DeMaio/Reed pension reform initiative may be pushed back to 2018 ballot

pension_reform_moneyOver the weekend, two sources indicated to me that the Chuck Reed/Carl DeMaio pension reform initiative would be pulled, re-written, and re-submitted to the attorney general for a new title and summary. If it is to be re-filed, it is worth considering for which ballot it would be re-submitted.

Whatever a new initiative might declare would be attacked by public employee unions with criticisms real or imagined. But would the placement of the initiative on the 2018 ballot give the measure a higher probability of success?

The 2016 presidential election will bring out a greater turnout of voters, many occasional voters who don’t pay as much attention to public affairs. The profile for the 2016 electorate would contain a larger percentage turnout of Democratic voters who are more closely connected to public employees whose union leaders will rail against any pension reform initiative.

Considering which ballot may be more friendly to a particular measure is common practice in the California initiative world.

Tax increase advocates discussing a plethora of possible tax measures for the 2016 ballot consider the profile of the presidential election voter more friendly to their cause. The Proposition 30 tax extension measure has already been filed, more tax measures may follow.

Another factor proponents of the pension reform effort might consider is who will write the title and summary.

Twice Attorney General Kamala Harris has authored titles and summaries that, according to Reed and DeMaio, were biased in a way that would damage the initiative’s chances of passing. The attorney general emphasized that the pension reform would hurt those who serve in jobs that the voters clearly respect such as police officers, firefighters and teachers. Harris’ summary of the current measure states that it eliminates constitutional protections from public workers that the proponents called misleading.

If the initiative is re-filed soon, Harris will have a third shot at writing the title and summary. However, if the initiative is filed for the 2018 ballot it is possible Harris will no longer be the attorney general.

Kamala Harris is the leading candidate to take the United States Senate seat currently held by the retiring Barbara Boxer. Should Harris win next year, Governor Jerry Brown will appoint an attorney general to fill out her term.

That means a new attorney general will be writing ballot titles and summaries for the 2018 ballot. There is no guarantee that Brown would appoint anyone less sympathetic to public employee unions than Harris has been. However, if Brown appoints a caretaker to the post, someone to fill the term but with no ambition to seek that office or another, then the new attorney general would not be as susceptible to union pressure in an upcoming election.

A roll of the dice, perhaps, for pension reform proponents, but something to consider if they want to take another bite at getting a title and summary they consider fair.


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  1. Ted
    Ted 22 September, 2015, 10:39

    Honestly– What a load of dishonest Machiavellian nonsense. If they want to create something lawful — I’ll wait and see. So far these two clowns just spew tea baggy talking point garbage that is always…well…unlawful. And worse….they seem to have zero concept of sincere actuarial concepts—– how on earth does eliminating new employees from contributing into the 300 billion dollar fund help the fund’s health? Of course it does not and they don’t care. Taxpayers will be stuck filling in the damage they do. The current fund has helped thousands of honest hard working people live a decent life in retirement with most of the pensions at a modest rate.

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    • jp
      jp 22 September, 2015, 11:21

      The practice of the public funding government pensions is about as attractive to me as welfare for psychopathic bankers. Not quite, but it’s a HUGE problem, with no sanity in sight.

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    • Rex the Wonder Dog!
      Rex the Wonder Dog! 23 September, 2015, 13:02

      Look, it is Teddy Steals and his low life trough feeding buddies relaxing after lunch!

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    • SeeSaw
      SeeSaw 24 September, 2015, 00:20

      Amen! The “bi-partisan” coalition that concocted this mess is comprised of a total of six former and current CA officials who are grasping at straws to stay personally relevant as, “well-knowns”. They need to get a life!

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      • Rex the Wonder Dog!
        Rex the Wonder Dog! 24 September, 2015, 10:28

        Why do you ALWAYS try to spin the truth seesaw? Your pension is double what it would be under soc, sec., yet you still whine and complain.

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        • SeeSaw
          SeeSaw 24 September, 2015, 13:07

          You have only one weapon in your usual bag of jealous rants–accusing other posters of lying. There is no reason to compare my pension with SS. I was a pension recipient who was not covered by SS in my employment. I am a SS recipient though, being the spouse of one–my spousal, share of SS is zero, due to the GPO. That is a fact–not a whine.

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          • Rex the Wonder Dog!
            Rex the Wonder Dog! 24 September, 2015, 22:13

            You know what else is a FACT???

            Your pension is DOUBLE what the MAX pension would be under Soc. Sec. …yet you still whine like a baby. Your hubby is a SAINT to put up with you all these years, I commend him!

  2. Some Yahoo
    Some Yahoo 22 September, 2015, 16:13

    Honestly, the Tea Party movement makes more sense to me than anything coming out of Sacramento. So hanging that label on it is a PLUS for me.

    The only way I support a pension fund for ANYONE is if it supports itself with no taxpayer funding. My pension got sacked in 2008, and I can’t put anything in it now, so why should public employees (theoretically my ‘servants’) get the cadillac plans for life and the taxpayers can just keep ponying up more and more forever, thank you very much.

    No. Sorry. The public sector unions need to participate in the crash like the rest of us.

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    • Teddy
      Teddy 22 September, 2015, 17:40

      Your servants should get the plan you give them. Period.
      In a rep democracy like ours these things are approved by you the voter who elects the leaders who hire the employees and determine compensation. The issue is now– will you go back on your word and not pay folks for promises you already made for work already done often some 30 years later— the tea baggers have no honor— the tea baggers who support welching on contracts are just a sad commentary on where some have hi jacked conservatism. This isn’t a close call and thankfully we live in a lland with a rule of law instead of rule by crackpot whims…….here endeth the lesson.

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    • SeeSee
      SeeSee 24 September, 2015, 00:32

      Everyone participated in the crash. We are all “us”. Get used to it.

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  3. spurwing Plover
    spurwing Plover 23 September, 2015, 07:30

    Let me se Worms,Snakes,Rats,Trial Lawyers,Demayo & Reed and other lower lifeforms in the universe

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  4. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 23 September, 2015, 13:06

    Just PUT IT ON the ballot, let the chips fall where they fall. Use Harris’ summary as a BADGE of HONOR to shut down these trough feeders.

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    • SeeSaw
      SeeSaw 24 September, 2015, 00:24

      Don’t you know–they need two million dollars to put it on the ballet and 25 million run the election campaign. Have you made your donation yet?

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      • Rex the Wonder Dog!
        Rex the Wonder Dog! 24 September, 2015, 10:30

        They do not need $2 million, or $25 million, who tells you these lies?

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        • SeeSaw
          SeeSaw 24 September, 2015, 13:14

          You obviously don’t read the politics sections. I can’t make up things as I go along, like you do–so I am dependent on published material–not mishmash coming out of a three-year-old’s head.

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  5. Spurwing Plover
    Spurwing Plover 23 September, 2015, 16:27

    When all of the rest of California below the State of Jefferson is returned to mexico beuase of traitors and scumbags like Moonbeam Brown and and Obama as well as the mexican dictator who ever they’ll be

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    • SeeSaw
      SeeSaw 24 September, 2015, 00:28

      Governor Brown and President Obama were elected by the people of this state and country! Show some respect! There will never be a state of Jefferson in northern CA!

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      • Bill Gore
        Bill Gore 24 September, 2015, 08:37

        The State of Jefferson will be a great buffer to keep all the fake boobs, white escalades and bad nosejobs out of the lush WET beautiful Pacific Northwest.

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