dork. If nothing else, at least it would bring awareness to all the mind-numbed sheeple in society of how corrupted our government truly is. The media knows all about this too. But the media conceals it from the people as well. That’s what I find so shameful. The US media is supposed to uncover crap like this and bring it to the attention of the citizens. But the media is owned by the corporations and the government and tossed their journalistic oaths overboard more than a decade ago. They are very selective about what they disclose to the public. But when you have a governor during a campaign debate actually say on TV that illegals needs CADL’s to get to work in the morning – that is so fracken egregious it’s unbelieveable. But apparently it went right over the top of Dan Walter’s head, didn’t it??? 😉

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  13. Queeg
    Queeg 23 October, 2014, 08:53

    Ulysses in China at a seminar on Moving In The Modern Age, How High Speed Rail Transforms China.

    Doomers

    If you dislike California legislative actions….move.

    Some of you chubby, useless old men move your butts to the curb. Change continues. You’re the past. We are sick of your moaning for the good old days!

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  14. LetitCollapse
    LetitCollapse 23 October, 2014, 09:59

    Over at USA today I read that ICE has been lying to congress about the nature of the crimes committed by illegals who are being released back into our communities after they complete their jail time. There are murderers, sexual predators, robbers, assailants, drug dealers, etc… who are ILLEGALLY in the country who ICE is releasing back into our neighborhoods!!! Do you feel safe??? They brainwash you to fear ISIS and ISIL and Ebola and all the rest of the bogeymen. But as they’re brainwashing you they are releasing hardened violent criminals WHO ARE ILLEGALLY IN THE COUNTRY back into your neighborhoods after they do their time in jail!!! HAH! And most of you don’t even know about it!!! And even if you did you’d shrug your shoulders because you’re been indocrtinated and brainwashed!!! THESE CRIMINALS SHOULD BE DEPORTED BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM!!!! THEY ARE MURDERERS, RAPISTS, THIEVES, ASSAILANTS, ROBBERS, etc!!!! But most of you have been anestitized with political correctness and you can’t even decipher right from wrong anymore!!! HAH! LOL! 😀

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  15. T Ted E-- Mind of your Godhead Ted
    T Ted E-- Mind of your Godhead Ted 23 October, 2014, 10:38

    You seem particularly spun up this am little buddy? What gives?

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  16. Bill Gore
    Bill Gore 24 October, 2014, 08:32

    Lots of heat on this issue-as there should be. And what about those onerous, draconian requirements that drivers must also carry proof of insurance and valid registration for the vehicle they are driving? How can a sweet, sober, family-oriented, hard working ‘sin documentos’ be expected to drive to the job that those slovenly fools formerly known as americans won’t do if they have to actually purchase insurance and wait in line at the DMV to register their vehicle? These requirements are clearly racist and must be waived immediately!

    So let’s pull back, way back, for the really big picture doomer-prepper racist nativist patriot clinger view: the USA is now in something called the North American Union, which has been envisioned by think tanks such as the CFR, to be one of the seven world regions that will be encompassed by ‘global governance’. The NAU will only come to life to the extent that national borders and nationalistic identities are dissolved. Since latin american countries tend to be very nationalistic, and (rightly) highly suspicious of anything coming out of the (former) USA, it has been determined that the best course of action is to debase all those little tokens of USA citizenship. This, of course, is a ‘two-fer’: they effectively dissolve the USA border FROM THE USA SIDE (while from the mexican side ‘la frontera’ absolutely still exists to the extent they want it to) and secondly they demoralize, at the ‘molecular level’ the sense of american identity, the hard to define ‘juice’ in the american hamburger. Think of it as Uncle Sam immersed in a moderately stiff 3N solution of Nitric Acid. He’s starting to get a little soft…..

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  17. Nana
    Nana 31 October, 2014, 10:44

    I am Native Born American and I don’t believe in giving free everything to all Illegals or letting them into the USA with out Background checks photo’s finger prints-Health records and speak read write English they are giving them everything free- to them all even Muslims. They get over Two Hundred thousand Muslim’s that is- but these others get cell phones places to stay in- cars and medical and get drivers license’s, executive order’s and if they hurt or kill someone they don’t get transported back home or put in Jail we heard about it from Megan on her show with an attorney. wake up Americans get off the drugs and look around you get our states back now Read PRESIENT Obama HAS SPENT ON HIMSELF AND HOW MUCH HE HAS PUT US IN DEBIT AND HOW MUCH WE PAY FOR EX-PRESENTS WHICH WE SHOULDN’T BE THEY HAVE INVESTMENT AND ROYITIES FROM BOOKS AND OTHER THINGS SO THAT MUST STOP ONCE THEY ALL LEAVE OFFICE T5HEIR ON THEIR OWN THAT GOES FOR ALL SENATORS GOVENORS MAYORS AND SO FORTH WE ARE BEING STABBED IN THE BACK AND IN 2016 80,000 MORE THOUSAND OF MUSLIMS COMING INTO WHAT WE CALL America WILL BE CHANGED AND OUR POOR Military WILL BE FIGHTING FOR WHAT? FREEZE THE MONEY THAT GOES OVER SEE’S AND THE SPENDING OF OUR PRESIDENT NOW CLOSE OUR BORDERS AND NO FOREGIN LAW IN OUR COURTS They want Muslims to run our states and Mexican’s then go live in those countries. if THESE PEOPLE COME HERE WHY DO THEY GET EVERYTHING IS THAT THE WAY THEY RAISE THEIR CHILDREN YOU GET PRAISED FOR CORSSING BORDERS-NO WONDER EVERY RAPPIEST-ROBBER- KIDNAPER AND ISIS’S AND EBOLA AND OTHER ILLNESS’S COME WITH THEM HOMELAND SECURITY DOESN’T STAND UP FOR ANY THING OR STOP THEM COMING HERE NO EXECUTIVE ORDER OR AMNESTY SHOULD BE USED TO GET THESE PEOPLE HERE TO VOTE DEMOCRATE AND THAT IS WHAT IT’S ABOUT AND TO BUY OFF THE BOTHER HOOD AND OTHERS OVER SEA’S AND EVEN WANT THE UN TO TAX THE AMERICANS FOR THE WATER OUR PEOPLE FISH IN AND HAVE CURSE’S AND PLAY IN THAT IS WHAT THE PRESIDENT WANT’S TO CRIPPLE US. SO LET HIM KEEP SPENDING AND ILLEGALS COME HERE AND KILL OUR PEOPLE WHO CARE IF THE HAVE DRUGS WELFARE AND FOOD STAMPS THAT S THE WAY TO KEEP OUR CHILDREN TO FALL BEHIND IN EDUCATION AND JOBS ALL FOR MUSLIM S AND ILLEGALS AND IF YOU THINK I’AM WRONG WAKE UP AND READ AND LOOK BACK AT 2008 DEMACREAT CONVENTION WHEN MRS OBAMA SAID HER AND OBAMA DON’T BELIEVE IN GIVING TO ANY ONE THEY MUST WORK FOR IT,BUNCH OF B ULL TO GET ELECTED GOD BLESS THOSE THAT LOVE THE USA START SHOWING NOT BY KILLING OUR CHILDREN OUR CONFUSED ENOUGH WIR GAY MARIESGES POT AND OPENING UP EVERYTHING FOR OTHERS AND NOT THEIR COUNTRY MEN. AND GIVEN UP ALL OUR HOLIDAYS AND HISORTRY OF AMERICA GOOD AND BAD AND OUR HEOROS DON’T GET MENTIONED ANY MORE OR OUR FAITH LOOK AT SHCOOL MUSLIMS HAVE A SPECIAL ROOMS TO PRAY IN BUT OUR CHILDREN CAN’T THEY CAN’T WEAR SHIRTS WITH GOD BLESS AMERIC IT HURTS THE LATINO’S SO THE TEACHERS SAY WERE DID THEY COME FROM. GOOD LUCK FROLKS AND HAPPY HOLLWEEN TO ALL. DON’T HAVE TO REPLAY IF IT’S GOING TO BE NASTY WE HEAR ENOUGH OF IT EVERY DAY.

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  18. Elena Fuentes
    Elena Fuentes 7 November, 2014, 10:38

    I find funny how you people take the time to post such stupid and hateful comments towards me and the rest of the immigrant community. OK WE ARE ALL CRIMINALS WHO ARE TAKING YOUR JOBS AND REPRODUCING LIKE RABBITS, HAVING 10, 20, 50 KIDS… Sure ok you are right, maybe if all of you expressing your hatred, had some sense of knowledge, y’all would know that most illegal people can not work in law firms, in tech companies, or even at Safeway without a fucking work permit or a social security number. If we come illegally to this country, we come here to cut your grass that y’all are too lazy to do and to clean your houses!! But ok once again WE ARE ALL CRIMINALS. Probably the REAL Americans who are the Native American people thought the same when your ancestors came to this country and killed many of them to take their land and call it YOURS. How funny is that!At least us aliens don’t kill your people, instead we make you guys burritos and tacos and all those foods you stupid hating people love to eat. Thanks to us CRIMINALS you guys are making more money and living in better houses and eating your veggies because we are the ones who pick your fruits and vegetables and almonds and peanuts, etc…!!! So next time you call ME and my People CRIMINALS, DIRTY MEXICANS, and all those names, think of what you’re gonna eat when we all get deported, killed, etc…

    PS: LETITCOLLAPSE, i don’t know who the hell you are and thank god i don’t know you but wake up from the 1950’s or 60’s. This is 2014!!! And if you don’t like us, CRIMINALS, and you’re living in CA, move to Arizona or Alabama or Nebraska or where ever the fuck you want were people like you hate MEXICANS and other ILLEGAL CRIMINALS. or maybe just kill yourself with your hatred and small-minded self!!!!

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    • Wolfgang
      Wolfgang 31 December, 2015, 06:53

      I don’t think any American has a problem with immigrants. Most of us come from immigrant families. What we hate are criminals. But you do not understand that, because your culture and people are worthless animals. What will we do when you are gone? What will happen to the jobs you are doing? We will take them back and be able to feed our kids!

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  19. maya ulliel
    maya ulliel 18 December, 2014, 19:37

    Oh and nana is stupidly supporting those who killed her ancestors and stole their land. Duh!

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  20. Larry Miller
    Larry Miller 22 December, 2014, 20:24

    The Calif. democratic anarchistic controlled state legislature has no power to award drivers licenses to mexican illegals. This is one law that will die a very quick death when the Democratic liberal party becomes extinct at the next general election. California’e demo elected representatives have proven beyond any shadow of a doubt they are collectively dead and should all be forced to relocate to mexico. Nobody with a brain wants them here

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  21. Larry Miller
    Larry Miller 1 January, 2015, 08:39

    California “politicians”, primarily Dumbocrats have been running California into the ground for decades. Jerry Brown is only the latest manifestation of the liberal giveaway mentality which has turned California into a cesspool. Giving illegals drivers license is the height of insanity. Not enough water, higher gasoline taxes are the fault of liberals and no one else. Giving a mexican wetback a drivers license still does not transform an illegal mexican into a legal one no matter what Governor Jerry Brown would like the rest of us to think. His monacre is well deserved “Governor Moonbeam”. he can’t see the forest from the trees, like his leftist pals has no qualms about ruinining California nd running it into the ground because, after all, he is a compassionate jesuite in disguise. What happens when your tax base disappears Governor? Are you going to rely on the peso as the preferred measure of currency? If mexicans are so proud of their heritage they should turn their backs on the dollar and embrace the peso. What hypocritical wetbacks we have and moronic politicians.

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