Fleischman sketches campaign against Brown tax increase
July 31, 2012
By John Seiler
Over at Flashreport, Jon Fleischman summarized the arguments the anti-Proposition 30 campaign will be using:
* If there is money to waste on high speed rail — why raise taxes?
* If there is money to drop on giving raises to legislative staffers – why raise taxes?
* If you can’t even keep track of over $50 million that you already have – why raise taxes?
* If there is enough money to publicly subsidize sporting arenas – why raise taxes?
All these stories have been copiously reported. And you can imagine the visuals. How about a taxpayer in a business suit being tackled by a 350-lb. linebacker, the taxpayer’s bones audibly broken and his face covered with dirt and blood? The number on the linebacker’s jersey? “Prop. 30.”
California’s government is so dysfunctional, beginning at the top with Gov. Moonbeam, that it can’t stay on the message that the state supposedly is broke and needs increases in “revenue,” as Brown’s first tax-increase video put it. Even they’re afraid of the T-word: “taxes.”
It’s going to be a fun campaign and the state economy will benefit both from defeating Prop. 30 and the tens of millions of dollars the government-worker unions will blow trying to pass it.
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If there is money to give to illegal aliens for college tuition why raise taxes?
If there is money to give to illegals for ANY reason, why raise taxes?
Prop 30 is DOA, by a 60%-40% landslide……
You poor delusional handicappers. Do you really believe Jerry Brown is a dumb boob….
It is simple….scare the millions of needy….bam….#30 wins. No one wants wheel chairs off cliffs or criminals climbing in your bedroom window or kids selling apples on street corners during school hours or fires raging through dense urban areas!!!!
The Hoper and Changer will take California by 15 points…..Prop #30 by five…
It is what it is….
So Upull, what about Molly Mongrell’s tax increase? How much will that win by?
Brownie a dumb boob? More like an arrogant and delusional old koot.
Prop 30, doa, could eb 65%-35%, since the Bullet Stain was passed.
Neber go against my predictions Teddy, I am 10-0 and I am always right.
You get what you pay for!!
We get what we pay for??? No we do not. We are paying doctor wages and benefits and getting GED cops and firewhiners and you say we get what we pay for…hahahahaahah…….. come on NTHEOC, don’t try those whoppers here we can shoot them down all day long!
ntheoc, I have $100 says Prop 30 loses, you want to back up your propaganda with $$$$$$ 🙂
John, I like your idea for the anti-Prop. 30 commercial. It’s very visceral and attention grabbing. I especially like the bone breaking audio overdub idea (what can I say, I’m an MMA fan). Maybe you should go into that line of work, it probably pays better than this shoestring operation.
Uhaul, you are wrong about Prop. 30 but correct about President Hopey- Changey. He will win this state in a landslide but thats no great accomplishment. The Demogoguecrats could run a yellow dog for Pres. and take this state. Kali. voters are stone cold suckers for vapid, hypocritical collectivist blather. They don’t pay attention enough to have figured out that Mr. Hopey-Changey is too busy assassinating 16 year olds with drone strikes to solve their problems.
Too complex an argument. Voters can’t think their way out of a lunch bag. Besides, these are snarky questions that only screech at the choir and won’t reach the broader voting public you need to defeat prop 30.
Think simple. Appeal to insecurity…wa la…Prop #30 wins going away.
If you bash #30 you’ll be painted like those fanatics who dreamed up Prop #187…..and you know it is coming…..
Appeal to insecurity…wa la…Prop #30 wins going away.
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Teddy, ,my $100 wager apllliesto you too lil buddy….
Too complex an argument. Voters can’t think their way out of a lunch bag.
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Not this time, the cat is out of th ebag on these pension scams
There is money for everything but the taxpayer. And the message is, “pay us higher taxes or we’ll screw your kids over even worse in the public schools you already pay for.”
AB 32 and cap and trade, high speed rail, tunnels under the Delta for So Cal water, slush funds in at least 13 agencies, raises for legislative staff, luxury pensions… Democrats think that we can’t add. (fortunately I wasn’t taught new math in my public school)
Voters can add, and do understand that they are getting screwed, even if they don’t know all the details. What they do know is that any governor who would push to raise taxes in a failing economy surely must be corrupt.
Katy
Living in machine politics Pennsylvania for years gives one forecasting ability……
California is full of needy people. Needy people do not own property, pay no income taxes and tend to favor union appeals. They doggedly pull the Democrat straight ballot…..the party of filling needs.
It is naive to believe budgets mean anything to these people.
Pennsylvania has been losing population for years, the roads are poor, taxes continue to rise and professional needy dig in and stay.
Union bosses are diety!
It has never ever ever changed.
The tax increase may likely pass because most Kalifornia voters don’t pay taxes, they consume them via welfare.
The reason this tax hike won’t work is shown by Lebron James. One of the main reasons Lebron James chose Miami was taxes. The Lakers had a better team and lots of money and he could have had a few more rings in LA than in Miami. But Ohio, NY, LA are high tax states. King James got a ring and kept his money too.
The people who this tax increase is aimed at will, and can, do what King James has done. Take their money and their ball game elsewhere.
Hondo…….
And you end upwith a poor future with high taxes….the needy will tax down to the last producer and each and every fat short pants tourist.
Your in la la land. Who cares about basketball players…..you will pay and pay till you leave.
When every penny is accounted for the we can look at spending more. Why is it that agencies like the parks dept are threatened to be closed and yet are sitting on millions upon millions in cash. Isn’t it interesting that six major unions are have spent 6.3 million in support of this tax increase for the hippie governor. He is just like his tax and spend leader the supreme taxer himself, Obama. Let’s tax back the money and keep it where it does the most good. Keep the money out of the legislatures greedy hands and keep it in our pockets. We earn it we should spend it. And the more we spend the more the state and it’s municipalities benefit.
Hondo-get serious, the pension tax has NO CHANCE of passing, stop trying t jinx us.