CA suffers 2nd highest taxes; 2X liberal Wash State

CA suffers 2nd highest taxes; 2X liberal Wash State

A new study by WalletHub.com found California suffers the second highest state and local taxes of any state, after only New York. And California taxes, averaging $9,509 per family, are 2.4 times as high as even liberal Washington State; and a stunning four times as much as Wyoming.

In the chart, redder is higher taxes, greener is lower.

Wallet Hub rankings

Below are some of the states and the District of Columbia, with the ranking on the left and the median taxes paid on the right.

And what does the money buy? Education dominates state budgets. And in California, Proposition 98 even mandates that 40 percent of the state budget must go to education. Local school districts spend billions above that through taxes and bonds.

So in the list, to the right of the tax amount I’ve included each state’s 2013 score (in parentheses) from the 4th grade math test of the National Assessment of Educational Progress.

1. Wyoming, $2,365 (247)

2. Alaska, $2,791 (236)

3. Nevada, $3375 (236)

4. Florida, $3,648 (242)

6. Washington, $3,823 (246)

7. Texas, $5,193 (242)

37. District of Columbia, $8,034 (229)

50. California $9,509 (234)

51. New York $9,718 (240)

No correlation

What the numbers show is that there is, basically, no correlation between school spending and student achievement. California and New York spend the most, but have the same dismal scores as Nevada and Alaska, which spend among the least.

Wyoming and Washington State spend among the least, but enjoy some of the highest scores.

Florida and Texas spend little, but score in the middle of the pack on tests.

Taxes are high in California and New York, not because they purchase student achievement, but because public-employee unions are strong and can muscle state legislators, local politicians and school districts into providing high worker pay, perks and pensions.

Washington State is an anomaly because it’s now a heavily Blue State, heavily voting Democratic. Yet it still has no state income tax and government remains comparatively frugal. Maybe it’s all that rain.

 

 

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  1. SkippingDog
    SkippingDog 24 March, 2014, 10:39

    It’s amusing how quickly you’ve become attached to an artificial claim by an astroturf blog hawking credit card information. None of the claims stands up to the most basic level of scrutiny, nor do they comport with reports from reputable groups like the Tax Foundation.

    Just another day in the fringe wingnut echo chamber.

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  2. S Moderation Douglas
    S Moderation Douglas 24 March, 2014, 10:50

    Your not keeping up, Mr. Seiler;

    California taxes do NOT average $9,509 per family.

    For 2011, the per capita state/local tax in California was $5,136, ranked 4th highest state.
    Washington state was $4,366, ranked 27th
    Wyoming was $3,500, ranked 50th

    (TaxFoundation)

    The $9,509 figure is not an average or per capita or representative figure.

    It is a specific calculation for a California taxpayer who:

    Has income of……$65,596
    Has home valued at…..$174,600
    Has a car valued at….$17,547
    Money spent subject to sales tax…$10,327
    Amount spent on gas…$3,091
    Amount spent on beer…$420
    Amount spent on food…$3,910
    Amount spent on telephone service…$1,383

    I contacted the Wallethub organization about this misrepresented information. The response:

    ” david wrote: “@Douglas47: You are bringing up some excellent points but frankly your comments about certain articles having misunderstood the methodology of this study belong on those publications and not here. BTW, do you where can I see the raw numbers that ITEP used for each quantile (in terms of how much people spend on gas, food, etc.)?”

    Translation: it’s not our fault if they can’t read. (I disagree, actually. Their study was sloppy and ambiguous)
    ………………..BUT……..
    CalWatchdog:
    ” CalWatchdog is an independent, Sacramento-based journalism venture providing original investigative reports and news stories covering California state government.”

    “original investigative reports”, or copy and paste from obscure websites?
    ……………….
    ” CalWatchdog adheres to the Code of Ethics of the Society of Professional Journalists.”

    As in:
    ” — Test the accuracy of information from all sources and exercise care to avoid inadvertent error. Deliberate distortion is never permissible.”?

    ………
    I am still corresponding with Wallethub. Their study is misleading because it applies to a (very) specific cohort, but *appears* to be an average tax burden comparison. In every website I have visited, it has been represented as comparing state to state average taxes. It is not. Wallethub says it is not, and it’s not their fault if you cain’t read no better than no fifth grader.

    Additionally, now that we all KNOW we should read the methodology of any study (that journalism ethics thing). We look at Wallethub:

    ” Income Tax – State (for simplicity we did not take into account any deductions)”

    An income level of $66,000 and home valued at $174,000, and they compute state income tax with NO deductions. ????

    ………….
    There are other studies which compare state and local taxes at various income levels from state to state. They have been doing it for years, and all have *similar* results.

    As a rule, they list California taxes LOWER than Wallethub, for the approximate $66,000 income, and they list Washington state HIGHER.

    Maybe a “real” journalist will look into that.

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  3. S Moderation Douglas
    S Moderation Douglas 24 March, 2014, 11:15

    It’s ironic; sad, really, that you cite fourth grade math scores, when fifth grade reading comprehension (and a *little bit* of journalistic diligence) would have told you that those are NOT “median taxes”.

    And THEN…………………..blame it on the unions……………or the rain?

    This shall here and ever after be known as a ” Seilerism”.

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  4. Ted Steele, Manager
    Ted Steele, Manager 24 March, 2014, 13:13

    Fuzzy CWD math and teabag dreams do not Ranch El Cielo make——

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  5. S Moderation Douglas
    S Moderation Douglas 24 March, 2014, 14:01

    ” But the average Colorado resident will pay $5,674 in state and local taxes- 19% less than the national average and nearly $3,000 less than if he lived in Maine. ”

    ” In fact, the “average” tax burden for a resident of Vermont ($8,838) is slightly higher than that for someone living in New Jersey.”
    ……………………..
    LMAO

    Because Fox news could not STAND to be left out of the group of illiterate, innumerate, sheep mangling these “statistics”.

    Fair and balanced.
    ……………….
    ” If you live in a state that tends to vote “Democrat” in national elections, on average, your total state and local tax bill will be more than one-third higher than someone who lives in a Republican-leaning state. ”

    “One third higher”. Sorry, Fox news, that is not correct.

    GIGO

    At least they didn’t blame the unions.

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    • Donkey
      Donkey 24 March, 2014, 15:06

      A lot of propaganda being pushed by the RAGWUS feeders today. It must be the feeling that their free lunch is being noticed by the ones paying for their lifestyle. 🙂

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  6. S Moderation Douglas
    S Moderation Douglas 24 March, 2014, 20:01

    Hey!

    I know how to break up a party!

    And, without the help of Collapso.

    Reply this comment
  7. S Moderation Douglas
    S Moderation Douglas 24 March, 2014, 20:05

    ” — Test the accuracy of information from all sources and exercise care to avoid inadvertent error. Deliberate distortion is never permissible.”

    Reply this comment
    • Donkey
      Donkey 24 March, 2014, 20:52

      Seems to be the norm for those on the left!! 🙂

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      • SkippingDog
        SkippingDog 24 March, 2014, 22:03

        Are you the only member of the Teabilly Confederacy still posting here on CWD, Donk? Did you drive the other members of your clown posse away?

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        • Donkey
          Donkey 24 March, 2014, 22:11

          The other members work for a living, but I am not alone! I will never cease battling the RAGWUS.

          Unions leave a lot to be desired — but if I had a choice between government and no unions on the one hand or unions and no government on the other, it goes without saying which I’d choose.

          If unions without a government would be better than a government without unions, what’s so bad about unions bankrupting government?

          Why advocate ending collective bargaining for employees of a state monopoly when one can advocate ending state monopolies?

          The problem with public employee unions isn’t that they are unions, but that their members are public employees. The problem with collective bargaining for employees of a tax-funded state monopoly isn’t collective bargaining but that they are employees of a tax-funded state monopoly. The solution is revolutionary privatization, the workers seizing the means of production. 🙂

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          • Ted Steele, CEO
            Ted Steele, CEO 25 March, 2014, 06:58

            Ouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch— Duncey—-Waaaaaaaaay too long of a rant tome ™.

            The spittle drainage, possible electrical short on your keyboard and just general bunker hygiene dictates shorter more declarative communication.

            I think Skip is right though— it appears you have driven off your clown posse.

            Sorry little buddy.

          • S Moderation Douglas
            S Moderation Douglas 25 March, 2014, 08:05

            Workers seizing the means of production.

            Where have I heard that before?

          • Donkey
            Donkey 25 March, 2014, 09:55

            Your buddy Karl used it in some of his writings SMD, but I am using it in reference to the taxpayers throwing off their chains of RAGWUS oppression and rid ourselves of these self-serving parasites that call themselves public servants. 🙂

          • S Moderation Douglas
            S Moderation Douglas 25 March, 2014, 18:35

            1. Copy
            2. Paste
            3. Credit the original author

            “Sure, establishment unions leave a lot to be desired — but if I had a choice between government and no unions on the one hand or unions and no government on the other, it goes without saying which I’d choose.

            If unions without a government would be better than a government without unions, what’s so bad about unions bankrupting government?

            Why advocate ending collective bargaining for employees of a state monopoly when one can advocate ending state monopolies?

            The problem with public employee unions isn’t that they are unions, but that their members are public employees. The problem with collective bargaining for employees of a tax-funded state monopoly isn’t collective bargaining but that they are employees of a tax-funded state monopoly. The solution is revolutionary privatization — the workers seizing the means of production.”

            Brad Spangler.

  8. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 25 March, 2014, 08:29

    Dougbub

    Power to the people Bro!

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    • S Moderation Douglas
      S Moderation Douglas 25 March, 2014, 08:43

      ” — Test the accuracy of information from all sources and exercise care to avoid inadvertent error. Deliberate distortion is never permissible.”

      That’s going in my permanent copy/paste file.
      You may see it again. Let me know if I overdo it.

      John? Chris?

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      • Donkey
        Donkey 25 March, 2014, 09:45

        ” — Test the accuracy of information from all sources and exercise care to avoid inadvertent error. Deliberate distortion is never permissible.”

        “Deliberate distortion” is the norm for all RAGWUS propaganda emanating from the parasitic class. 🙂

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        • SkippingDog
          SkippingDog 25 March, 2014, 10:42

          Wow, Donk. You’re getting to be more like a “random unhinged rant generator” with each passing day.

          Do you have firearms or other weapons at your house?

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          • Ted Steele, Manager
            Ted Steele, Manager 25 March, 2014, 12:53

            “Randon Unhinged Rant Generator”— LMAO ™

            A RURG

          • Donkey
            Donkey 25 March, 2014, 13:52

            Are you going to have me SWATED Skdog? You would have been a big star in the Soviet Union, or maybe Putin can use you, I understand he is looking for another good henchman. 🙂

  9. S Moderation Douglas
    S Moderation Douglas 25 March, 2014, 10:58

    Move along.

    This story has burned out.

    Skip, I have a ten inch table saw and some sweet painkillers…almost as good as a gun.

    RIP on this story

    and AFK for me

    Reply this comment
  10. SeeSaw
    SeeSaw 25 March, 2014, 13:49

    The non-partisan CA Budget Project did a Study in 2009 and Steve Lopez, reputable LA Times columnist published the results of that Study saying that the state of CA ranked 17th overall in total taxation. I guess it depends on who you trust, when it comes to what you decide to believe. I choose Lopez.

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  11. SeeSaw
    SeeSaw 25 March, 2014, 19:37

    Yes–I really don’t believe that CA would have moved up the tax-ladder from 17th to 2nd in five years, though.

    Reply this comment
  12. David N
    David N 26 March, 2014, 09:48

    My wife and I are both engineers and, yes, we make quite a bit more than $65,000. Having said that, our California state income tax was, by itself, on the order of $1500/month. We left in 2006 and moved to Houston. Texas is way cheaper.

    Our neighbors are almost all from California. On weekends we have barbeque with them and we all laugh and call ourselves economic refugees from California.

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