You’re far more likely to be impoverished in CA than Mississippi

You’re far more likely to be impoverished in CA than Mississippi

povertycaFor decades, economists have complained about the stupidity of the Census Bureau’s annual report on poverty in the U.S. because it didn’t include cost of living in its rankings of the 50 states. An example of the old stats can be seen at right. Hilariously enough, the graphic based on the 2010 census shows less than 11 percent poverty in the Bay Area, Ventura County and Orange County.

But beginning in fall 2012, the bureau finally began providing such analysis in what it called a “supplemental” poverty analysis. In that report, the one that came out in 2013 and the one that came out last week, California had by a wide margin the highest poverty rate of any state. Here’s part of Dan Walters’ short take on it:

California continues to have – by far – the nation’s highest level of poverty under an alternative method devised by the Census Bureau that takes into account both broader measures of income and the cost of living.

Nearly a quarter of the state’s 38 million residents (8.9 million) live in poverty, a new Census Bureau report says, a level virtually unchanged since the agency first began reporting on the method’s effects.

Under the traditional method of gauging poverty, adopted a half-century ago, California’s rate is 16 percent (6.1 million residents), somewhat above the national rate of 14.9 percent but by no means the highest. That dubious honor goes to New Mexico at 21.5 percent.

But under the alternative method, California rises to the top at 23.4 percent while New Mexico drops to 16 percent and other states decline to as low as 8.7 percent in Iowa.

The supplemental poverty calculations put Mississippi’s poverty rate at 15.3 percent. So someone who lives in California is 35 percent more likely to be impoverished than someone who lives in Mississippi.

Mississippi spurs deep concern — CA, not so much

Will the California media ever forcefully point this out — like, yunno, the folks who have written about Mississippi? Here’s an example of the oh-my-god-it’s-awful treatment that Mississippi gets for its poverty, which is small compared to California’s:

Many families in Mississippi, one of the states where ChildFund works, live below the poverty line, presenting obstacles to children achieving happy and fulfilling lives. In 2013, the federal poverty level for a family of five is a yearly income of $27,570. As of January 2011, about 31 percent of the children living in Mississippi were considered poor, and included in that number were 14 percent living in extreme poverty, according to the Children’s Defense Fund. This means Mississippi has the highest child poverty rate in the nation.

 By living in these conditions, children are more likely to face other challenges throughout their lives, such as neglect and abuse, as well as insufficient access to the education they need to succeed.

Although there are many factors that can contribute to child abuse and neglect, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services notes that many researchers feel there is a correlation between poverty and child mistreatment.Mississippi has historically seen both high poverty and child abuse rates.

In 2011, the Children’s Defense Fund reported that 7,883 Mississippi children were victims of abuse or neglect, which works out to a case of abuse or neglect every hour. Some children in Mississippi are unable to live with their biological parents for a variety of reasons. In 2011, about 3,320 children were in foster care, and about 50,130 grandparents across the state raised their grandchildren.

Children who are raised in poverty are also statistically less likely to finish high school than their peers, frequently because they are forced to get a full-time job, or they lack crucial support from their families. In Mississippi, about 64 percent of freshmen in high school will graduate, according to the Children’s Defense Fund.

And even students who graduate may not attain the skills they need to succeed in college or the work force. In the fourth grade, 78 percent of students in the state are unable to read or do math at grade level. By the eighth grade, 81 percent of students cannot read at grade level, while 85 percent lack the appropriate math skills, the Children’s Defense Fund reports.

Haven’t seen much downbeat stuff like this about life in Cali, have ya?

Just like the knuckleheads who cover baseball and mock Moneyball, news journalists resist new stats, even if they’re more insightful.

Great, just great.

6 p.m. update: fixed error spotted by reader JL. Thanks.

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  1. Desmond
    Desmond 19 October, 2014, 08:56

    Does have California have such high poverty because we subsidize it so heavily? In the school district where I live I see decent homes, not many apartments, lots of good cars. 53 percent of the kids overall get subsidized meals through the school. I suspect that many of those live in poverty classified households. To escape from it, is it like leaving the comfort of a nice job? The grass may be greener, but why take the risk? The job has become taking the goodies, and don t rock the boat.

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  2. LetitCollapse
    LetitCollapse 19 October, 2014, 09:56

    What the journalists refuse to tell you is that there is a direct correlation between the deterioriation of quality of life and education in California and the influx of illegal immigration. As illegal immigration increased – the poverty rate skyrocketed and the school system deteriorated by like amounts. Not only do we have more poverty in California than Mississippi – our K-12 school system academic performance has declined below theirs as well. So the journalists cry about the outcome but REFUSE to address the cause. When is the last time you saw a column by Dan Walters calling for the gov to seal the damn border and enforce our immigration laws? Did he protest when California approved the “Trust Act” or driver’s licenses for illegals? You don’t have to be a brain surgeon to connect the dots between illegal immigration in California and our poverty rate or the deterioration of our school system. Any knucklehead who’s lived here for awhile should be able to connect those dots. But the media seems oblivious to it. Even the conservative journalists. Which makes me believe they all silently promote it.

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    • S Moderation Douglas
      S Moderation Douglas 21 October, 2014, 11:16

      “What the journalists refuse to tell you is that there is a direct correlation between the deterioriation of quality of life and education in California and the influx of illegal immigration.”

      What the statisticians WILL tell you is that correlation is not causation.

      ……………….
      That’s one big reason Mitt Romney isn’t President Romney. Too damb dumb.

      “Romney: There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what.”

      ” Forty-seven percent of Americans pay no income tax. So our message of low taxes doesn’t connect.”

      Idiot. They’re not the SAME 47%. Polls show that 40% of the lowest income earners (who likely pay no income tax) are Romney supporters. And many of the 47% are seniors, who tend to vote Republican.

      Whether he made this up himself, or trusted some speechwriter, he’s flat wrong.
      …………..
      “Any knucklehead who’s lived here for awhile should be able to connect those dots.”

      “Knucklehead” LOL, You said it, not me!!!!

      Did you know?

      From 2000 to 2009, the per capita consumption of cheese in the US has a 94.7% “correlation” to the number of people who DIED by becoming tangled in their bedsheets?

      CONNECT THE DOTS!!!!

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      • LetitCollapse
        LetitCollapse 21 October, 2014, 13:49

        You hate the FACTS that I post. So you try to muddy the waters with your mockery and diversion. Anybody with half a fracken brain understands that when you import massive quanities of poverty from 3rd world nations that it’s going to INCREASE your poverty rate and DETERIORATE your school system. hah. I guess you are one of the few who still don’t get it. Whatever…… 😀

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  3. Queeg
    Queeg 19 October, 2014, 10:06

    Service businesses and their globalist owners…..the rich demand services….The workers exploited.

    This state a magnet for cheap low skill labor.

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    • LetitCollapse
      LetitCollapse 19 October, 2014, 10:22

      WTF are you talking about? The illegals have captured whatever is left of the manufacturing industry in California too! Not just the service industry. US citizens used to work the assembly lines to feed our families. All those jobs have gone to illegals or former illegals. A recent CIS study showed that nearly ALL the employment growth in America for the last 10 years has gone to legal or illegal immigrants. Virtually NONE of the employment growth has benefited native born Americans! And native Americans accounted for 2/3rd’s of our population growth!!! WAKE UP FOR GOD SAKES!! Don’t fear ISIS. FEAR WHAT IS COMING ACROSS OUR SOUTHERN BORDER AND STEALING YOUR JOBS AND RESOURCES! AND FEAR OUR GOVERNEMENT THAT REFUSES TO ENFORCE OUR LAWS!!! 🙁

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      • Donkey
        Donkey 20 October, 2014, 07:22

        It’s no use to inform a fool LIC, the RAGWUS feeders only enhance their control by using illegals as cover, and then calling all that question the R word. 🙂

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  4. LetitCollapse
    LetitCollapse 19 October, 2014, 10:15

    Why do you think California has 33% of the nation’s welfare recipients and only 12% of the nation’s population – and why do you think that percentage figure of the welfare recipients has exploded in the last 30 years? HELLO? Illegal immigration has EXPLODED in California is the last 30 years! The journalists hide the truth because the gov and the corporations are their meal tickets! You have to figure it out on your own, folks! Don’t look to the media for your answers! The purpose of the media is to confuse you. Use your God-given brain. Otherwise you will be forever lost!

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    • S Moderation Douglas
      S Moderation Douglas 21 October, 2014, 11:44

      ” 33% of the nation’s welfare recipients and only 12% of the nation’s population”

      Meh, 33 and 12 is more dramatic, but. Didn’t YOU calculate that California has “12% of the population and 19% of the nations welfare “cost”? My calculation (from US Census data) showed more like 12.8% of the nations cost. Still…..

      Now,……….IF………..”that percentage figure of the welfare recipients has exploded in the last 30 years” (we don’t know unless you show the data from 1984), can you really show how much of that is caused by illegal immigration? 100%? 80%? 47%?

      Maybe…..”the media” won’t tell us……..cause it ain’t so.

      ” When are you people doing to wake up and stop being so damned stupid???? “

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      • LetitCollapse
        LetitCollapse 21 October, 2014, 13:57

        35% of the K-12 students in California can’t speak english. In 1984 only 10% of the students couldn’t speak english. Over a 300% increase.

        So you agree that California spends a disproportionate 7% more in welfare costs than it’s population should account for? Well, at least we’re moving toward a meeting of the minds. Btw, that 7% represents MANY BILLIONS of taxdollars.

        Thanks for your support!

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        • S Moderation Douglas
          S Moderation Douglas 21 October, 2014, 18:40

          That was your calculation, not mine. Last time I looked, two different sources said that at least seven other states had higher per capita welfare costs than California. Not worth arguing. ALL the comparisons were based on three year old data anyway.

          Don’t see any imminent meeting of the minds. I’m already traumatized by the dog agreeing with me.

          Sorry, no links.

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  5. LetitCollapse
    LetitCollapse 19 October, 2014, 14:32

    You want to know why California’s poverty rate has flown off the charts? The media won’t tell you. But I will! Here it is:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB37TCDcZBg

    Now toss that into the mix with CADL’s for illegals and California’s “Trust Act” that forbids jailers from transferring illegals to the Feds for deportation after they’ve done their jail time for other crimes that supercede immigration or labor law violations….and what do you get??? MASSIVE RATES OF POVERTY! You ain’t seen nothing yet!!! It will only get worse. The government oligarchs and the ruling class don’t give a damn about the quality of life for common citizens which deteriorates with more poverty in California. Mexico just refused to let an American cruise ship enter it’s Cozumel port because it had ONE American on board who worked at the Dallas ebola hospital WHO WAS NOT EVEN INFECTED WITH THE DISEASE. HAH! The ship had to return to it’s Galveston, Tx. port because the mexicans wouldn’t allow it to dock!!! Yet the mexicans illegally send all their indigent disease ridden people across our border to infect our kids with TB, whooping cough, measles, mumps, enterovirus D68, etc… and think nothing of it!!!!
    When are you people doing to wake up and stop being so damned stupid????

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  6. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 19 October, 2014, 15:37

    Teddy….the end is close…….just the same way last time……stiffen up buddy……let it go.

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  7. T Mind of Ted Your God
    T Mind of Ted Your God 19 October, 2014, 17:00

    She does appear to be spinning into a doom vortex!

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  8. LetitCollapse
    LetitCollapse 19 October, 2014, 21:26

    The last time this Census Bureau annual report was released (2013) I did a FULL analysis for you that could not be found in ANY media report. I PROVED to you that the highest poverty rates were in the states along our southern mexican border. CA, AZ, NV, NM, TX. You folks should have the brains to connect the dots from there. I can lead you folks to the water hole – but I can’t make you drink!!!

    About 1 of every 4 Californians live in poverty. We have 33% of the nation’s welfare population and only 12% of the nation’s population. California’s welfare population makes an equivalent of over $17/hr. (if you calculate in all their benefits) for sitting around all day and watching soaps. Why flip burgers all day for $10/hr when you can sit on your butt and make over $17/hr? If you are dirt poor, why wouldn’t you come to California? I am not making this stuff up! A doomer makes crap up! I am simply giving you the facts. Wait until the State starts reducing your pension benefits to take care of all the indigents pouring into California! You’ll be the King of Doom! The difference between you and me is that I can see the train coming down the tracks. You can’t. You’re blinded by your own arrogance and stupidity! Two branches that grow from the same tree! 🙂

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    • Rex the Wonder Dog!
      Rex the Wonder Dog! 20 October, 2014, 14:24

      About 1 of every 4 Californians live in poverty.
      ==
      No, it is actually 35% in CA, more than 1 in 3.

      But leaving off the fact that 48% of the nations jobs are minimum wage, or near minimum wage, MOST of these jobs with NO benefits or PAID VACATION (that one is for you Dougie 🙂 ), which is the true cause of such poverty, causes a misinterpretation of the welfare state IMO.

      If decent jobs were out there, not the 1 in 2 minimum wage jobs this country offers, people would MUCH more prefer to work and earn their way.

      In 1960 GM was the largest employer in the world and (hard to believe) Detroit had the highest per capita income in the nation and the world.

      Today Wal-Mart is the world’s largest employer and Detroit is BK.

      (BTW if you take OUT the artificial, monopolistic wages and benefits environment of government employees, 25% of the work force, the 48% stat goes up to 70%… but then more money would be left over for the private sector to GROW and that 70% stat would likely go down below the current 48%…just IMHO)

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      • Richard Rider
        Richard Rider 20 October, 2014, 15:26

        Rex, you assert the the BLS figure (almost 25% of Californians live in poverty) is wrong , and instead claim without a source that it’s 35%. Any basis for that number? A URL source is always welcome.

        You go on to claim that “48% of the nation’s jobs are minimum wage, or near minimum wage.” Do you have a source for that figure?

        Everything I see indicates that the median wage in the U.S. is significantly higher. For instance: Using one government source, I find that the median U.S. hourly wage is $16.87. Perhaps your assertion is based on a broad interpretation of what “near minimum wage” constitutes.
        http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes_nat.htm

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        • LetitCollapse
          LetitCollapse 20 October, 2014, 18:28

          “I find that the median U.S. hourly wage is $16.87.”

          Heck, Richard, the equivalent wage for someone on welfare benefits in California is about a dollar an hour higher than the US median hourly wage! Do you see something wrong with that? California has 33% of the nation’s welfare recipients and only 12% of the nation’s population! Does that surprise you with the generous benefits they get and AREN’T EVEN REQUIRED TO WORK TO EARN IT???
          Any way you slice it, California is run like a friggin’ clown house. No rhyme. No reason. A house of cards just waiting to collapse. Nobody seems to give a damn. Fine by me! Bring it on!!! 😀

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      • LetitCollapse
        LetitCollapse 20 October, 2014, 16:56

        Thanks for your input rex. Good to have you back!

        And when the Mexican President visited Sacramento and Jerry Clown introduced him to the legislators as a welcoming party – Jerry looked at some immigrants who happened to be in the room and said “It doesn’t matter whether you are in the United States legally or illegally, you are all welcome in California”. That sentence should be grounds for impeachment. California can’t even take care of it’s own citizens and Clownboy is inviting the world’s poor to break into California to steal our jobs and our resources. Yet NONE of the legislators, democrat OR REPUBLICAN condemned Clown for violating his oath of office, namely to uphold the law and to defend the Constitution. The entire damned system is rigged. Top to bottom! Democrats AND REPUBLICANS!!! Until a third party candidate like Ross Perot is able to get on the stage during election season and get elected to high office – this State and nation are DOOMED!!!

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    • S Moderation Douglas
      S Moderation Douglas 21 October, 2014, 10:06

      “I did a FULL analysis for you”

      You still funny!!!

      I can’t tell if you’re channeling Michael Savage or Argus Hamilton.

      “You folks should have the brains to connect the dots from there.”

      You can’t make this stuff up.

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  9. LetitCollapse
    LetitCollapse 19 October, 2014, 22:02

    Breitbart reports that Obola is already preparing work authorization cards for the multi-millions of illegals that he plans to give amnesty to by executive order shortly after the Nov elections. lol. So now the forgiven criminals will be authorized to work while more indigent illegals sneak cross the porous border to steal their jobs, thus putting them on public assistance. lol. This is truly just like living in a Mel Brooks movie. I have never seen so much idiocy in such a short time frame in my entire life. It’s like a willful planned self-destruction. In another 10 years the poverty rate in California will be 50%. Mark my words!

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  10. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 19 October, 2014, 22:21

    Teddy the Sage of CWD,

    Can you believe it….he talks to himself…. Post after post….Ugh!

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  11. S Moderation Douglas
    S Moderation Douglas 19 October, 2014, 22:27

    ” California’s welfare population makes an equivalent of over $17/hr. (if you calculate in all their benefits) for sitting around all day and watching soaps.”

    Number one, $17/hr. (if you EXAGGERATE all their benefits)

    In other words, Bee Ess.

    Number two, MOST of those drawing some type of assistance are working poor, not watching soaps.

    You ARE making this stuff up.

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    • LetitCollapse
      LetitCollapse 19 October, 2014, 23:12

      SMD. the study has already been completed ranking all 50 states using government stats. the study calculated the equivlent wage for those collecting welfare benefits in each individual state. California’s equivalent wage was over $17/hr. If you don’t believe me, google it. If you can’t find it I’d be happy to link it for your convenience.
      California law makes it clear that those able bodied recipients collecting welfare are not required to work. It is one of the few states that defies Clinton’s ‘welfare to work’ legislation. Look it up! So you’re wrong on both counts! 😉

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      • SeeSaw
        SeeSaw 20 October, 2014, 19:54

        That’s about $2200/mo. It was my understanding years ago that the only welfare available in CA was for dependent children. So, I don’t think one welfare recipient gets that amount of assistance–he/she probably has several dependent children. I have never known anyone on welfare who wanted to be in those circumstances. And, these undocumented immigrants you complain about are not eligible for welfare–most of them are out mowing lawns, cleaning houses, and waiting tables. The immigrants did destroy the careers of many blue collar workers but the employers are to blame there–they couldn’t have worked for employers who would not hire them–in accordance with the law.

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        • LetitCollapse
          LetitCollapse 21 October, 2014, 14:02

          ” I have never known anyone on welfare who wanted to be in those circumstances”

          I assume you’ve lived a sheltered life.

          “And, these undocumented immigrants you complain about are not eligible for welfare”

          Total baloney. If a 3rd world pregnant indigent female sneaks across the border illegally and drops her kid in an US hospital she gets free housing, free food, free medical care, free education and free spending money. You should know that.
          And identity theft in America is widespread. Anyone can buy fake ID on the streetcorner of East LA for $50. And with it you can join the welfare rolls. This is common knowledge. You should get out more.

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      • S Moderation Douglas
        S Moderation Douglas 21 October, 2014, 12:46

        It’s not really a “study”.

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    • LetitCollapse
      LetitCollapse 19 October, 2014, 23:15

      Oh, and SMD, I noticed that you didn’t argue against my point that illegal immigration is a direct cause of California being the poverty king of the United States. So I assume you concur with my position. Thanks for your support! 😀

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    • Rex the Wonder Dog!
      Rex the Wonder Dog! 20 October, 2014, 14:38

      Number two, MOST of those drawing some type of assistance are working poor, not watching soaps.
      ==

      Holy BatSh*t, the moons have aligned, up is down, black is white, dogs and kats living together; me and Dougie agree- a first!

      Most Americans, IMHO, would much rather have a decent job and pay their way then collect government assistance. The fact is all the manufacturing jobs, the backbone of the middle class and America, have been shipped offshore. Or to Mexico. or anywhere besides America. The cause is horrible trade policy by ALL the Presidents since Ronnie Raygun; Thank you Ronnie for running up twin deficits-trade and budget and taking us from the largest creditor nation in the world to the largest debtor nation in the world, any positive from your presidency is counter balanced by these twin deficit facts. Thank You Bushie the First for raising taxes on the poor and middle class. Thank you Bill Clinton for NAFTA and creating a huge trade deficit with Mexico, before NAFTA America had one of the FEW trade surpluses with another country. Thank you Bushie the Second for spending TRILLIONS on a war that would “pay for itself”. Thank you Bushie the Second for bailing out Billionaires, AIG, GM, Goldman Sachs and every state in the unions with TARP- all should have be allowed to go BK and better management to come in, and the states would have had to balance their budgets without running the nations credit card. Thank you Obama for finishing TARP and not prosecuting a single Wall Street executive, at least Raygun prosecuted over 1,000 S&L executives in the 1990’s under the guidance of Federal Prosecutor Bill Black, and the S&L meltdown was 1/70th the size of the Great Recession.

      Rant over.

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        LetitCollapse 20 October, 2014, 17:06

        Offshoring causes damage to the country, no doubt. But we have our own underclass in America and their jobs are being stolen by illegals and nothing is being done to stop it!!! In fact, the gov pigs are ENCOURAGING indigent illegals to crash our borders and steal those jobs. We give them FREE medical care and FREE education and driver’s licenses as incentives to come here – and on top of that the gov REFUSES to enforce our labor laws and allows illegals to work here without authorization. The gov ALLOWS them to work off the books!!! When’s the last time you heard of the cops raiding a construction site and arresting all the illegals and their boss??? This puts millions of Americans out of work!!! The ruling class – DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS have turned this country into a damned banana republic – where the only laws that get enforced are laws that target the American citizen middle class and poor!!! If you are an illegal foreigner in California even if you commit burglary or car theft you won’t get deported under the “Trust Act”. No other nation operates like that, Rex. NO OTHER NATION IS THAT DAMNED STUPID!!!! 🙁

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      • S Moderation Douglas
        S Moderation Douglas 20 October, 2014, 18:20

        “me and Dougie agree- a first!”

        Hmmm, I better go back and rethink this. I might have made a wrong turn somewhere.

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        • Rex the Wonder Dog!
          Rex the Wonder Dog! 21 October, 2014, 10:17

          Nope, Rex has caused Dougie to SEE THE LIGHT, the truth unblemished by the public unions rose colored glasses…..

          You’re welcome 🙂

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  12. S Moderation Douglas
    S Moderation Douglas 20 October, 2014, 04:11

    You assume too much, as usual.

    No need for the link. I have read the hype. $17 an hour is if the recipient receives EVERY benefit available. SNAP, TANF, section 8 housing, Medicaid, etc. etc. etc.

    If you want to be helpful, you can verify how RARE that actually is. A Walmart worker with two kids qualifies for food stamps, but she ain’t getting $17 hour worth, and she’s not watching soaps, unless she just got off the graveyard shift.

    One of the clerks in our CalTRANS office qualified for housing assistance because she had two kids, a VERY low income, and a husband who died from cancer before he was thirty. But it wasn’t $17 an hour worth. She is Hispanic, if that fits your meme,but also third generation Californian.

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    • Donkey
      Donkey 20 October, 2014, 07:19

      S&MD as usual you are way off course. The subsidy they get for cable allows the recipient to use their Tivo to watch soaps anytime they like!! 🙂

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    • LetitCollapse
      LetitCollapse 20 October, 2014, 08:42

      “If you want to be helpful, you can verify how RARE that actually is.”

      You’re the one who’s contesting my argument. YOU verify it.

      “A Walmart worker with two kids qualifies for food stamps, but she ain’t getting $17 hour worth, and she’s not watching soaps, unless she just got off the graveyard shift.”

      The point being that she doesn’t have to work at Walmart. She can collect an entire smorgasboard of benefits, soup to nuts, and stay home with the kids all day long and live off the taxpayers. Besides, she would have to pay babysitters to take care of the kids and that would automatically offset most of her wage at Walmart.

      “But it wasn’t $17 an hour worth.”

      Prove it. I’ll believe the study before I believe you. 🙂

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    • LetitCollapse
      LetitCollapse 20 October, 2014, 08:49

      Oh, and SMD. Once again, thanks for supporting my basic premise under this blog that illegal immigration is the primary cause for California’s surge to the #1 ranking in poverty throughout the nation and for our #47 ranking in K-12 academic performance. Do you support more carrots for the illegals, like the “Trust Act” which basically gives them de-facto amnesty in California and driver’s licenses for illegals which makes them feel right at home and encourages even MORE to migrate illegally? Did you watch James O’Keefe video that I linked above which clearly shows our porous southern borders? Do you endorse all this nonsense, SMD? Do you advocate the self-destruction of the Republic? 🙂

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  13. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 20 October, 2014, 09:01

    Great…dead poor in the street. Doomers get their way. Read all about it.

    You doomers are unmerciful and uncaring..

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    • LetitCollapse
      LetitCollapse 20 October, 2014, 09:29

      How many indigent illegals do you house, feed, educate and provide free medical care for, nimrod? So why would you expect the rest of us to voluteer to do it?

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    LetitCollapse 20 October, 2014, 09:23

    I just read in the news that Obola’s White House has sent out an RFP (it’s online) requesting bids from companies to produce a maximum estimate of 34 million green cards and work authorization cards (9 million immediately up front, and a minimum of 4 million for the next 5 years)in preparation for his post Nov 4 election day executive order for amnesty. This traitor has his mind set on destroying the very fabric of our country and turning us into a 3rd world banana republic – that YOU will have to finance. When you import poverty what do you get? More poverty. There are millions of good prospective immigrants overseas WITH SKILLS who have filled out their paperwork, paid their fees, taken their tests, are medically screened – and who are put ON HOLD indefinitely by the Obola administration. Some have waited longer than 10 years! So Obola rewards the criminals who break the rules and punishes the GOOD prospective immigrants who follow the rules!!! How can a nation that rewards bad and punishes good survive? ANSWER: It can’t. Obola is destroying the very fabric of our nation. Ebola destroys individuals. Obola destroys a nation. As soon as Obola gives his executive order for amnesty – this nation is DONE, FINISHED, KAPUT!!!! 🙁

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  15. Terry
    Terry 20 October, 2014, 09:32

    Ca is a perfect example of progressive communist democrats at work. Then add a few Republican progressive communists and all is gone. No free enterprise, no freedom, no Constitution.
    I can’t wait until the day most businesses and private taxpayers are gone.
    There will be welfare people and govt workers left. Are the govt workers going to give up their paychecks to support welfare?
    I bet Brown and the democrats never thought about that.

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  16. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 20 October, 2014, 10:10

    Clippo

    You get here poor…..California takes care of the poor.

    You’re a sullen sot, greedy and pompous….it is time you curtail your silly narcissistic posts and read the tea leaves…

    No one wants poor people dying in streets but you….

    Pity. Go away-

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    • LetitCollapse
      LetitCollapse 20 October, 2014, 10:27

      “You get here poor…..California takes care of the poor.”

      You are a perfect example of why California and America are being destroyed from within. Lenin coined a term to describe people like you: “Useful idiots”

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  17. Richard Rider
    Richard Rider 20 October, 2014, 11:24

    As the story states, California’s real poverty rate (the new census bureau standard adjusted for COL) is easily the worst in the nation at 23.4%.

    Perhaps these numbers from my just-updated fact sheet comparing CA with the other 49 states will help give some feel as to the magnitude of the disparity: We are 57.3% higher than the average for the other 49 states (taking California out of the 50 state average) — dramatically up from 48.8% higher just last year. Indeed, the CA poverty rate is 17.0% higher than 2nd place Nevada. http://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2014/demo/p60-251.pdf page 9

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    • LetitCollapse
      LetitCollapse 20 October, 2014, 11:48

      Thanks for adding your perspective and emphasizing the degree to which Califoria is a disaster zone, Richard.
      Knowing all this, imagine the contempt that the California lawmakers have for our general population when they enact laws like the “Trust Act” and driver’s licenses for illegals when they KNOW FULL WELL that such laws will ONLY INCREASE our poverty rates further by encouraging more illegals to unlawfully migrate and heighten the damage to our quality of life.
      Let me be clear. Our State Legislators are at war with their citizens. They are willfully destroying our once beautiful State and are ruining our quality of life. No other sovereign nation on earth encourages illegal immigration, Richard. Not one. There are MILLIONS of prospective immigrants overseas WITH SKILLS who would LOVE to come to America and live THE LAWFUL WAY. But they are put on hold for 10 years or longer to make room for all the rewarded criminals who came here and stole our jobs and used our resources free of charge!!! THIS IS INSANE!!!! 🙁

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  18. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 20 October, 2014, 12:37

    If voodoo doomer economics worked we would not have poor people…..they would be dead!

    Doomers are big talkers but the little people despise you….

    Thus….your ruled deservedly!

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    • LetitCollapse
      LetitCollapse 20 October, 2014, 12:53

      “If voodoo doomer economics worked we would not have poor people…..they would be dead!”

      So we invite all the world’s indigents to break into our country and then give them free food, free medical care, free education, free CADL’s and if they commit car theft, burglary, etc… after they do their time we let them move back into our neighborhoods???
      Good plan, Xlax!! 😀

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  19. LetitCollapse
    LetitCollapse 20 October, 2014, 13:56

    In a State where the Medi-Cal patients get better service and a better quality of care WITH NO CO-PAYS OR DEDUCTIBLES than consumers who actually PAY PREMIUMS AND DEDUCTIBLES for their healthcare insurance – is it any wonder that California is a friggin’ welfare state??? HAH! Connect the dots, people! Connect the darn dots! 😀

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  20. Richard Rider
    Richard Rider 20 October, 2014, 18:50

    Here’s an eyeopening article I wrote on welfare vs. earning an income. According to the Pennsylvania Department of Welfare, a single parent with two kids making $9,000 a year and signing up for the state’s welfare programs NETS as much as if she had earned $69,000 and then paid taxes. Stated differently, between $9K and $69K, such a parent would face a DE FACTO 100% tax on any earnings because of declining benefits. Zero incentive to improve oneself.
    http://riderrants.blogspot.com/2013/02/yes-100-tax-on-earned-income-for-single.html

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  21. Desmond
    Desmond 20 October, 2014, 19:39

    Brown will resign for “health reasons” in the next term. The s will.hit the fan at some point, and this politician will take the easy way out. He will.blame the next inevitable decline on business greed, accepting no responsible for bloated government. Many of my peers won t pay attention, and the state will overwhelming believe him. I believe the govt is growing too fast now, but the governor and his insiders are good at disguising it. We will have 60 billion deficits soon, and will “need” to increase taxes. Expect some sort of wealth tax on assets. A Democrat run govt will pass the increases after Brown resigns…to protect his legacy.
    California will make civil forfeiture look like the minor leagues. The state needs houses to house the 75 million new refugees invited by the Brown. I hope I am a state computer programmer by then. Someone needs to write the code to keep track of health services, food assistance, child care, internet access, free autos, cell phones, housing for the new citizens.

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  22. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 20 October, 2014, 20:04

    Feed and clothe the poor….they are here….show some compassion.

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  23. SeeSaw
    SeeSaw 20 October, 2014, 20:05

    Brown is fit–I bet he could outdo you around the block several times! State computer programmer?? Isn’t that against your own core values–to get an honest job that might yield a pension in your golden years?

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    • LetitCollapse
      LetitCollapse 20 October, 2014, 23:02

      When I saw Jerry Clown debate Cashncarry on TV ol’ Jerry looked like he had one foot in the grave and was hitting on about 3 cylinders. I too believe he won’t make it through his next term. Didn’t he tell us that he had prostate cancer a year or two ago? Or was that just a publicity stunt to make us feel sorry for him?
      Amazing that public employees work the least and get the best salaries, pensions, benefits, etc…. Just goes to show how corrupted America has become. It used to be that those who worked the hardest got the biggest rewards. Just like everything else in this gamed society, it’s turned backasswards. In general, the deadbeats and the scofflaws get rewarded. The producers get punished. Won’t be long and the entire system will implode. You can’t run a society like that and survive. The Romans tried it. Look what happened to them!!! 😉

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      • SeeSaw
        SeeSaw 21 October, 2014, 15:38

        I watched the debate. Jerry was fine. You must be suffering from failing eyesight along with everything else that is wrong with you.

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  24. SeeSaw
    SeeSaw 20 October, 2014, 20:12

    General Electric, Kaiser Steel, George Air Base, March Air Base, Northrup Grummen, McDonnell Douglas, AeroJet, Lockheed, General Dynamics, Sunkist, etc., etc., etc.–that is why we have poverty in CA–none of it caused by illegal immigrants.

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    • LetitCollapse
      LetitCollapse 20 October, 2014, 23:10

      You and Jerry Clown have a lot in common, seesaw. Neither of you make a lick of sense and both of you belong to the same political party. Diehard liberals! Spend, spend, spend – live high on the hog and let Desmond and the youngin’s fix it somehow after we’re long gone!!! HAH! Real nice! 😀

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  25. Queeg
    Queeg 20 October, 2014, 23:39

    Saw

    Ignore petty criticisms….all those companies left and took the jobs to low cost locations….since Vietnam and finally at the end of Cold War there has been rampant labor exploitation globally. A massive growth of population brought cheap labor and made globallists super stars.

    In California they are called Doomer’s.

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    • S Moderation Douglas
      S Moderation Douglas 21 October, 2014, 18:53

      It was KIND of ironic, a few years ago I happened to see a short news item where some Chinese companies and workers were worried, teed off, etc. because they were losing contracts, their labor was being underbid by South Vietnam.

      It’s the American unions fault for driving out manufacturing by demanding TOO much in pay and benefits. Maybe we could lowbid VietNam?

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  26. Desmond
    Desmond 21 October, 2014, 05:03

    I want to work for the state by time I am 35 so I have a lot of time to surf. I am well paid now, but the hours are significant. I figure I will be surfing at least twice a week working for state plus weekends. I save 40 percent of what I get paid, so retirement shouldn’t need a.pension. I am more focused on getting a cake job. State or county is the best bet.

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    • LetitCollapse
      LetitCollapse 21 October, 2014, 10:17

      Desmond, with government you can split at everyday @ 3pm and just write on the chalk board that you’re on official business out in the field and you can surf every darn day of the week! While you’re being paid by the taxpayer! Supervisors don’t care where you are. Their jobs aren’t at risk if you don’t produce and the government can’t go out of business. In fact, you could probably take an entire week or two off, fly to Hawaii and surf there without officially taking leave. Just save your leave and let it accumulate so that when you retire the government has to pay you for every hour of unused leave. You don’t think that happens??? Hell, it happens all the time! If you get tired of working and want great pay and want to scam the system – join the government! 🙂

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  27. SeeSaw
    SeeSaw 21 October, 2014, 08:40

    So, you evidently plan to be an independent contractor instead of being on the payroll and receiving a pension–nobody wants that–ha-ha.

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  28. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 21 October, 2014, 10:50

    Public servants generally have mundane jobs not filled with diverse challenges due to the sheer volume of paperwork dealing with 40 million residents. They work hard…..they deserve a fair wage.

    Doomers when “O” gives immigrants green cards after the election you better learn a foreign language and get a kayak…they will push you out to sea shouting Carumba…Hasta La Vista Doomero.

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    • LetitCollapse
      LetitCollapse 21 October, 2014, 11:34

      “Doomers when “O” gives immigrants green cards after the election you better learn a foreign language and get a kayak…they will push you out to sea shouting Carumba…Hasta La Vista Doomero.”

      That is talk that I’d expect to hear from a fracken terrorist who delights in our soveriegn nation being invaded and conquered by foreigners who don’t give a damn about Lady Liberty. I hope the foreigners squat you home and throw your butt out onto the street! 😀

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      • T Ted E-- Mind of your Godhead Ted
        T Ted E-- Mind of your Godhead Ted 21 October, 2014, 20:22

        Face it collapso— you’re a drop out doomer with no future– move on kook.

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          LetitCollapse 22 October, 2014, 09:02

          Face it, tedtard— you make wild and untrue accusations about what other posters are thinking. You seem to think that you can read minds, you kook! Stop acting out on the comment board and go get some help!!!

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  29. Desmond
    Desmond 21 October, 2014, 13:42

    Pomeranians, Poodles, Bulldogs, Calicos, Siamese, Buritos, Hot dogs, Fries…etc., etc…that is why we have poverty in CA–none of it caused by illegal immigrants.

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  30. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 21 October, 2014, 16:32

    El clipped So

    Just pointing out your ultimate future….just the messenger…..if you’re a service business owner, greedy rich guy, demanding white belt/shoes senior your in trouble…..Those on the streets have everything to gain due to their exploitation all these years.

    Don’t choke on your Portugues chorizo/ huevos rancheros at Montage or Four Seasons.

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    • LetitCollapse
      LetitCollapse 21 October, 2014, 22:54

      More foreign indigents who are allowed into the State will benefit the rich, the corporations, Wall Street, the oligarchs, etc…. That’s the reason corporate America supports amnesty. More indigents means cheaper labor and fewer benefits. You should have learned that in high school. You must have been absent on the day the teacher explained ‘supply and demand in the labor market’. If 100 job seekers are lined up outside a business submitting applications for a wiget production job – and there are only 5 openings – the business owner can pay rock bottom wages and benefits and easily fill those 5 positions. Common sense, man. I have no idea why you can’t connect those dots.

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