Video: How much is a good teacher worth?

Video: How much is a good teacher worth?

CalWatchdog.com’s Brian Calle talks to Superintendent Liz Fagen about the three most important factors that have gone into reforming the Douglas County School District in Colorado.

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  1. Carla Johnson
    Carla Johnson 19 April, 2014, 11:31

    Teachers are not commodities. Why don’t we pay administrators like her on the supply/demand scale too, and not give her merit pay for any of her advanced degrees and see how she likes it. I’d say the demand for an administrator like Liz Fagan is far less than for a PE teacher with a masters degree.

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  2. Carla Johnson
    Carla Johnson 19 April, 2014, 11:39

    This administrator, Liz Fagan, is highly upsetting. No teacher deserves to be treated like a commodity. Most importantly, no student deserves to be taught be a teacher who is being treated like a commodity.

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  3. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 19 April, 2014, 18:10

    I wonder what the pay is in Douglas county.

    It is years of service plus post graduate units, not “degrees”.

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  4. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 19 April, 2014, 18:15

    48K APPLICATIONS!!! For how many openings?? Must be tremendous competition.

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  5. Ted O'Steele, CEO
    Ted O'Steele, CEO 19 April, 2014, 20:58

    doomers hate teachers.

    sad

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  6. Swampland
    Swampland 20 April, 2014, 21:24

    Give me a break! The reason there were 48k applications is because the number of teachers leaving DCSD is so high. Of the people we interviewed for jobs at our school, almost none of them were highly qualified. As a matter of fact, most of them were AWFUL!!! Fagen spews rhetoric and has no clue what she’s actually talking about. She used the same sound byte about the “happy teachers” at both the beginning and end of this segment. Also, what she says about market pay makes no sense. If there are 300 applicants for your job that makes you 1 in 300. Whereas, if there are 2 applicants for your job, that makes you 1 in 2. Who’s more qualified? This is all about manufacturing a crisis in public education so that rich people can get a tax kickback to send their kids to private schools. GET EDUCATED. Liz Fagen makes 300k a year. This is NOT market-based pay and my kids’ education has gone nowhere but DOWNHILL since she and this board came along. The people who voted them in don’t even have kids in the public schools here. The parents are LIVID.

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  7. LOLing
    LOLing 21 April, 2014, 15:14

    HA HA HA HA! This incredibly unqualified person can not open her mouth without spewing lies and garbage. She says having a higher status degree doesn’t make you a better teacher (an excuse not to pay them) but ask her why she makes $300 grand a year……”Well, I have a PHd!” Nothing but hypocritical rhetoric, lies and deceit. Get your act together DC, and get rid of this board and puppet before your kids, property values, and way of life are destroyed by a handful of people who have done nothing positive yet.

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  8. Megan
    Megan 22 April, 2014, 17:30

    As a parent in DCSD I can tell you that our teachers are not happy with the reforms that have been happening in our school district. Our talented teachers are fleeing for other districts. Families are starting to look into moving to other districts. By all means if you would like to see your school district fail and your home prices to plummet then these reform ideas are perfect for your school district.

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  9. Outstanding Teacher
    Outstanding Teacher 22 April, 2014, 17:31

    This is what they say…..but no one can be highly effective without jumping through all kinds of hoops and if your principal says you are highly effective then you have to go before a panel and PROVE it. There is a hand picked group of teachers that agree with this but the overall majority of teachers and parents do NOT AGREE WITH THE DIRECTION of this BOE or this Superintendent. Also…..this Superintendent and the BOE broke the Fair Campaigne Act and elected the board (that always votes 7-0) because of big money from outside of DCSD. World Class my _SS. They have taken a fantastic school district and chased away so much talent that it is very scary.

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  10. Unhappyparent
    Unhappyparent 23 April, 2014, 19:03

    If there are so many other places interested in you and your
    ‘Great’ ideas, please leave.

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  11. Lies
    Lies 23 April, 2014, 19:21

    This woman cannot speak without lying and telling half truths. Yes, we have pay bands based “market value.” Fagen neglected to mention that there are caps on the bands, and once you hit the cap you will NEVER receive another raise during your career unless you achieve highly effective status on the evaluation for teachers. Frankly, being Highly Effective is essentially impossible if you plan on actually teaching students and having any kind of life outside of your job. Listen carefully to what she says: the teachers she has good relationships with are thrilled with the pay structure. That would be a very small group! Teachers are not afraid of accountability or showing what they can do but this system is unfair and ridiculous! When neighboring school districts are paying thousands of dollars more to their teachers you are not going to be attracting the best and brightest for long. 48,000 applications is an increase because there is an increase in the number of excellent teachers getting the hell out of Douglas County.

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  12. Julie
    Julie 23 April, 2014, 20:21

    Please, please, please don’t listen to this woman. Some of what she says sounds good, but it is not working in practice. Good teachers are not staying in Douglas County. We are having the best and most excellent teachers leaving in droves to go to neighboring school districts and we are replacing them with inexperienced younger teachers. Morale is so very low in the Douglas County Schools and we have WAY too much testing going on. Don’t hire people, especially teachers, and then assume they aren’t effective unless they prove it. I’d rather the teachers concentrate on my children and their education that on documenting the things that they do and looking for ways to make themselves look better. Reform in the Douglas County Schools is a tragedy!

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  13. Unhappy teacher
    Unhappy teacher 28 April, 2014, 20:54

    So, does professional pay mean the lowest pay in the Denver Metro Region? This woman ruined the Tucson school district then came to Douglas Co Colorado to ruin us. She and the crazy Reformer Board in Dougco have ruined the best school district around! If she was paid on her “market value” (makes me feel like a pig) — she wouldn’t be the highest paid super around. By the way, she REFUSED to be on a Pay for Performance contract herself. “The teachers that I have good relationships with…” — that would be .5% of the teachers in Dougco. She is infuriating.

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