Gun controllers hold up Communist China as a model

MaoDec. 20, 2012

By John Seiler

The horrible killings in Newtown have brought to the fore the hidden totalitarian beliefs of many gun controllers. They’ve been saying that America should adopt the Maoist gun-control policies of Communist China. In the Financial Times, here’s Jacob Weisberg, chairman and editor-in-chief of the influential Slate Group, which is owned by the Washington Post, which basically is a propaganda organ for the U.S. Government. This is what America’s Establishment is reading, and thinking:

“Last Friday 20 children and six adults were shot dead at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut. The same day a group of schoolchildren was attacked in China’s Henan province. There, the assailant wielded a knife and the result was injuries to 23 children and an adult but no deaths. This follows an established pattern. Like the US, China has experienced a spate of attacks on schoolchildren. But without easy access to guns, Chinese attackers seldom succeed in killing.”

Nowhere in the article does our esteemed and influential liberal writer point out that China still is run by the Chinese Communist Party. The Party has eased up on the socialism, generating great wealth. But it’s still the only party that’s allowed. And if you run afoul of their edicts, they send you to the Laogai concentration camps. According to one report, in the last 50 years, more than 50 million people have been sentenced to these camps.

Think that would happen if, as in America, there were as many privately held guns as there are people — which in China’s case would be 1.2 billion guns? Of course not. People would defend themselves.


The ChiCom gun-control meme was continued in the Washington Post itself by Fareed Zakaria, the influential CNN host; former managing editor of Foreign Affairs, the Establishment’s top magazine; and plagiarist:

“A few hours before the Newtown murders last week, a man entered a school in China’s Henan province. Obviously mentally disturbed, he tried to kill children. But the only weapon he was able to get was a knife. Although 23 children were injured, not one child died.

“The problems that produced the Newtown massacre are not complex, nor are the solutions. We do not lack for answers.

“What we lack in America today is courage.”

He means the “courage” of the U.S. government to shred the Second Amendment “right to keep and bear arms” and to send Maoist Red Guards knocking down doors and scouring homes for contraband guns.

Zakaria also doesn’t mention that China remains a communist tyranny. So let’s remind him, and Weisberg, about what really has gone on in China.

China still imposes a draconian “one-child policy.” If a woman becomes pregnant with a second child, the government forces her to abort her baby.

The only way they can do that is because the Chinese people are disarmed. In America, the women I know never would let that happen because they’re armed — and so are their husbands.

Under the Chinese Communist government, which remains in power and never has been punished, an incredible 76 million people have been slaughtered by the government (not counting the forced abortions), according to R.J. Rummel, who keeps the tally. That occurred because the Chinese people were unarmed and couldn’t resist.

How can Zakaria and Weisberg — or anyone — believe China is a model for social policy for us to adopt?

But they have placed the choice before us: A free, well-armed society that has occasional horrific violence. Or a totalitarian society in which the government suppresses all rights and routinely slaughters millions.




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  1. StevefromSacto
    StevefromSacto 20 December, 2012, 11:35

    OK, John, don’t take it from me. Like anyone else to the left of Rush Limbaugh, I know you consider me a far-out liberal.

    But I urge you and all Lapdog fans to read this op-ed column by Federal district judge Larry Burns, who makes a conservative argument for an assault weapons ban. Check out his credentials, please.,0,6774314.story

    It says in part:

    “Bring back the assault weapons ban, and bring it back with some teeth this time. Ban the manufacture, importation, sale, transfer and possession of both assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. Don’t let people who already have them keep them. Don’t let ones that have already been manufactured stay on the market. I don’t care whether it’s called gun control or a gun ban. I’m for it.

    “I say all of this as a gun owner. I say it as a conservative who was appointed to the federal bench by a Republican president. I say it as someone who prefers Fox News to MSNBC, and National Review Online to the Daily Kos. I say it as someone who thinks the Supreme Court got it right in District of Columbia vs. Heller, when it held that the 2nd Amendment gives us the right to possess guns for self-defense. (That’s why I have mine.) I say it as someone who, generally speaking, is not a big fan of the regulatory state.

    “I even say it as someone whose feelings about the NRA mirror the left’s feelings about Planned Parenthood: It has a useful advocacy function in our deliberative democracy, and much of what it does should not be controversial at all….

    “But if we can’t find a way to draw sensible lines with guns that balance individual rights and the public interest, we may as well call the American experiment in democracy a failure.

    “There is just no reason civilians need to own assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. Gun enthusiasts can still have their venison chili, shoot for sport and competition, and make a home invader flee for his life without pretending they are a part of the SEAL team that took out Osama bin Laden.”


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  2. jimmydeeoc
    jimmydeeoc 20 December, 2012, 11:47

    Word-mincing is over.

    Zakaria is on TeeVee because he’s the only middle-aged Muslim they could find who looked good in a suit and didn’t have a bomb strapped to his chest. lol

    As to Weisberg…..I’m going all-in. Of the most vociferous proponents of gun control I’ve seen on talking-head TV in the past week, seemingly half have been Jews. I find this ironic, if not fully insane. The majority of present-day, first-world Jews seem to always argue in favor of solutions representing greater state power and authority. Yet for…ohhh, I dunno……two to three thousand years at least (when was The Exodus?)…..the greatest enemy of Jews has been……the state.

    I am mightily confused.

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  3. Dyspeptic
    Dyspeptic 20 December, 2012, 15:01

    I guess we are supposed to be impressed with Judge Burns “credentials” as a self described “conservative”. Sure. There have always been authoritarian right wing gun grabbers in this country like George Bush for example, who campaigned for re-election in 2004 promising to sign another semi-auto ban. It’s not at all surprising to liberty lovers that Conservatives are often authoritarian sell outs just like their “Liberal” opponents.

    I wonder if the judge even knows what an “assault weapon” is? I wonder if SteveO even knows. I doubt it. THERE ARE TENS OF MILLIONS OF SEMI-AUTO RIFLES IN THE HANDS OF LAW ABIDING CITIZENS IN THIS COUNTRY. Such weapons have been available to the public for 100 years. The only thing new is the manufactured outrage from useful idiots and Marxist sympathizers. How does this cowardly judge plan on taking them away from us? What other constitutional rights does he plan on violating to get them? Has he ever heard of The 4th Amendment or due process?

    The real lapdogs here are the pathetic and ignorant fools who allow themselves to be manipulated by the current regime and its profiteering propaganda merchants in the corporate infotainment industry. If the judge wants any of my guns I invite him to personally come and try to take them. What a pathetic coward.

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  4. Dyspeptic
    Dyspeptic 20 December, 2012, 18:08

    Dear Stevefromsacto and all you Elmer Fudd sellouts like Judge Burns, here’s a newsflash for you:

    President Crocodile Tears has blood all over his hands! Another Operation Fast and Furious weapon was found at the scene of the murder of Mexican beauty queen Maria Susana Flores Gamez as reported by CBS news two days ago.

    Here’s another newsflash for you lovers of His Imperial Majesty the Murderer In Chief – former BATFE Assistant Special Agent George Gillette just got caught selling an FN Five-Seven semi-auto “cop killer” pistol in an unregistered transaction to an unidentified man. THE GUN WAS RECOVERED BY MEXICAN POLICE AT A GANG SHOOTOUT CRIME SCENE.

    George Gillette is one of the central figures in the Operation Fast And Furious Obama Administration scandal in which thousands of semi-auto rifles as well as grenade parts were smuggled into Mexico under the watchful eye of Obama’s BATFE. Why didn’t The Current Regime prosecute him for smuggling and violation of arms trade treaties? Because it would have hurt Obama’s re-election effort, duh. Instead, he got to retire on a full pension at our expense.

    No wonder Eric Holder had to lie to Congress about what and when he new about this murderous operation.

    No wonder Bloody Hands Obama had to issue an illegal executive order to cover up all of these murders committed in Mexico and the murder of Border Patrol agent Brian Terry with Fast and Furious weapons. How embarrassing for the Phony In Chief. And don’t forget the unconstitutional murders of American citizens Anwar Al-Awlaki and his 16 year old son by Presidential order. What a brave President we have, assassinating 16 year olds half way across the world with flying killer robots.

    Your hero is a mass murderer. Maybe he should be disarmed. Maybe he should be impeached.

    Until you drones and zombies face up to all the blood on your hands I don’t want to see your crocodile tears and hear you whine about disarming me. I haven’t killed anyone.


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  5. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 20 December, 2012, 18:30

    Judge Burns is a very widely respected federal judge. I agree with the high round capacity magazines, 10 rounds is plenty. I don’t agree with his comment on “assault” weapons ban, but I respect his argument nonetheless.

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  6. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 20 December, 2012, 18:41

    Eric Holder is a disgrace and should be in prison.

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  7. Donkey
    Donkey 20 December, 2012, 22:01

    @#6-Rex- You are correct my friend, “Eric Holder should be in prison”!!! 🙂 Look up the murder of Kenny Trentadue, and the connection of our dear friend Eric Holder. 🙂

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  8. Dyspeptic
    Dyspeptic 21 December, 2012, 11:32

    Dyspeptic, Judge Burns and I both know that the AR-15 Bushmaster rifle used in the Connecticut massacre was on the list of banned assault weapons until the law was allowed to expire by the gutless Congress in 2004. That is a good enough definition of an assault weapon for me.”

    Yes, I suppose it would be, wouldn’t it? You still haven’t explained what makes a rifle an “assault weapon” though. That can only be because neither you nor the judge knows! So both of you argue from a position of total ignorance based on legislation created by people like Dianne Feinstein who only several years ago were still claiming THAT THERE IS NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO OWN GUNS AT ALL!

    “You don’t need an assault weapon for hunting.”

    Both incorrect and irrelevant. Have you ever hunted SteveO? You seem to be as ignorant of that as you are of everything else. Do a Google search like “AR 15 for hunting”. I did and I got almost 7 million hits!

    One more time – THE 2ND AMENDMENT ISN’T PRIMARILY ABOUT ELMER FUDD AND WASCALLY WABBITS! It’s about the peoples right to have organized and unorganized militias for defense of self, community and the nation if necessary. IT SAYS SO RIGHT IN THE AMENDMENT ITSELF. DUH!

    There is a long history of court decisions up to and including SCOTUS that agree with me on this. Even U.S. vs. Miller 1939 recognized the right to own militia weapons. Go read attorney Steven Holbrook’s “That All Men Be Armed” to dispel your profound ignorance about the purpose of our right to keep and bear arms.

    “And if you lack the skill to defend yourself with a 10-round clip, shame on you.”



    SteveO, YOU STILL HAVEN’T EXPLAINED WHY SCARY BLACK RIFLES WITH “SHOULDER THINGS” (Carolyn McCarthy’s term) SHOULD BE BANNED. You just keep repeating the same old opinions devoid of fact.

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  9. Dyspeptic
    Dyspeptic 21 December, 2012, 11:37

    The first paragraph above is quoting SteveO and is missing a quote mark. I really wish this site had an edit function for comments.

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  10. Dyspeptic
    Dyspeptic 21 December, 2012, 12:14

    Rex, regarding 10 round magazine limits – banning them would not do anything to prevent mass shootings. You can do just as much damage to innocent people with a pump action 12 gauge shotgun loaded with 00 buckshot. Each buckshot round has up to 12 .32 caliber balls. THATS THE EQUIVALENT OF 12 PISTOLS SHOOTING AT ONCE. One shotgun will hold up to 10 rounds X 12 lead balls equals 120 pistol caliber bullets in one weapon. Think about that.

    As to Judge Burns, I neither respect nor agree with his arguments, which are technically devoid of pertinent facts and legally unsound since he doesn’t even seem aware of U.S. vs. Miller, not to mention U.S. vs. Cruickshank or Presser vs. Illinois.

    In U.S. vs. Miller SCOTUS specifically stated that the militia was “all males physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense” and that “when called for service these men were expected to appear bearing arms supplied by themselves and of the kind in common use at the time.” It cannot be denied that AR 15’s and “high capacity” magazines are in common use at this time. Millions of Americans own tens of millions of them. Do an internet search if you doubt me.

    Judge Burns may be respected, but on this subject he knows jack squat.

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  11. dltravers
    dltravers 22 December, 2012, 17:21

    Ever been pig hunting? Ever have some crazy boar try to run up your leg? It takes more than a few rounds to stop him if he catches you off-guard. By the way, those wild non indigenous boars create great environmental damage to our lands.

    We have become a violence, drug soaked society, from our foreign policy to our entertainment. Cleary the loony left is willing to have armed TSA agents look up their skirts yet they are only able to sing one song on what is happening in our society when these tragic events happen. That is ban guns.

    In fact, there are many other factors involved in this including easy access to powerful legal pharmaceutical drugs that are given to troubled children. The medical profession, parental responsibility (where was the dad?), and media responsibility. Many of us are older and can remember that gratuitous violence was largely absent in the media when we were growing up.

    In reality, working together towards solutions we can agree on some things. For example, strong background checks help. I watched a school official note that having armed police on the campuses in Richmond CA has cut down on violence on many levels.

    Asking for a dialog the left just wants to do what they want to do, that is ban guns. Opinions on the other side are not welcome and ridiculed.

    Such is our fear of we do not want to ban guns. The society they envision for us is a tyranny of ideas where only their ideas and solutions are needed. It’s a society where their special police, TSA comes to mind, is armed and roaming our society searching and imprisoning people who do not fit in to their views of what is a good citizen.

    God help us all if we get that far.

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  12. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 22 December, 2012, 17:43

    Dyspeptic says:

    I really wish this site had an edit function for comments.
    Same here……

    As for the 10 round magazines, 10 is still plenty of ammo, and in a semi auto where the clip can be exchanged in less than a second I don’t think it makes much difference if you can them or not, but 10 is a reasonable number to me, of course 5 may be reasonable to the gov 5 years from now, the old slippery slope comes into play.

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