Debate: Kashkari closing channels Reagan in 1980

Questioner asks about high cost of UC, CSU being barrier to poor students.

Kashkari sympathizes and cites student loan burders.

Brown notes, correctly, how many CSU and UC students pay no tuition because of waivers and says CA students have lower loan burden than national average.

Questioner asks why not another debate.

Brown basically says one is enough.

Brown’s closing statement focuses on CA comeback theme.

He saved CA from being a “failed state” like Greece. Takes credit for 1.3 million job growth over last four years.

Kashkari channels Reagan in 1980 debate with Carter: Do Californians feel good about their jobs, their prospects? No.

He will help CA “rebuild middle-class.”

“I don’t think we’re back.”

As credits roll, Brown picks up Kashkari’s pen from floor and hands it to him. Civility reigns!

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  1. Stanley K.
    Stanley K. 4 September, 2014, 21:10

    The replay of the debate is available here:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKjuxVjPbMk
    Well worth the time, lots of fireworks

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  2. Ted Steele, Editor
    Ted Steele, Editor 4 September, 2014, 21:22

    Whoa— Brown cleaned his clock like a statesman!

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  3. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 4 September, 2014, 22:41

    We better hope one of these two candidates is correct…otherwise….it ain’t gonna be pretty!

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  4. Bill Gore
    Bill Gore 5 September, 2014, 07:08

    Absolutely positively guaranteed that Governor Kashcarry would make LA eat its losses on the sewer bond swap. No way this kreep would be disloyal to his class (PRINCETON, GOLDMAN SACHS).

    California voters wear their ignorance like a shield. Look-there’s a palm tree! How cool is that? They will never put down the bong or drive east of the 5. Too much reality…..

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  5. LetitCollapse
    LetitCollapse 5 September, 2014, 08:24

    At least Brownie agreed to one debate. He didn’t even have to do that with his huge lead in the polls. Either way, Moonie will trounce the Kashkari, another Republican plastic candidate. The Republicans haven’t offered a decent choice for governor’s office since the days of Pete Wilson. The Republicans have destroyed their own party by moving away from conservative values. They did it to themselves by prostituting their core values.

    Besides, I don’t vote much these days. I refuse to vote for the lesser of 2 evils. Kashkari was Hank Paulson’s TARP buttboy. TARP was the biggest strongarmed robbery perpetrated on the taxpayers in the history of America. I don’t vote for robbers.

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  6. bob
    bob 5 September, 2014, 08:33

    CashNCarry hasn’t got a chance.

    Even though Colliefornia has the highest taxes in the country and fuel prices will go up big time next year do to AB 32 which Brown loves, the old Brown Buzzard wins in a landslide.

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    • S Moderation Douglas
      S Moderation Douglas 5 September, 2014, 10:40

      Despite repeated claims, California does not have the highest taxes in the country, unless you happen to be one of those unfortunate Californians who earn over $300,000 a year.

      Californians who earn $50,000 a year or less, pay state and local taxes lower than the national average. Maybe even lower than…………..Texas.

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      • LetitCollapse
        LetitCollapse 5 September, 2014, 11:57

        Don’t forget about all the HIDDEN regressive taxes and so-called fees that the lower-income California wage earners must pay. Gas taxes and sales taxes are the highest in the nation. Cigarette taxes are off the charts(smokers tend to be low income), add-on taxes for moving violations ($500 or more for a lousy rolling stop, plus the insurance rate hikes. Even with Prop 13 California is ranked #19 in property tax revenue per capita and rents are among the highest in the nation, etc… So when you factor in all the HIDDEN REGRESSIVE TAXES in California the lower-income residents pay among the highest tax rates in America.

        And since California has 33% of the nation’s welfare population but only 12% of the nation’s total population – somebody has to pay for all those poor folks in form of taxes.

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        • S Moderation Douglas
          S Moderation Douglas 5 September, 2014, 13:16

          Actually, those numbers include ALL state and local taxes.

          AND,

          California has 12% of the nation’s population and about 13% of the nation’s welfare COSTS. High, but there are about seven states with higher per capita welfare costs.

          “33% of welfare cases” is a Whitmanism that apparently caught on much better than she did. It is true-ish.

          I don’t know why people get so upset when they learn their taxes are actually lower than average. Not funny if you move to Arkansas to escape “Taxifornia”, and find out your taxes are HIGHER there.

          In California our glass is MORE than half full.

          I don’t know how much you pay for a rolling stop in Arkansas, but there’s a simple way to avoid that charge.

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          • LetitCollapse
            LetitCollapse 5 September, 2014, 13:44

            What you claim makes no sense. You need to link proof sources to support what you claim.

            Former Gov Schwarzenegger publicly stated that California has 12% of the nation’s population and 33% of the nation’s welfare recipients. Those numbers were not disputed. If this state has 33% of the nation’s welfare population the statistical probability that that we only have 13% of the nation’s welfare costs is 0%. Your claim is simply unbelieveable and falls upon deaf ears.

            The Tax Foundation based in Washington DC ranked California as the #3 worst tax state in the nation. And those numbers don’t even include all the hidden taxes and fees that Californians pay. The facts speak for themselves. Nothing follows….

          • S Moderation Douglas
            S Moderation Douglas 5 September, 2014, 17:09

            That’s the difference between “true” and “true-ish”.

            http://factfinder2.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?src=bkmk

            According to this data (2012) total US expenditures for welfare were $489,201,919. California expenditures were $69,087,772. 14.1%

            Higher than the last time I checked, but nowhere near 33%.
            …………………………….
            The difference? 33% is referring to ONE program within the health and welfare expenditures: TANF Temporary Assistance for Needy Families. (called CalWORKS in California)
            The total expenditures for TANF in California fiscal year were about $6 billion of which $3.6 B was federal awards and $2.4 was state MOE (matching funds)

            Even though, in this program, California ACTUALLY does have 33% of national CASES….it has about 19% of national expenditures.
            It IS statistically probable to have 33% of *cases*, but 19% (or less)of *costs* IF average dollar value of each case is lower than the national average. It is my understanding that California has more ” child only”, as opposed to family cases.

            http://www.acf.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/ofa/fy2012_expenditures.pdf
            …………………………….
            Bottom line, out of a $70 billion state welfare budget, Meg is saying ONE program has 33% more “cases” (not 33% more cost), and that ONE program is less than 10% of the states total welfare spending.

            Technically true, but grossly misleading.

          • S Moderation Douglas
            S Moderation Douglas 5 September, 2014, 19:13

            The last data I saw from Tax foundation said we were #4, not 3, but either case is not “highest taxes in the country”.

            State by state data shows that the highest earners in California pay a MUCH higher percentage of their income in state and local taxes than the high income earners in other states.

            Conversely, the LOWEST 60% pay lower state and local taxes than the national average.

            http://www.itep.org/whopays/#map (complete report PDF, page 19)

            What’s more, even the highest earners in California pay a lower percentage than the national average for the lowest 60%.

            …………..
            “California has among the highest income tax rates for upper-income households and one of the lowest income tax rates for lower-income households. The top 1% of income taxpayers in California account for over 40% of income tax revenue.”
            “California has an above-average state sales tax rate, but taxes few services compared to other states.”

            http://www.budgetchallenge.org/pages/ca_vs_other_states
            ……………….

          • S Moderation Douglas
            S Moderation Douglas 5 September, 2014, 20:32

            Make that $489 BILLION for fed welfare and $69 Billion for state.

          • LetitCollapse
            LetitCollapse 5 September, 2014, 22:28

            Fuzzy math, SMD.

            Linked below are the latest welfare expenditures state by state for FY 2014.

            http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/compare_state_spending_2014b40an

            Note that total State and Local (S&L) welfare expenditures in Cali was $47.2B.

            Total S&L welfare expenditures for the nation was $240.9B.

            So California spent 19.6% of all S&L welfare expenditures nationally.

            California’s population is 38.7M. America’s population is 319.6M.

            So California has about 12.1% of the nation’s population.

            Pay attention. Cali accounts for 19.6% of all S&L welfare expenditures while accounting for only 12.1% of the nation’s population.

            IOW’s Cali has 1 of every 8 Americans yet we spend about $1 of every $5 that is spent on welfare by state and local gov’s nationally.

            We know that Cali has the highest poverty rate of any other state according to the US Census Bureau.

            Yet Gov Brownie and company encourage the importation of more poverty from 3rd world nations and by doing so exaccerbate an already tremendous problem.

            One cannot prosper by importing poverty. Businesses are leaving and millions of indigent illegals are swarming across the border encouraged by all the pro-illegal migrant state legislation.

            What could possibly go wrong with that? 🙂

          • S Moderation Douglas
            S Moderation Douglas 6 September, 2014, 02:10

            LetitCollapse,

            I followed your link and I see the California expenditures of $47.2B, with national expenditures of $240.9B, leaving California with 19.6% of national expenditures.

            These figures are not even close to what I found on US Census website.

            At the bottom of usgovernmentspending website, they give their data source as a clickable link at State and Local Gov. Finances.

            At that site, there is an excel spreadsheet download :

            “US Summary & Alabama – Mississippi”

            That lists, line 108….Public welfare….US Total…state & local gov amount…492,007,114,000

            Line 108…California…. state & local gov amount…..67,669,710,000

            13.7%

            The data on the Census spreadsheet is from 2011, and very close to the 2012 data I cited before. I have no idea how usgovernmentspending.com came up with $240.9B and $47.2B.

            Unless I see some explanation for the discrepancy, I will go with the US Census figures.

          • S Moderation Douglas
            S Moderation Douglas 6 September, 2014, 06:53

            Taxes

            The last data I saw from Tax foundation said we were #4, not 3, but either case is not “highest taxes in the country”.

            State by state data shows that the highest earners in California pay a MUCH higher percentage of their income in state and local taxes than the high income earners in other states.

            Conversely, the LOWEST 60% pay lower state and local taxes than the national average.

            http://www.itep.org/whopays/#map (complete report PDF, page 19)

            What’s more, even the highest earners in California pay a lower percentage than the national average for the lowest 60%.

            …………..
            “California has among the highest income tax rates for upper-income households and one of the lowest income tax rates for lower-income households. The top 1% of income taxpayers in California account for over 40% of income tax revenue.”
            “California has an above-average state sales tax rate, but taxes few services compared to other states.”

            http://www.budgetchallenge.org/pages/ca_vs_other_states
            ……………….

          • LetitCollapse
            LetitCollapse 6 September, 2014, 08:58

            “I have no idea how usgovernmentspending.com came up with $240.9B and $47.2B.”

            Easy, SMD. The numbers were derived from the sources that actually spend the money – the states themselves. Straight from the horse’s mouth. Government figures. Where else would usgovernmentspending.com get their numbers? So the claim that Californian’s get paid less on average in welfare that other state residents is totally bogus. In fact, California is one of the few states that ignores the Federal legislation passed under Clinton that requires able bodied welfare recipients to work for their transfer payments. No wonder California has 33% of the nation’s welfare population! lol. What wouldn’t a welfare recipient love about that? No work required in California! lol.

            In 2013 a study was conducted by the CATO Institute. It translated state by state the equivalent wage for a person collecting welfare in each respective state. California was ranked #11 with an equivalent wage of $17.87 per hour for being on welfare. So the claim that Californians on welfare get fewer welfare benefits, on average, than recipients in other states is totally bogus. And here is the proof:

            http://news.msn.com/us/govt-aid-pays-more-than-a-minimum-wage-job-in-35-states

            Hope this information helps you reevaluate your opinion.

          • bob
            bob 6 September, 2014, 10:13

            http://www.itep.org/whopays/#map

            This site can’t be trusted, Doglass. According to them our sales tax is 6.25%.

            Scroll down to sales tax features on the right side of the page (California By the Numbers)

            http://www.itep.org/state_reports/california.php

            Sales Tax Features (2012)

            State Sales Tax Rate: 6.25%

          • Donkey
            Donkey 6 September, 2014, 10:58

            LIC, don’t expect any logic and reason from S&MD, a RAGWUS feeder is all he can be!! 🙂

          • S Moderation Douglas
            S Moderation Douglas 6 September, 2014, 11:18

            LetitCollapse,

            ” The numbers were derived from the sources that actually spend the money – the states themselves. Straight from the horse’s mouth.”

            Pay attention. They have a direct link to their data source, US Census Bureau, which has clearly labeled Public Welfare amounts not even close to usgovernmentspending.com figures.

            And, Cato says:

            “It should be noted that not everyone receiving public assistance is eligible for or receives all of the programs included in Cato’s study. So if a person didn’t get help from all of the programs Cato studied, they might actually make less than minimum wage.”

            No kidding.

            http://www.businessinsider.com/does-welfare-really-pay-better-than-work-2013-8

          • LetitCollapse
            LetitCollapse 6 September, 2014, 21:40

            SMD, You seem particularly resistant to the facts and the truth. Here, I’ll try again.

            The Union Tribune of San Diego compiled a welfare chart of how we compare to other states based upon government data. Here it is:

            http://media.utsandiego.com/news/documents/2012/07/28/323164_1d29welfare-1.pdf

            California ranks #3 in welfare spending per capita ($179). Only Hawaii and New York outspend us on a per-capita basis.

            The chart makes it very clear that California has 1/3 of the nation’s welfare recipients and California spends 1/5th of all welfare expenditures nationally, as compared to all other 49 states. (note: 1/5 = 20%)

            It seems that everyone concurs with these facts except for you.

            And given all these facts, your esteemed governor still wants to import more poverty from 3rd world crapholes. He has signed legislation that protects illegals who break into our state, steal our jobs and collect many freebies compliments of the California taxpayers.

            Hopefully those like you will pull their heads from the sand and wake up to the fact that the current state administration is destroying the fabric of California and turning us into a 3rd world craphole. Since I have lived most my life I am not so concerned about the impact it has on my life. I am concerned how it is destroying the quality of life and the future of our young people. Look at how the quality of our schools have deteriorated with 30% of California public school students who are either “illegal or can’t speak english” in the words of your esteemed governor. Wake up before it’s too late to make a difference.

          • S Moderation Douglas
            S Moderation Douglas 7 September, 2014, 05:12

            LetitCollapse?

            ” The chart makes it very clear that California has 1/3 of the nation’s welfare recipients and California spends 1/5th of all welfare expenditures nationally, as compared to all other 49 states. (note: 1/5 = 20%) It seems that everyone concurs with these facts except for you. ”
            .
            You’re embarrassing yourself. Please reread my previous post, about #12 in the list:

            ” The total expenditures for TANF in California fiscal year were about $6 billion of which $3.6 B was federal awards and $2.4 was state MOE (matching funds) Even though, in this program, California ACTUALLY does have 33% of national CASES….it has about 19% of national expenditures.”

            Deja vu?

            What I said, several times, is that TANF is only ONE program in California’s public welfare system. The entire set of California welfare spending is around $70 billion. That $70 billion is about 13% of the nations total.

            Now that my head is out of the sand, I have some good news/bad news. What this means is that our per capita “welfare” costs are not $179. They are over $1,800.

            The difference is, I don’t believe that is “destroying the fabric of California”.

          • LetitCollapse
            LetitCollapse 7 September, 2014, 10:16

            SMD, I have provided 3 or 4 proof sources that completely refute your claims. It’s quite obvious to me now that you are willfully oblivious to the truth and to the facts. Everyone and his brother knows that California is the nation’s welfare capital. And everyone knows that the illegals and anchor babies in our public schools have caused a sharp deterioration in our education system. First they blamed low test scores and failing grades on hungry students. So we gave them free food and cafeterias is practically every school. Grades and test scores continued to plummet. Then they said the reason was due to a lack of funding to the public schools. So we passed a multitude of school bonds and give nearly half of our state budget to K-12. Test scores and grades continued to tank. And now we are #46 out of 50 in school rankings nationally. lol. No one wants to accept the truth. You see, the massive importation of indigents and poverty from 3rd world crapholes is highly destructive to a society. That is the reason no other civilized nation does it. We are being led by the insane who have the willful intention to destroy California and our once prosperous way of life. And those like you are bending over and kissing their boots. So sad.

          • LetitCollapse
            LetitCollapse 7 September, 2014, 10:22

            Oh, and SMD. You never responded to Bob’s comment about the inaccuracy of the state’s sales tax rate at the link you provided. 6.25%? What century are they referring to? lol.

            When you link a source make sure its information is trustworthy, SMD. Otherwise it destroys your argument.

            Enjoy your Sunday.

          • S Moderation Douglas
            S Moderation Douglas 7 September, 2014, 12:21

            Seriously

            There are two major institutions compiling tax data in the US. TaxFoundation, generally considered a conservative think tank compiling tax data since the forties. And ITEP, generally considered liberal, has been doing it since the eighties. They both use computer models based on hundreds of thousands of data points.

            Taxfoundations California page says sales tax is 7.5%. ITEP says the average combined state& local tax is 8.2%.

            Whose information is “trustworthy”? To arrive at the effective tax burden, each has to first estimate what portion of income each group spends on taxable goods. The margin of error there makes .25% look like a drop in the barrel.

            I used ITEP because they are the ONLY institution that breaks down tax burdens by income group. Their overall state data is very similar to Taxfoundation.

            I also cited one other study which compares computed tax burdens in major cities in each state. Though not as dramatic as ITEP, it shows middle to lower income Californians tax burdens in L.A. rank between 12th and 18th nationwide. Not the “highest taxes” in the nation. Not even in the top twenty percent. http://cfo.dc.gov/node/768732
            ……………………………
            This discussion started with “Colliefornia has the highest taxes in the country”. Clearly shown to be incorrect even by your “proof sources”.

            “California is the nation’s welfare capital”: incorrect, according to your “proof sources”. Even MORE incorrect when considering the TOTAL welfare expenditures.

            Don’t shoot the messenger. When you shout Fox news misleading headlines, I will quietly point out your error.

            A .25% difference in sales tax is less than $8 a month for the average Californian. About $2 a month for the poorest. I will GIVE you $2 if you should ever become mature enough to be trusted with money.

          • LetitCollapse
            LetitCollapse 7 September, 2014, 14:01

            I have already shown through independent sources that California is ranked #3 in the nation with welfare spending per capita (Source: UT San Diego). I have already shown that California is home for 33% (33%=1/3) of all welfare recipients in the United States and that $1 of every $5 dollars spent on welfare is spent by the State of California (1/5=20%)(Source: usgovernmentspending.com) All data was collected from government sources.

            You originally stated that Ca is accountable for only 13% of welfare spending. A wild inaccuracy. And you have failed to acknowledge that the State of California has ignored the ‘welfare to work’ federal requirements that limit the amount of time a recipient can remain on welfare without completing training or seeking employment. That is the huge carrot that draws so many welfare recipients to California. The failure of the State to enforce the ‘welfare to work’ laws and to allow people to subsist off the generous welfare programs. Career welfarists – and it is perpetrated through the family generations. Teenage girls drop their first offspring at the age of 14 or 15 and mimic mom. And the State of California encourages this behavior and vicious cycle by virtue of the generous welfare benefits it awards to the most unproductive people in our society.

            I know you won’t agree with the facts here. I am writing to educate others and to point out your misinformations.

          • S Moderation Douglas
            S Moderation Douglas 7 September, 2014, 14:53

            Between 14 year old teenage moms, ” $500 or more for a lousy rolling stop”, and ” all the HIDDEN regressive taxes and so-called fees”, your existence must be a living hell.

            I’m sorry to add to your burden the disappointing news that your taxes are not actually high enough to qualify as a true martyr. Fortunately for you, there are still numerous other opportunities in California for tilting at windmills.

            Good old first world problems like “OMG!!!! I have to press “one” for English!!!”

            For the rest of us, the glass is at least half full.

            L
            O
            L

          • LetitCollapse
            LetitCollapse 7 September, 2014, 17:15

            You remind me of the ultimate optimist on the Titanic who tried to reassure the other passengers that it was only a small leak and that that the maintenance crew would have it fixed in no time. The Titanic was sink proof! lol. Then when the ship tilted at a 45 degree angle you ran to find a lifeboat, only to learn there were none left. lol. The rest is history. lol.

            Fast forward 100 years. The California welfare state is sustainable! Everything is ok. Don’t panic. Especially with illegals pouring over the border by the millions to get their free medical care, education and CA driver’s licenses!!! LOL!!!!

            I’m finished with you!!!! LOL!

        • bob
          bob 5 September, 2014, 20:47

          There’s no sense talking logic to him, LetitCollapse. Several people have cited facts and figures but to no avail. He is a member of the RAWGI class.

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      • bob
        bob 5 September, 2014, 15:48

        Pure shinola, S Moderation Doglass. Many people have pointed out to you over and over and over that Colliefornia (as Ahnode calls it) is a high tax state with a high cost of living even if you are middle or lower middle class but you refuse to acknowledge this because you are a bought and paid member of the RAWGI class. You are fooling no one. If it weren’t for the gummit teat you’d be a goner.

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  7. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 5 September, 2014, 09:12

    Teddy…he is back.

    He appears lucid and refreshed….not happy though….about usual for spawn of the Doom Machine!

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  8. LetitCollapse
    LetitCollapse 5 September, 2014, 09:43

    I am very surprised that the gubblenor didn’t look all illegal invader viewers in the eye during the debate and repeat the quote that he used during the Mexican president’s visit: “It doesn’t if you had permission to be in the United States. You’re all welcome in California.”

    Kashkari should have reminded him that he took a sworn oath to uphold the law upon entering office.

    And then he can’t figure out why California has the highest poverty rate in the nation and the California K-12 schools are ranked 46th out of 50. lol.

    So stupid it burns.

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  9. SoCalSteve
    SoCalSteve 5 September, 2014, 10:59

    Kashkari channels Reagan in 1980 debate with Carter: “Do Californians feel good about their jobs, their prospects? No.”

    WRONG ANSWER! http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Field-Poll-Voters-say-things-are-looking-up-5735299.phphttp://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Field-Poll-Voters-say-things-are-looking-up-5735299.php

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  10. SoCalSteve
    SoCalSteve 5 September, 2014, 11:06

    “The Republicans have destroyed their own party by moving away from conservative values.” Wrong.

    The Republicans have destroyed their own party by moving away from the values the majority of Californians value.
    That’s why they will continue to lose election after election.

    And the saddest thing is that real conservatives–like Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan–would have never supported the anti-immigrant, anti-women, anti-gay policies espoused by today’s Republican Party.

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  11. LetitCollapse
    LetitCollapse 5 September, 2014, 12:10

    “The Republicans have destroyed their own party by moving away from the values the majority of Californians value.”

    So if the majority of Californians value and endorse bank robbery is it the politician’s job to legalize it? I think not.

    I rarely come across a Republican who is anti-immigration. Most applaud those immigrants who enter our nation through lawful means, are self-supporting and have skills to contribute to the state and nation.

    I can’t imagine any real American being pro-illegal immigration, which is destructive to our nation and erodes our soverignty. Those are the ones who worry me. The ones who applaud rewarding criminals who come here unlawfully and steal jobs with there are 92 million working aged Americans either unemployed or underemployed. Apparently Governor Brownie is part of that group based on his recent quotes and his approval of pro-illegal immigration laws. Shame on him!

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    • SoCalSteve
      SoCalSteve 5 September, 2014, 18:22

      The majority of Californians do not value and endorse bank robbery. But neither do they endorse many of the policies espoused by the Republicans. That is why the Republicans continue to lose election after election. It’s called democracy, bucko. That’s the way our system works.

      Kashkari was, in some respects, a breath of fresh air, actually talking as if the Republicans gave a s–t about the environment, minority children and the poor. Truth be told, if your role model was someone like Kashkari rather than Tim Donnelly, you might have a shot at turning things around. But I don’t see that happening anytime soon.

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      • LetitCollapse
        LetitCollapse 5 September, 2014, 22:36

        SoCalSteve, so you think that 2 wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for dinner is a workable form of democracy?

        Immigration reform should = enforcing the laws currently on the books. Nothing more, nothing less. Even the liberals in Western Europe vigorously enforce their immigration laws as a means to protect their own citizens. But insanity reigns in America.

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        • Donkey
          Donkey 6 September, 2014, 11:04

          The RAGUWS feeders only believe laws that cover their compensation and pensions are valid, all others are to be ignored!! 🙂

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          • LetitCollapse
            LetitCollapse 6 September, 2014, 20:26

            Yes, donk. It’s as if we have the insane running the State. It’s a train wreck in motion. During the debate Brownie said that about 30% of the school kids in Cali public schools are either illegal or can’t speak english. And then none of them can understand why our public schools are ranked #46 out of 50 in achievement. lol. And Brownie wants to import even more poverty from these 3rd world crapholes. This is all a disaster waiting to happen. Our culture is being destroyed. The ones who are sworn to protect us are destroying us. I am damn glad I am as old as I am. I just feel so sorry for the young kids. We (my generation) has really screwed them over.

          • Donkey
            Donkey 7 September, 2014, 08:42

            LIC, the RAGWUS feeders run all the bureaucracies in the state. There was a collusion effort by the teachers union to bring illegal aliens into K-12 districts to keep teachers employed as the children on the boomer generation were completing their public indoctrination in their best efforts to keep the public money flowing to their incompetent bureaucracy, just as the public safety RAGWUS has used crime and the courts to create the largest Prison Industrial Complex on Gaia. It’s all about, as Pink Floyd says “money, money, money…moooney, money!!” 🙂 🙂 🙂

          • LetitCollapse
            LetitCollapse 7 September, 2014, 14:14

            As usual, you are right on target, donk.

            The teacher’s union promotes the importation of poverty from other nations – and illegal immigration. Even though they KNOW it contributes heavily to the deterioration of our public school system and causes great harm to the students who are motivated to learn. It disrupts the learning process and it forces the schools to redirect taxpayer monies from the motivated students to the ones who can’t even speak the english language. No other civilized nation on earth allows this. Mexico certainly doesn’t. Try to find a “spanish second language” curriculum in a public school in Mexico. lol. Yet the Mexican government encourages the poorest of their poor to trek north across the US border and let the stupid Americans take care of them. We are witnessing the destruction of a once great nation. But the teachers don’t care. As long as it adds more students to the classroom and they get more money from the State for their fat salaries and pensions – it’s all good. The teachers are complicit in destroying the country. Very sad.

            And, yes, the prison system is just as pathetic. We (America) have 5% of the world’s population and 25% of the world’s prisoners. Yet they continue to call us the “land of freedom”. lol. We are BY FAR the nation with the largest prison population per capita. Yes, far more than Iran, Iraq, North Korea, Russia, Syria, China, Pakistan, etc…..

            I’ve seen America at it’s best. And now I see it at it’s worst. I feel very sorry for the younger generations. And as an old fart, I always apologize to them whenever the opportunity arises.

  12. Ted the Godhead of CWD
    Ted the Godhead of CWD 5 September, 2014, 20:11

    Yes!!! Bo bo is back too!!!!!!

    CWD is back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  13. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 5 September, 2014, 22:29

    Going to be a long long Fall. Poodle, Donkey, Bo Bo and El Collapso….whew-

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  14. Ted Steele, The Decider
    Ted Steele, The Decider 6 September, 2014, 20:23

    We have ALL three trolls on one thread!!

    Duncey
    Bo bo
    and
    wait for it…

    El Collapso!!

    All we needed for perfection was the female Poodle!

    God Bless them all!

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    • Donkey
      Donkey 7 September, 2014, 08:46

      The private sector workers are now realizing that the crooked system you RAGWUS feeders have created is the problem TCS. I will have much delight in watching it all dissolve before my eyes!! 🙂

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    • Donkey
      Donkey 7 September, 2014, 08:46

      In the meantime, “Go Bruins!!!” 🙂

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      • Ted O'Steele, CEO
        Ted O'Steele, CEO 7 September, 2014, 21:13

        Poor Duncey—

        Yet again another of her famous “predictions” of doom that will never come…..Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

        Can you tell us the year?
        3 years ago you said Calpers would be bk in 3 years! LMAO

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        • Donkey
          Donkey 9 September, 2014, 07:40

          Never said any such thing TCS, but since the RAGWUS is built on lies I expect nothing else from a founding member like you!!

          I will inform you that you are spinning faster and faster down the drain my little parasite, but nothing will change your greed addicted mind. You have no moral compass and your only empathy is for yourself. 🙂

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