Katy Grimes dissects Prop. 31

Katy Grimes dissects Prop. 31

Oct. 16, 2012

By Brian Calle

CalWatchDog.com’s Capitol reporter, Katy Grimes, describes what’s really going on with Proposition 31, a budget initiative.

 

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  1. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 16 October, 2012, 14:50

    Some of 31 sounds real good to me………………..sorry Katy.

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  2. Wayne Lusvardi
    Wayne Lusvardi 16 October, 2012, 15:03

    Fabulous coverage of Prop 31’s pitfalls.

    Sure Prop 31 sounds good. It was meant to seduce voters to approve 2-year state budget cycles, requiring the legislature to identity funding sources for any bills of $25 million or more, would give the governor veto power, and would require all state agencies to implement performance budgeting. But voter approval and a amendment to the state constitution are not needed for any of these reforms. They can be done today without Prop. 31. These are just seductions for conservative voters who believe that such reforms will cut down on government waste. They are all gingerbread to get the voters to adopt Strategic Action Plan Committees which would be an additional layer of unelected government that would ruin representative government in California.

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  3. Bob
    Bob 16 October, 2012, 19:43

    Old Nicholas Berggruen looks just like a panhandler who was harassing me the other day.

    Anyhoo, I’m with Wayne and Katy on this one. I mean, give me a break and just use some come sense. When was the last time wealthy financiers and out of work politicians sponsored a ballot iniative that was good for us little people?

    But I think this will wind up passing and we are all going to regret it.

    This election could be a real nightmare. Imagine if this and 30 or 38 passess and the DemoNcrats get a two-thirds majority in the legislature.

    If that happens it’s Katy (Grimes) bar the door for next year, especially with cap-n-tax kicking in!

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  4. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 16 October, 2012, 21:22

    Imagine if this and 30 or 38 passess and ..
    ===
    You give the scammers too much credit, and the voters not enough credit. This is the state that passed the landmark Proposition 13, 13 changed the face of property tax forever. We rejected this same tax “extension” 2 years ago, Props 1a-1g. We will again.

    Prop 30 will lose by at least 5 points.

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  5. Bob
    Bob 16 October, 2012, 23:00

    I have very little confidence in the people of Caulifornia (as Ahnode sez), Mr. Wonder Dog.

    But I sincerely (even desperately) hope you are right, and I hope Katy Grimes will not need to bar the door. 🙂 (OK, that was just bad.)

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  6. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 17 October, 2012, 00:21

    Don’t sell the voters short this time. The pension issue has gone nuclear, and Munger is destroying Clown’s Prop 30 as a bait and switch, and voters know mots of that 30 money will go to shore up the million dollar pensions, and they will not vote for it b/c of that.

    Then remember that Props 1a-1g 2 years ago got creamed at the ballot box, and this is just a rehash of those tax extensions.

    I am very confident that Prop 30 will fail, by at least 5 points.

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  7. CalWatchdog
    CalWatchdog Author 17 October, 2012, 07:04

    Remember that the voters have voted down the last seven or eight attempts to increase taxes. While I believe that we will see more shenanigans this election, voters just don’t seem to have any tolerance for tax increases, or schemes like Prop. 31. There are too many ballot initiatives this time with billionaires behind them. That alone should make voters suspicious.

    Katy (bar the door)

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  8. Ted Steele, The Decider
    Ted Steele, The Decider 17 October, 2012, 07:57

    I think Californians are smarter than most CWD posters and bloggers and will pass 30, not pass 38 and not pass 31. If 30 passes, the poodle will honestly and fairly be 1 for 14 ™ in his predictions. That’s not so bad for a guy with a severe personality disorder, and no real education or common sense. Best of luck little buddy!

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  9. Queeg
    Queeg 17 October, 2012, 08:12

    Teddy nail it!

    He is the truth…the knowledge…the balance on CWD.

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  10. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 17 October, 2012, 08:59

    If 30 passes I will be 155-0 and Teddy will be 0-210 😉

    Teddy, don’t you think it’s time to stop the ad hominem attacks, I mean I already live inside your pea sized brain 24/7, and your medication is not working, you have to want to stop thinking about me. I can’t do this for you Lil one 😉

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  11. Queeg
    Queeg 17 October, 2012, 09:20

    There will be no peace!

    -Atilla the Hun

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  12. Ted Steele, The Decider
    Ted Steele, The Decider 17 October, 2012, 10:36

    Poodle– Ad Hom’s—you’re going top stop? Nice ! When exactly?

    0 for 13 ™ as of 10-12 !

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  13. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 17 October, 2012, 11:38

    What does “top stop” mean 😉

    166-0 BABY!

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  14. Bill - San Jose
    Bill - San Jose 17 October, 2012, 15:55

    I would be suspicious of anything given to a committee in Sacto. Why? Because oversight is a mass failure for Sacto already so letting a group of whoevers decide financial course for our state or in particular, at a local level, is counterproductive to saving money.

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  15. Bob
    Bob 17 October, 2012, 16:15

    Katy, I sure hope you and the Wonder Dog are right.

    But it seems to me that since the DemoNcrats have a permanent majority in this state they can afford to keep throwing all kinds of nonsense at us and too much of it eventually sticks.

    It seems that the system has to completely fall apart before the voters will make lasting change.

    But if the Demoncrats get their two-thirds majority the process of the system falling apart will accelerate.

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  16. Ted Steele, The Decider
    Ted Steele, The Decider 17 October, 2012, 16:24

    Poodle– What I meant was— Great! The Ad Homs are going to stop? When will you stop them? Don’t you think we should stop our mutual pointless drivel and let the normal adults who run this website have it back?

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  17. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 17 October, 2012, 18:32

    I agree….CWD deserves respectful diverse discourse! I’ll ask Queeg to settle down…..he’s strange and unpredictible…..worth a try!

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  18. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 17 October, 2012, 23:30

    If anyone recalls 3 years ago, the polls CLAIMED the “temporary tax”…..”extensions” were going to pass. That claim, by various “pollsters” was going on right up until the votes were counted and they ALL LOST!

    Electoral results by county

    Proposition 1A[4]

    Choice

    Votes

    Percentage

    No Votes
    3,152,141
    65.39%

    Yes
    1,668,216
    34.61%

    Valid votes
    4,820,357
    98.94%

    Total votes
    4,871,945
    100.00%

    Voter turnout

    28.40%

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_1A_(2009)

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  19. Ted Steele, The Decider
    Ted Steele, The Decider 18 October, 2012, 06:22

    cut and paste 1st place!

    0 for 13 ™ praying to be 1 for 14 ™ !

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  20. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 18 October, 2012, 10:35

    Prop 1a, LOST by 2-1 TEDDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I predict 30 will lose by similar numbers.

    171-0 BABY!

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  21. Ted Steele, The Decider
    Ted Steele, The Decider 18 October, 2012, 12:35

    cut and paste 1st place!
    0 for 13 ™ praying to be 1 for 14 ™ !

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  22. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 18 October, 2012, 12:47

    179-0, hoping for 182-0 nov 6 😉

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  23. Ted Steele, The Decider
    Ted Steele, The Decider 18 October, 2012, 14:00

    cut and paste 1st place!
    0 for 13 ™ praying to be 1 for 14 ™ !

    should we continue to waste the adults space litl buddy?

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