Why GOP can’t ‘count’ on immigration

Why GOP can’t ‘count’ on immigration

McCainFeb. 20, 2013

By John Seiler

Tony Quinn gets things partly right when he writes in a Fox & Hounds article, “Are Republicans Finally Learning to Count?:

“But now some Republicans at last want to face that reality and make some changes.  I call them the Republicans Who Can Count.

“The Republicans Who Can’t Count were on full display in 2012. Presidential nominee Mitt Romney ran the most vitriolic anti-immigrant campaign in the primaries; Asian and Latino turnout and straight ticket Democratic voting in the general election was the highest in history. Some GOP legislators in battleground states thought the way to victory was to repress minority voting; African Americans turned out in states like Ohio and Florida at historical records.  GOP pollsters modeled a voter turnout that did not exist and ended up looking like fools on election day when a flood of Democrats showed up and dealt their candidates defeat after defeat.

“Now the Republicans who can count are moving to take over the party with a mission to stop alienating the fastest growing parts of the American electorate, and also to stop running fringe candidates whose only goal seems to be to turn off moderate voters.”

It’s true the GOP is having problems attracting Latino voters. It’s likely to continue to do so no matter what it does. Voting patterns generally are locked in for families and ethnic groups for generations. It’s hard to change them.

And he ignores an even bigger constituency: The Republican “base” that wants not to “reform” immigration, but to end it entirely. If they’re alienated, then the GOP can’t win, either.

The immigration restriction “base” for the GOP is like public-employee unions are for the Democrats in California. They’re the strongest faction. The only way to get around them is to lie to them.


Hence, Sen. John McCain co-sponsored the McCain-Kennedy immigration amnesty in 2005. He downplayed that in his 2008 presidential run. After he was wiped out by Obama that November, then re-elected to the U.S. Senate in 2010, he went back to pushing amnesty.

Just Tuesday, an “angry crowd” confronted McCain over his pro-amnesty agenda:

“Sen. John McCain defended his proposed immigration overhaul to an angry crowd in suburban Phoenix….

“McCain hosted two town hall meetings in Arizona, during which he defended his immigration plan to upset residents concerned about border security….

“During a heated town hall gathering in the Phoenix suburb of Sun Lakes, McCain said the border near Yuma is largely secure, but he said smugglers are using the border near Tucson to pump drugs into Phoenix. He said immigration reform should be contingent on better border security that must rely largely on technology able to detect border crossings.

“McCain said a tamper-proof Social Security card would help combat identity fraud, and noted any path to citizenship must require immigrants to learn English, cover back taxes and pay fines for breaking immigration laws.

“‘There are 11 million people living here illegally,’ he said. “We are not going to get enough buses to deport them.”

“Some audience members shouted out their disapproval.

“One man yelled that only guns would discourage illegal immigration. Another man complained that illegal immigrants should never be able to become citizens or vote. A third man said illegal immigrants were illiterate invaders who wanted free government benefits.

“McCain urged compassion. ‘We are a Judeo-Christian nation,’ he said. McCain’s other town hall meeting took place in Green Valley, south of Tucson.”

That’s the Republican “base,” and it’s not going away. I’m sure the “base” also was amused at getting a Sunday School lesson on “Judeo-Christian” morality for someone who, as noted, hid his position on amnesty during his 2008 campaign and his 2010 Senate re-election campaign. Oh, and he was part of the Keating Five banking scandal crooks.

Can’t win scenario

So, Republicans can’t win with the immigration restriction “base,” and can’t win without ’em. At about half the party’s strength, this “base” is far greater than any potential new Latino votes that might be garnered by embracing amnesty.

McCain himself got a scare. In 2004, McCain had no primary opponent. But in his 2010 Senate primary, challenger J.D. Hayworth grabbed 32 percent of the vote largely by pointing out McCain’s pro-amnesty record (see YouTube below). In pro-military Arizona, war hero McCain is Senator-for-Life. But a 32 percent challenge is serious.

Quinn also should have pointed out, as I often have, that since Reagan left, the GOP has run one dud candidate after another for president beginning in 1988: the Bushes, Dole, McCain and Romney. And their campaigns have been risible. Meg Whitman ran a better campaign than Romney.

The GOP’s only chance is for an overall federal and state government default to be blamed on the Democrats. Which is coming.


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  1. stevefromsacto
    stevefromsacto 20 February, 2013, 10:55

    “One man yelled that only guns would discourage illegal immigration. Another man complained that illegal immigrants should never be able to become citizens or vote. A third man said illegal immigrants were illiterate invaders who wanted free government benefits.”

    And this is the kind of mentality you want the Republican Party to cater to, John? God help the party…and the country…if that comes to pass. Fortunately, many Republicans now understand what this racist minority has cost the party, both morally and politically.

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    • CalWatchdog
      CalWatchdog Author 20 February, 2013, 11:09

      StevefromSacto: Please read more carefully. I didn’t say I wanted the Republican Party to “cater to” that mentality, which I obviously do not. I was just pointing out what is going on. Personally, I wish the Republican Party would dissolve itself. It has long outlived what little usefulness it had.

      — John Seiler

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  2. jimmydeeoc
    jimmydeeoc 20 February, 2013, 14:05

    You have every right to be “outraged” by such overt “racism” Stevie……

    Illegals are mostly semi-literate. In Spanish.

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  3. Donkey
    Donkey 20 February, 2013, 16:38

    The majority of current Latinos and Asians are going to vote for the party of free money and open borders. The same politics were played out in every empire on Earth. There will be a point in our history when the nation will cease to be recognized as the United States, this is how history works, and it will never change. 🙂

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  4. RT
    RT 20 February, 2013, 16:44

    After being a “Republican” for most of my life, last year I left the party and became an Independent. I no longer could tell where the Republicans stood on issues. With the media and the Democrats against them, the Republicans folded up like a cheap lawn chair.
    The Republicans need to figure out where they stand on issues and then actually take a stand. Immigration reform is one of many issues they need to figure out. Once they do, they can no longer afford to be timid. They must stand for something.

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  5. eck
    eck 20 February, 2013, 17:41

    stevefromsacto: It’s you lefties that just can’t grasp the obvious that being against illegal immigration has nothing to do with racism. Guys like you are the racists – everything is seen through that filter.

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  6. jason hodge
    jason hodge 21 February, 2013, 00:36

    steve is so worried about “racism”,yet cares little that whites are being driven to extinction in their own homeland.he cares more about the foreign invader coming to feed off of us.mexico sure finds a way to harshly deal with illegal aliens coming from its southern border,and theres not a peep from steve.so why cant we,why is it”racism”that whites want to preserve their country,heritage and culture?the hispanics that come here are beyond backward,they have to be shown workplace videos on how to put soiled toilet tissue in the commode and not the trash can.is this the group that mccain claims will pay our social security? by the way,we already payed our own way and then some,the same liberal government types like mccain have raided our social security trust fund etc.crook!

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  7. Hondo
    Hondo 21 February, 2013, 08:08

    It was Bush #2 who brought in the most illegals. The numbers have dropped in Obama’s term. It was Rove who trashed conservatives who demanded the border be secure. He and Bush#2 called conservatives raciest’s and ‘vigilantes’. As bad as Obama is on this subject, Bush may have destroyed the republican party by importing as many illegals into this country as he could, thinking they would vote Republican. They never voted for him in plurality, and have voting in droves for the Santa Claus dems ever since. Because of the hispanic demographics caused by Bushes massive importation of illegals, the republicans are very nearly un-electable nation wide.
    Thanks Carl Rove.

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  8. us citizen
    us citizen 21 February, 2013, 13:50

    ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL. It has NOTHING to do with race.

    If you sneak across a border or over stay a visa, you are leaching off of Americans. You use our hospitals as doctor offices so you dont have to pay, you use water and electricity that are in scarcity, you cause more traffic, you dumb down our schools, you bring in third world practices, you bring in diseases, you cant get a job, so you go on welfare. You use other people’s identities. You LIE, CHEAT and commit crimes!!! You ARE a criminal. What is so damned hard to understand about this? Then you crap out kids that WE have to end up taking care of.

    And then the govt says…………..ahhhh they’re just here to feed their families. BULL SHIT. They know when they step foot in this country illegally that they have committed a crime. Let them change their own freakin country!!! if they dont like it.

    They want US to cater to their language. They want things written in whatever language they speak. They dont learn English. They want their holidays here. They are NOT assimilating into our culture. They want US to change to theirs.

    I AM SICK OF THIS and all you idiots out there cow towing to this are exactly that………idiots. You cant see that we are being INVADED.

    Am I mad…….you betcha!!! Since when does a special group of people get away with a whole boat load of illegal activities and then get rewarded for it by not being prosecuted or sent home? This is OUTRAGEOUS.

    And YOU ALL are paying for all of this with either shortages or higher prices due to supply and demand. And because they dump their bills on the state and your taxes have to go toward paying for this.

    Wise UP People!!!! Wise UP!

    I say the Repubs need to stand up and be heard on this and shout it from the roof tops until EVERYONE learns what a disaster this is creating, because the dems sure wont.

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