More guns, less crime

July 23, 2012

By Katy Grimes

The mainstream news reports about the Aurora, Colorado theater shooting on Thursday night is the worst reporting and irresponsible commentary I’ve ever seen. And once again, guns are the bad guy.

As American liberals have stepped up preaching that everyone deserves high self-esteem, personal responsibility has taken a back seat, and inanimate objects are to blame for bad behavior.

“Death by Xbox.”

“Drugs kill mother of three.”

“Speeding SUV kills five!” the headlines read. “An SUV ran through a restaurant window, killing seven…” a reporter announced. “SUV kills kindergartner waiting for bus,” another headline read.

“Assault rifle opened fire, leaves seven dead, 15 wounded,” a headline stated.

There is stupid, and there is really stupid reporting.

There are people behind the wheel of the SUV’s, and holding the guns. And somewhere, there are parents of a dead kid, who allowed him to play Xbox games.

Along with the cries for gun bans, why not ban the deadly SUV’s, or dangerous Xbox games?

Why Liberals don’t like guns

Guns and people have lived together for centuries. It is liberals who don’t like guns, or gun owners. And when liberals don’t like something, they want it banned.

But pinning down anti-gun people is challenging. They never specify what it is about guns they don’t like. Because guns don’t kill people any more than SUV’s run people down, or golf balls break windows on their own.

The objection anti-gun liberals must have is that it’s the people who own guns that offend.

Media stories kill

The morning after the theater shooting, ABC News Chief Investigative Correspondent Brian Ross reported that James Holmes, the Aurora, Colorado shooter could be a Tea Party member.

“There’s a Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado, page on the Colorado Tea Party site as well, talking about him joining the Tea Party last year,” Ross said on “Good Morning America.” “Now, we don’t know if this is the same Jim Holmes. But it’s Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado.”

Ross isn’t just some pretty talking head on a local news channel — he is billed as the ABC News Chief Investigative Correspondent. But his reporting lacked any real investigating.

It took Breitbart.com to debunk ABC’s outrageous accusation:

“On Good Morning America, ABC News’ Brian Ross and George Stephanopoulos suggested that the Tea Party might be connected to the mass shootings early this morning in an Aurora, CO theater during a screening of the new Batman movie, The Dark Knight Rises. The mainstream media attempted to blame the Tea Party for the Tuscon shootings in January 2011, shortly after Republicans swept the midterm elections. Now, in the critical 2012 elections, the mainstream media seems poised to do the same–and ABC News has led the way.”

This is the exchange between Brian Ross and George Stephanolpoulos:

Stephanolpoulos: I’m going to go to Brian Ross. You’ve been investigating the background of Jim Holmes here. You found something that might be significant.

Ross: There’s a Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado, page on the Colorado Tea party site as well, talking about him joining the Tea Party last year. Now, we don’t know if this is the same Jim Holmes. But it’s Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado.

Stephanolpoulos: Okay, we’ll keep looking at that. Brian Ross, thanks very much.

The result of ABC’s irresponsible journalism made older Jim Holmes’ life a media circus.

The suspect, now in custody, is a 24-year-old man with the same name.

“What kind of idiot makes that kind of statement?” Holmes told The Daily Caller. “Really, seriously, how do we take a journalist seriously when it’s pretty clear they really haven’t done any sort of check on their facts?”

In a joint statement, Colorado Tea Party Patriots and the Tea Party Patriots denounced the report as “shameless and reprehensible.” It was not just irresponsible and shameless to report this, it was a lie that ABC was willing to extend.

Ross and Stephanolpoulos should be fired.

Gun owners and the law

The law is on the side of gun owners. In fact, gun owners have adjusted well to all of the roadblocks imposed on gun ownership, including waiting periods to take possession of a gun after purchase, some ammunition bans, and bans on certain types of guns. Gun owners follow the law.

In 2007, the United States Supreme Court upheld the Second Amendment, stating that it very clearly protects an individual’s right to keep and bear arms. Heller vs. DC deemed that a gun ban deprived legal citizens the right to keep and bear arms, which prevented them from defending hearth and home against armed criminals. And the decision stated that a gun ban went against thousands of years of the right of self defense, as well as the defense of others.

Oyez, the Supreme Court news reported, “For the first time in seventy years, the Court heard a case regarding the central meaning of the Second Amendment and its relation to gun control laws. After the District of Columbia passed legislation barring the registration of handguns, requiring licenses for all pistols, and mandating that all legal firearms must be kept unloaded and disassembled or trigger locked, a group of private gun-owners brought suit claiming the laws violated their Second Amendment right to bear arms.”

“In a 5-4 decision, the Court held that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that firearm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self- defense within the home. The Court based its holding on the text of the Second Amendment, as well as applicable language in state constitutions adopted soon after the Second Amendment.”

Guns bans don’t work

In 2003, the Washington Times reported, “the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released a study last week that states there is no evidence to prove gun-control laws are effective in preventing violence. No kidding. There always has been substance to the cliche that guns don’t kill people, people do. Correlative to that rule is that the criminals who use guns to kill usually possess their weapons illegally. These serial lawbreakers are not deterred by statutes prohibiting or regulating gun ownership. They will continue to use guns to commit violent crimes even if the rest of the population of sitting ducks are disarmed.”

The task force also concluded that “firearms-related injuries in the United States have declined since 1993” despite the fact that “approximately 4.5 million new firearms are sold each year.”

Expensive government studies to convince us that gun-control laws don’t make communities safer are a waste of taxpayer money. Taking away law-abiding citizens’ rights to defend themselves results only in making criminals more safe.

However, thugs will think twice before victimizing someone who might be packing heat.

If the Colorado movie theater had been filled with citizens who may have been carrying, chances are that the gunman would have been cut down after his first shot, if he even got that far.

Liberal Democrats Hate Gun Owners

Liberals don’t hate guns, they hate gun owners.

Gun owners tend to be more conservative, believe in personal responsibility, and are more likely to vote conservatively.

Gun owners support the military, and join the military.

Gun owners supported the cold war and America’s efforts to fight Communism. Gun owners voluntarily enlisted during the Vietnam War, the Gulf Wars and the Iraq War.

However, these traits are what liberals despise. They hate people who refuse to rely on the government for protection.

Gun Control for Political Power

People unfamiliar with guns have an understandable aversion to them, but many ignorantly support strict gun control regulations. Liberals use this issue and people who fear guns to win elections.

But Gun control is just another control issue. The best example of this is the irrational ban on assault weapons, solely based on how the guns look. Gun owners familiar with assault weapons say that bayonet lugs and flash suppressors do not make semi-automatic guns more deadly or more suitable for criminal use. However, the assault weapon ban is the ideal wedge to use in a heated political debate.

Liberals despise the Constitution

The Constitution protects the rights of individuals, and it protects individuals from the government.  Because liberals believe they know what’s best for the rest of us, they despise the Constitution.

John R. Lott published research demonstrating that an increase in gun ownership results in a reduction in crime, because guns save more lives through deterrence and self-defense than they kill. His 1999 book, “More Guns, Less Crime,” became the authority on gun issues.

“Criminals are deterred by higher penalties,” Lott said in an interview. “Just as higher arrest and conviction rates deter crime, so does the risk that someone committing a crime will confront someone able to defend him or herself. There is a strong negative relationship between the number of law-abiding citizens with permits and the crime rate—as more people obtain permits there is a greater decline in violent crime rates. For each additional year that a concealed handgun law is in effect, the murder rate declines by 3 percent, rape by 2 percent, and robberies by over 2 percent.”

Concealed handgun laws reduce violent crime for two reasons. First, they reduce the number of attempted crimes because criminals are uncertain which potential victims can defend themselves. Second, victims who have guns are in a much better position to defend themselves.”

Lott also observed how large newspapers and major media outlets consistently underreported the defensive use of guns to save lives. He found that factual accounts of the defensive use of guns would be reported in small rural newspapers but omitted from stories in larger papers, and stories that appeared days or weeks later.

Lott also debunked the oft repeated liberal notion that most murders are done by someone the victim knows.  According to Lott, the “acquaintance murder” number also includes gang members killing other gang members, drug buyers killing drug pushers, cabdrivers killed by customers they picked up for the first time, prostitutes and their clients, and so on. “Acquaintance” inaccurately covers a wide range of relationships according to Lott. But the vast majority of murders are not committed by previously law-abiding citizens. Ninety percent of adult murderers have had criminal records as adults.

Is mainstream news media the enemy?

The news media has gotten really sloppy over the years; poor grammar, unprofessional attire, stumbling over proper names, incorrect pronunciations of the names of cities, slanted reporting, and ridiculously stupid commentary on serious news stories.

But the manipulation of real news, as is the case with gun crime reporting, is just a lie. When the mainstream media lies, has it become the enemy? It certainly is no longer a mainstream media.

Facts are stubborn things.

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  1. Ted Steele, Associate Prof.
    Ted Steele, Associate Prof. 23 July, 2012, 10:08

    Once again American exceptionalism for the world to see. No country in the world has this mass murder firearms problem. Our goofy gun fetish and gross misunderstanding of our history and Constitution is appalling.

    Mass murder by gun shot wound is and has been for the last 20 years the new US norm. Get used to it, It’s not so bad. The odds of YOU being the victim are VERY remote due to our now huge population. Since it won’t happen to you, who cares? Like the fun wars we prosecute all over the world, who cares? You will never be touched by them in most cases. Party on America!

    The Ted.

    Discus now trolls !

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  2. Ted Steele, Associate Prof.
    Ted Steele, Associate Prof. 23 July, 2012, 10:17

    Katy—-

    Do you think we need to be able to purchase assault rifles? Why?

    50 Cal sniper rifles? Why?

    High cap clips? Why?

    The Ted.

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  3. Rex The Wonder Dog!
    Rex The Wonder Dog! 23 July, 2012, 10:29

    Ted, why dont you move to Japan or the UK where they dont allow guns. Thanks. The Readership 😉

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  4. anon
    anon 23 July, 2012, 10:30

    No Katy you have it wrong. Us liberals don’t like guns because guns are used for the sole purpose of killing other people, whether they are being used for self-defense or as a weapon. An SUV may take lives, but people use it for transportation, not as a killing device. We liberals don’t like guns because we see their destructive power in our neighborhoods. I personally do not believe in banning guns outright, and I think it is you that is lying. Sure bayonet lugs and flash suppressors may make not make a weapon any less lethal, but I think a drum magazine just might. And not to mention the only source you cite for your statistics is conservapedia, which i think just proves that you are the sloppy and lazy reporter who has failed to do their due diligence as a member of the press. Your opinions are not fact, as much as you would like them to be.

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  5. CalWatchdog
    CalWatchdog 23 July, 2012, 11:13

    Ted – the countries where there is real mass murder have gun control – China, Nazi Germany, for instance, and the mass murders were perpetrated by the government.

    America doesn’t have a mass murder problem.

    Anon, do you think that the Olympic shooting team uses their guns to kill people? Based on your emotional rationale, a hockey stick, a baseball bat or fencing sword could also be a killing device.

    Katy

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  6. Ted Steele, Associate Prof.
    Ted Steele, Associate Prof. 23 July, 2012, 11:29

    CAL WATCHDOG–

    WOW– let me just quote you directly– YOU said…” America doesn’t have a mass murder problem”.

    Your quote about says it all. You are pretty much ok with status q. Good for you. I think you’re right. A few dozen innocent people killed here and there, no biggie. Odds are good it will never be me, or you. It’s cool. I like the cut of your jib. Heck, besides the odd mass murders, …..53 killed a day by guns in this Country, party on! No problems man. The odds are still good that we are all good.

    At least our rights to have 50 cal sniper rifles, assault weapons and huge supplies of ammo are intact, pheeeeeeeew. Just what the founders envisioned I am certain! Because when the black helicopters of FEMA come……and come on, you know they will……we will be all set to unleash our far superior fire power on them and win big like the super heros we all are!

    I agree with you Cal Watchdog–you’re so…well…mmmmmm…..brainy. THERE IS NO MASS MURDER PROBLEM IN THE US.

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  7. Anthony
    Anthony 23 July, 2012, 11:30

    Ted, we need to be able to purchase assault rifles? Why?

    In case that I am under assault. Lets talk about the history of gun bans and related gun bans in Chicago and other major metropolises. Gun bans were used as a racist method to keep blacks or “African-Americans” from having guns. This was a means to keep to keep them in their place. Gun bans predate the establishement of the United States in the mid 18th century when the French were in control of the Louisiana Purchase. They forbade blacks and slaves from owning guns and other weapons. In 1804, the black slaves in Haitiover threw the French in their revolution. The Spanish Empire was also terrified on slave revolts in the New Spain Territories, so they banned slaves from owning weapons as well.

    During period of slavery in the United States, one major event was the Nat Turner Rebellion, which slaves rebelled killing 60 white people. This led to fear across the south where there could be more incidents. The rebellion caused much retribution that the State of Virginia passed laws that forbade all blacks to read, write, to assemble without the presence of a white pastor in churches, and possessing weapons.

    In addition, the Dred Scott case was very important as well to guns and gun control because if African Americans were deemed free people, then they would have all the constitutional protections that whites had – including the 2nd Amendment. During the Civil War, blacks obtained guns for the very first time and after the war they would take the guns home as payment for their service for fighting in the Union Army.

    AFter the Civil War, southern states began to enact black codes aka Jim Crow laws, which again forbade newly freed blacks from possessing guns. Racist white possees would go around to terrorise blacks. One of the most notiable terror possee was the Knights of the KKK (the terrorist arm of the Democrat Party). They used these laws to establish white supremacy and to prevent blacks from fighting back.

    In addition the that, modern day gun bans in major metropolitan areas occured in the turn of the 20th century. The NRA, yes that NRA, was in favor of passing gun bans in fear of migration of new immigrants to this country- Polish, Italians, Albanians, Jews, and other Eastern Europeans from possessing guns. This was called the Uniform Firearms Act, which is in place today requiring people to get a permit for a weapon. That same act prevented MLK from owning a handgun in eventhough his own home was firebombed, and being on the reciving end of daily death threats. The Alabama State Police used that act to prevent him from having a gun for his own safety.

    In California, conservatives such as Governor Ronald Reagan in the 1960’s passed gun control measures – The Mulford Act – under fear of the Black Panthers branishing rifles in public. The most notable event was when they stood upon the Alameda County Courthouse holding weapons and conducting armed patrols. This was seen as a measure to undermine the order of the day. This was the impetus for the contemporary gun control movement.

    Race riots happened during 1967-1968 all across America. Congress passed the Federal Gun Control Act of 1968. The fear of the race riots were used as a mechanism for gun control. The NRA was in support of that as well but in the 1970’s there was a fundamental shift in the NRA where whites believed that the government was after their guns next. Obama has been called the biggest arms seller because his election led to the biggest increase of gun sales in recent history in fears that he would take away the guns, black on white race violence, or an economic collapse.

    Gun bans are not working in various cities such as Chicago, Obama’s hometown, where in less than 7 months had over 300 murders. Many of these deaths are black and latino. People are living in fear due to the criminals who prey upon the helpless and weak. Last week there was an incident where two armed thugs that attempted to rob an internet cafe in the Orlando, Florida area. An elderly man who was in his 70’s shot at the two would be robbers. One of the robbers were hit. The elderly man had a concealed carry permit. Oakland has 67+ murders already this year. Baltimore, Maryland has over 106 murders already (up to June 30th).

    Gun Control has been used as a means of people and social control and we should be reminded about the racist roots of this issue. We do need better gun safety laws. However gun control advocates who say that there is a need for more is very conceited.

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  8. Rex The Wonder Dog!
    Rex The Wonder Dog! 23 July, 2012, 11:44

    Katy-please don’t feed the troll, it only encourages him and it is already proving impossible to stop Teddy from posting under his mutliple gimmick accounts 😉

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  9. anon
    anon 23 July, 2012, 12:13

    Calwatchdog- And that’s the point, the olympic team uses their guns for sport just like a hockey stick and a baseball bat are used for sport more often than for violent purposes. They are not created to kill. Guns are created to kill. Imagine someone walking into a movie theater with a hockey stick or a baseball bat intending to kill people, they would not likely succeed. I understand that some guns are manufactured for sport (hunting, target shooting, ect.) but they are not made with the same purpose that an assault rifle is.

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  10. CalWatchdog
    CalWatchdog 23 July, 2012, 12:14

    Ted – if you want to quote me directly, why don’t you acknowledge my quote about the governments and countries which have exterminated their own people. That is mass murder, and was done after gun control mandates were in place. China, Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, North Korea, Rwanda… The highest death tolls documented in communist states occurred in the People’s Republic of China under Mao Zedong, the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin, and in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge.

    Pay attention Ted. There will always be crazy people who kill, regardless of government bans on weapons. No one can prevent these unrelated incidents, and banning weapons will do nothing to stop a nut case, but will stop good, responsible people from being able to protect themselves.

    But governments that kill their own people — that’s mass murder and genocide.

    You said, “53 people killed every day in this country,” but not by guns Ted, by people.

    Ten years ago the Institute of Medicine declared that as many as 98,000 people die each year needlessly because of preventable medical harm, including health care-acquired infections and track patient safety improvements. Ten years later, medical industry watchdogs report they don’t know if we’ve made any real progress, and efforts to reduce the harm caused by our medical care system are few and fragmented.

    I’ll take my chances with a neighbor who owns a gun.

    Cherry picking your information is so pedestrian.

    Katy

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  11. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 23 July, 2012, 13:55

    Teddy…..what does pedestrian mean?

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  12. BobA in San Diego
    BobA in San Diego 23 July, 2012, 14:36

    Anthony:

    You’re absolutely right!! What the gun control advocate never seem to address is the fact that what we need is more criminal control and not gun control. Our justice system has become so lenient that nowadays, crime pays and getting caught and going to prison is just the cost of doing business.

    I know because I have a relative, whom I haven’t seen in years and don’t want to see, who has been convicted once for murder and twice for armed robbery and has spent a grand total of 17 years in prison for all three crimes.

    Perhaps if his first victim had a gun and shot him instead, the next two victims would have been spared and society would have been spared the cost of keeping that miscreant locked up. We put down vicious animals for the safety of everyone else. Why should it be any different for vicious two-legged animals?

    Implementing stricter gun control laws is no deterrent to criminals and in fact would only make their criminal endeavors that much easier knowingly reassured that their victims will not be able to defend themselves with lethal force.

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  13. Rex The Wonder Dog!
    Rex The Wonder Dog! 23 July, 2012, 14:37

    Pay attention Ted. There
    LOL……………..that’ll never happen 🙂

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  14. CalWatchdog
    CalWatchdog 23 July, 2012, 14:51

    Ted Steele wrote: “No country in the world has this mass murder firearms problem.”

    Actually, last year in Norway, which has strict gone control, Anders Brevik murdered 69 people.

    Germany also has strict gun control. Yet it has suffered several school shooting incidents. At Winnenden school, 16 people were murdered: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnenden_school_shooting

    In America, we can’t even keep drugs and immigrants from flooding over our borders. If “assault weapons” — which is a hazy definition by itself — ever were banned, they just would be more readily available on the black market.

    Not to mention that President Obama’s Operation Fast and Furious dumped hundreds of weapons on the black market, leading to hundreds of deaths:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Fast_and_Furious

    — John Seiler

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  15. Rex The Wonder Dog!
    Rex The Wonder Dog! 23 July, 2012, 15:19

    John, that is it-Teddy is out for the 10 count. Dont expect him to refute your points, he will just make more generic comments lke “Our goofy gun fetish and gross misunderstanding of our history and Constitution is appalling.”…………..yes, the pesky Constitution, so damn “Goofy” 🙂

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  16. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 23 July, 2012, 16:01

    Teddy.

    They are all over you like a bad spaghetti meat sauce from the Adelanto Tremor Cafe!

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  17. Ted Steele, Associate Prof.
    Ted Steele, Associate Prof. 23 July, 2012, 17:05

    Katy and John—

    LOL you are both like the chamber of Commerce/NRA flacks…….kind of predictable. Pol Pot and Hitler were mass murderers. I guess that’s your threshold? I guess you need bigger murder numbers? In the US we consider killers who slay far less than these despots “mass murderers”. I guess you are advocatng for the killers now? Perhaps we should not call someone a mass murderer until they’ve taken, how many lives?

    Listen to your argument: Hitler used a gas to kill people, Hitler was a person, the gas is not lawful to have in the US. But Hitler gassed the people— not the gas ? Just like many other agents and types of weapons. Why can’t I own a bazooka? But I can buy (without a background check ) a 50 cal sniper long gun? Why?

    Look— we are NEVER going to have any serious gun control in the US. End of story. We can all agree on that. So why argue about it?

    Like I said…it’s cool. I, like you, am fine with 50 here dead, 30 here dead. What’s way more important is our American exceptionalism and our right to party. This is clearly what the founders wanted.

    The Ted System

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  18. Ted Steele, Associate Prof.
    Ted Steele, Associate Prof. 23 July, 2012, 17:07

    Again — quoting the Cal Watchdog—“…We don’t have a mass murder problem in the US…”

    I bet there’s a few surviving relatives in Aurora and 7 other US cities I remember that disagree with you.

    But, heck, there just victims, what do they know? We’re Constitutional scholars, right?

    Yours,
    Ted

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  19. Ted Steele, Associate Prof.
    Ted Steele, Associate Prof. 23 July, 2012, 17:08

    Hey U Haul—–You finish off my light work, ok?

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  20. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 23 July, 2012, 17:26

    This subject above my pay grade…my time in military…. my thoughts, experiences….make me defer to no comment in respect for any and all who suffered from war and domestic violence.

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  21. Hondo
    Hondo 23 July, 2012, 18:04

    The alleged assault weapon JAMMED and killed very few. What was left was his shotgun which caused many minor injuries from stray buckshot and some fatalities. And his Glock 40 which killed few and wounded many.
    Within 5 blocks of my house there have been around 15 armed robberies in the last 15 months with almost no arrests. Several have been hate crimes where the gang members made racial slurs as a motive of their assault. The DA refuses to press charges for hate crimes.
    Until those raciest gang members are arrested I’ll keep my guns.
    If you want them, come get them.
    Hondo…..

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  22. Ted Steele, Associate Prof.
    Ted Steele, Associate Prof. 23 July, 2012, 18:11

    Hondo— I have a gun too. No issue with that at all.

    Just the lack of reasonable gun control in this country.
    No background checks re web and show purchases, huge mags, assault rifles, sniper weapons etc etc etc.

    And the 211 PC rate near your house– bummer dude. That’s an “overdetermined” problem. Lot’s of causes. Foe sure though privatizing the cops, hiring less qualified police won’t help much.

    Ted

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  23. Rex The Wonder Dog!
    Rex The Wonder Dog! 23 July, 2012, 18:39

    OMG did you spin that top, troll teddy and his sock puppets……LOL….Tessy melting down…. I love it 😉

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  24. Rex The Wonder Dog!
    Rex The Wonder Dog! 23 July, 2012, 18:40

    Hey Teddy what does PC 211 stand for???

    Teddy, since cop is a GED job how on earth could we possibly hire LESS qualified employees?? Me thinks even your nepotism hire would be shut down if that happened 🙂

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  25. Donkey
    Donkey 23 July, 2012, 19:18

    Ted asks why, read the second amendment and explain …..”the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed” Ted!

    How many Americans at home have been killed with a .50 sniper rifle Ted?

    Sure, a few kooks have used weapons to murder unarmed citizens, and cops kill unarmed citizens everyday, but cars and trucks, swords and knives have also been used to kill in higher capacities.

    The Jihad shooter in the SLC Mall shooting was killed by a off duty armed cops before he could use all his ammo, every citizen is gauranteed the same right by our Constitution. 🙂

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  26. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 23 July, 2012, 20:22

    Rex could you for once act responsibly.

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  27. Ted Steele, Associate Prof.
    Ted Steele, Associate Prof. 23 July, 2012, 20:35

    Duncey—- If the second A. allows for NO infringement on that right, then why has the Supreme Court upheld any many restrictions on firearms over the years in multiple cases?

    Is it a slippery slop?

    Are there 2 views on this?

    Hmmmmmmmm

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  28. Ted Steele, Associate Prof.
    Ted Steele, Associate Prof. 23 July, 2012, 20:36

    The Poodle thinks I’m a cop !

    …and a sock pppet!

    I live in his head I guess……lol……poor troll.

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  29. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 23 July, 2012, 21:21

    How many Americans at home have been killed with a .50 sniper rifle Ted?

    LOL…come on Donk, Teddy won’t enage in a war of wits, he is “unarmed”…hahahhahahahahah….if brains were guns Donk you would be the .50 Cal and Teddy woud be the BB gun 🙂

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  30. Donkey
    Donkey 23 July, 2012, 21:30

    Ted Wrote:”….then why has the Supreme Court upheld any many restrictions on firearms over the years in multiple cases?”

    The same reason they revoked gun bans in Chicago and D.C., because they can Ted. It doesn’t mean they are correct in allowing the RAGWUS to control citizens rights to have weapons, the Constitution is clear on the issue, as was Madison, who wrote the Second Amendment. 🙂

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  31. Donkey
    Donkey 23 July, 2012, 21:30

    Thanks Rex!!
    🙂

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  32. Ted Steele, Associate Prof.
    Ted Steele, Associate Prof. 23 July, 2012, 22:58

    Poodle and Duncey——lol—— no need to reply !

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  33. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 23 July, 2012, 23:25

    Adelanto Boys time to rest.

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  34. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 24 July, 2012, 02:10

    Teddy= BB gun!

    Uhaul, aka Teddy Sock Puppet= Water gun !!

    🙂

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  35. Rex The Wonder Dog!
    Rex The Wonder Dog! 24 July, 2012, 03:32

    Rex= Bazooka~!

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  36. EastBayLarry
    EastBayLarry 24 July, 2012, 06:56

    “…why not ban the deadly SUV’s, or dangerous Xbox games?”
    Careful with that. You just KNOW the libs have both these on their radar of ‘things which must be banned’.

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  37. Ted Steele, Associate Prof.
    Ted Steele, Associate Prof. 24 July, 2012, 09:12

    My god it was easy to toss the trolls on this one!

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  38. SkippingDog
    SkippingDog 24 July, 2012, 11:02

    Nicely done, Ted.

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  39. Ted Steele, Associate Prof.
    Ted Steele, Associate Prof. 24 July, 2012, 16:14

    de nada.

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  40. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 24 July, 2012, 16:42

    They repeat repeat repeat the same drivel daily….no originality….no scholarship….no compassion….

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  41. Rex The Wonder Dog!
    Rex The Wonder Dog! 24 July, 2012, 16:58

    1%%%%%%%%%BABY!’

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  42. Ted Steele, Associate Prof.
    Ted Steele, Associate Prof. 24 July, 2012, 19:13

    It’s true Your Pack n Ship Highness— they have no soul as far as I can tell………… The lone and level sands stretch far and wide………

    zzzzzzzzz=poodle

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  43. Ted Steele, Associate Prof.
    Ted Steele, Associate Prof. 24 July, 2012, 20:23

    Duncey, Poodle, et al—- Don’t you think we should give this blog back to the nice people and teabaggers who run it?

    You know, the normal people?

    Ted

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  44. Donkey
    Donkey 24 July, 2012, 20:58

    What’s a “teabagger-Ted,” is that some sort of alcoholic drink? 🙂

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  45. Donkey
    Donkey 24 July, 2012, 21:00

    Ted Steal wrote: “No country in the world has this mass murder firearms problem.”

    Read about Mexico lately wiz-bang!! 😉

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  46. Ted Steele, Associate Prof.
    Ted Steele, Associate Prof. 24 July, 2012, 22:19

    Tea baggers are folks who enjoy tea in bag form. It’s good like that.

    Good point re Mexico. They have an issue too.

    As per Cal Watchdog there is no mass murder issue in the US. I stand corrected.

    What was I thinking?

    It’s the new norm.

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  47. Ted Steele, Associate Prof.
    Ted Steele, Associate Prof. 24 July, 2012, 22:34

    Seems like alot of killings since Columbine though, don’t it?

    I mean, I’m ok with it but it seems like alot.

    Probably don’t need any gun control.

    We should probably just ignore the issue.

    There is NO mass murder problem in the US.

    USA USA USA USA USA

    April 1999 – two teenage schoolboys shot and killed 12 schoolmates and a teacher at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado, before killing themselves.

    July 1999 – a stock exchange trader in Atlanta, Georgia, killed 12 people including his wife and two children before taking his own life.

    September 1999 – a gunman opened fire at a prayer service in Fort Worth, Texas, killing six people before committing suicide.

    October 2002 – a series of sniper-style shootings occurred in Washington DC, leaving 10 dead.

    August 2003 – in Chicago, a laid-off worker shot and killed six of his former workmates.

    November 2004 – in Birchwood, Wisconsin, a hunter killed six other hunters and wounded two others after an argument with them.

    March 2005 – a man opened fire at a church service in Brookfield, Wisconsin, killing seven people.

    October 2006 – a truck driver killed five schoolgirls and seriously wounded six others in a school in Nickel Mines, Pennsylvania before taking his own life.

    April 2007 – student Seung-Hui Cho shot and killed 32 people and wounded 15 others at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, Virginia, before shooting himself, making it the deadliest mass shooting in the United States after 2000.

    August 2007 – Three Delaware State University students were shot and killed in “execution style” by a 28-year-old and two 15-year-old boys. A fourth student was shot and stabbed.

    December 2007 – a 20-year-old man killed nine people and injured five others in a shopping center in Omaha, Nebraska.

    December 2007 – a woman and her boyfriend shot dead six members of her family on Christmas Eve in Carnation, Washington.

    February 2008 – a shooter who is still at large tied up and shot six women at a suburban clothing store in Chicago, leaving five of them dead and the remaining one injured.

    February 2008 – a man opened fire in a lecture hall at Northern Illinois University in DeKalb, Illinois, killing five students and wounding 16 others before laying down his weapon and surrendering.

    September 2008 – a mentally ill man who was released from jail one month earlier shot eight people in Alger, Washington, leaving six of them dead and the rest two wounded.

    December 2008 – a man dressed in a Santa Claus suit opened fire at a family Christmas party in Covina, California, then set fire on the house and killed himself. Police later found nine people dead in the debris of the house.

    March 2009 – a 28-year-old laid-off worker opened fire while driving a car through several towns in Alabama, killing 10 people.

    March 2009 – a heavily armed gunman shot dead eight people, many of them elderly and sick people, in a private-owned nursing home in North Carolina.

    March 2009 – six people were shot dead in a high-grade apartment building in Santa Clara, California.

    April 2009 – a man shot dead 13 people at a civic center in Binghamton, New York.

    July 2009 – Six people, including one student, were shot in a drive-by shooting at a community rally on the campus of Texas Southern University, Houston.

    November 2009 – U.S. army psychologist Major Nidal Hasan opened fire at a military base in Fort Hood, Texas, leaving 13 dead and 42 others wounded.

    February 2010 – A professor opened fire 50 minutes into at a Biological Sciences Department faculty meeting at the University of Alabama, killing three colleagues and wounding three others.

    January 2011 – a gunman opened fire at a public gathering outside a grocery in Tucson, Arizona, killing six people including a 9-year-old girl and wounding at least 12 others. Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was severely injured with a gunshot to the head.

    Teddy

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  48. CalWatchdog
    CalWatchdog 24 July, 2012, 23:30

    Ted: Actually, for a country of 320 million people, it’s probably not a lot. Bad things happen. But the murder rate is at its lowest rate in 50 years. Your chances of getting murdererd in America are low. Especially if you pack your own heat in a free state that allows it, like Arizona.

    — John Seiler

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  49. Rex The Wonder Dog!
    Rex The Wonder Dog! 25 July, 2012, 01:47

    Teddy= Cut past…..cut paste…..cut past….dude can you post anything that is your own??? Original???

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  50. Donkey
    Donkey 25 July, 2012, 07:48

    You can see Teabagger-Ted that none of shootings you pasted happened at a NRA gathering , a police station, or any place else that armed citizens were meeting. The incident at Fort Hood was in a medical center and perpetrated by a Jihadist. Many of the other shootings were at colleges, for some reason our left wing institutions seem to harbor the most violent people in the nation.

    It turns out that the “Batman” shooter happens to not only be a lifetime college student, but also a registered Demonrat, do tell. 🙂

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  51. BobA in San Diego
    BobA in San Diego 25 July, 2012, 09:00

    It seems to me that the safest city, town, etc., you could live in is one where everyone openly carries a holstered gun. What’s the chance of some psychopath shooting up a bunch of people if everyone around is armed?

    I say bring back the wild west days and let everyone openly carry guns. That would solve two problems at once. It would reduce the murder rate and also “discourage” a lot of petty criminals who use guns in the commission of a crime. Petty criminals only commit crimes when they know the odds of them getting shot is small. It’s time those odds were skewed in the other direction.

    BTW: If gang members and common criminals want to kill each other, I have no problem with that. It’s cheaper to bury them than to keep them warehoused in prisons.

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  52. Ted Steele, Associate Prof.
    Ted Steele, Associate Prof. 25 July, 2012, 09:17

    John— Good point! Can’t you see that I agree with you? The mass murders by GSW in the US are NOT that big of a deal. I agree with Cal Watchdog! Since the overall murder rate is low (sort of)…this is just the new norm. American exceptionalism ! USA USA USA

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  53. NTHEOC
    NTHEOC 25 July, 2012, 13:00

    BobA in San Diego says:
    July 25, 2012 at 9:00 am
    It seems to me that the safest city, town, etc., you could live in is one where everyone openly carries a holstered gun.
    =====
    You can openly carry a gun in colorado!! Well bob,how is that working out for them?

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  54. NTHEOC
    NTHEOC 25 July, 2012, 13:06

    My grandmother gets questioned and denied online refills for prescribed health meds after 1 or 2,Yet people can get thousands of rounds of ammo and stock up on assualt weapons with no background checks!! Hmmmm?? So katy, I would like to see you sit bedside of the paralyzed mother whos 6 year old daughter was killed in that colorado theater and explain to her your support for guns and ammo!! Well hey, it’s just the norm these days right??

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  55. That Woman
    That Woman 25 July, 2012, 15:39

    @ NTHEOC: If the folks in that theater had guns, they would have taken down the lunatic and the paralyzed mother’s 6-year-old would be alive. We have the right to defend ourselves. Gun controllers have no right to take that away.

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  56. NTHEOC
    NTHEOC 25 July, 2012, 16:15

    That Woman,
    I have no problem with home protection or self protection, but the fact is you gun lunatics have no problem with people arming themselves like rambo!!Do you really need a fricken assualt weapon and thousands of rounds of ammo? Do you really need these things!! Again,It is legal in Aurora colorado to openly carry a firearm,yet tell me how great that worked for the mass shootings they have had? And no, they would have not had any chance at taking out your boy who legally had on full body armor and an arsenal of weapons that you support having!!!!!!!!!!

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  57. Ted Steele, Associate Prof.
    Ted Steele, Associate Prof. 25 July, 2012, 19:22

    Well said NTHEOC

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  58. Gerbil
    Gerbil 25 July, 2012, 20:10

    First off,

    I am so sorry for the victims and their families of the shooting.

    NTHEOC,

    Just because someone owns an “Assault weapon” does not mean they are a lunatic. Are you going to protect my house in an emergency?

    If the light switch to our supply chain for all goods in the US is turned off (for whatever reasons) what are you going to do to protect your home?

    Have you ever thought of what it would be like if the supply chain stopped? No gas for any vehicles, no food shipments to your local grocery store/walmart/ etc? No water being “pumped” to your house?

    If the electricity is off for a long period of time? Walmart & every store will be empty in days. We are no different than hamsters in a cage and when the food, water (being brought to us)is stopped (supply chain) to the cage the hamsters are left to fend for themselves.

    I will laugh if you have $250,000 in your bank account and the ATM’s & banks are not open? How great is your savings treating you then? You can wipe your a$$ with your dollars because it is only “paper” and worth nothing if no stores are open.

    When 30 gang bangers with guns come knocking down your door after the stores are all dried up (your home is now the walmart) ,looking for food water and maybe a little fun if they want.

    You will wish you had traded your Mercedes SUV for one assault weapon and rounds of ammo to protect your family.

    I don’t give a rate a$$ about “open carry” I only have one concern protecting my home. The 30 gang bangers will know most homes are under-armed and will love the fact you do not have 1000’s of rounds of ammunition.

    I am confident I can manage many, many gangs of fools but I am not a lunatic.
    I am a normal hard working american proud of my 2nd amendment and I understand our food and water and fuel is brought to us like gerbils in a cage and can be turned off at any time. But I will not let anyone come in my house and take my food, water, wife and kids for fun etc.

    “My home is protected by the good lord and a gun, you come over unwelcomed you might meet them both son”.

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  59. Ted Steele, Associate Prof.
    Ted Steele, Associate Prof. 26 July, 2012, 08:47

    Gerbil— No one wants to stop you from guns for home protection—- but there is a ton of gun conrtrol that could be had to eliminate mass murder aids like assault rifles, extended clips and background checks…..

    Ted

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  60. NTHEOC
    NTHEOC 26 July, 2012, 10:40

    Gerbil,
    WOW, you really seem like a militia man!!! Listen rambo,The Second Amendment does not establish a right to bear assault weapons. States are not banned from imposing gun control restrictions. This has been the law throughout American history.If the states wanted to say no citizen has the legal right to possess an assault weapon, or say that possession of an assault weapon by a civilian is a serious felony, it would be completely within their power to do so, as a legitimate government interest. As long as they did not ban all firearms.When is ENOUGH going to be ENOUGH with you gun fanatics?Columbine. Virginia Tech. Gabby Giffords.Seal beach, And now Aurora (among many others). It is time to wake up. We have a culture of gun violence that is unlike any other in the world. It results in almost double the amount of deaths that occurred in Aurora each and every day.Assault weapons like the AR-15 have one purpose. It is to efficiently kill human beings. They have a legitimate function in the hands of the military and in law enforcement (in certain circumstances). But the state has an obligation to protect the health, safety, and general welfare, and a ban on these types of weapons is not only constitutional – it is essential!!!!!!!!!!

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  61. Tax Target
    Tax Target 28 July, 2012, 06:41

    @Steele….

    Duh, we already have background checks!! What in heaven’s name did that do to stop this idiot from shooting in Colorado?

    Assault weapons – wow what a word. Let me see if we changed the appearance to a hunting rifle which operates in the same fashion, does that make you feel better? People who are criminals will use what is available… a .22 rifle can kill…

    Your ideas throw the constitution out the window. Let’s see SCOTUS determines the interpretation of the 2nd amendment – you say assault weapons bans should be constitutional… is that anything like Obamacare is supported by SCOTUS yet I think its unconstitutional.

    What really is insulting is no one focusing on the underlying issue which is the mental health of the shooter. Mental health care in this country is an appalling mess. Why isn’t that focused on rather than the method of the shooter?

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  62. Spurwing Plover
    Spurwing Plover 20 October, 2015, 15:28

    George Stupidnopolous a example of what certian things do to the human brain like cuasing it to shrink to pea size

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