Chargers want out in San Diego

qualcommThe San Diego Chargers — for 54 years a community institution in what’s grown into California’s second-largest city — appear intent on leaving for Los Angeles or another city with a new stadium and greater long-term revenue potential. Attorney Mark Fabiani, the team’s point man on stadium issues, issued statements on Monday and again on Tuesday that made plain the Chargers’ owners no longer believed city officials were capable of achieving or sincere about trying to secure the NFL team a new stadium.

This L.A. Times excerpt addresses the initial developments:

Frustrated by the prospect of another do-nothing stadium task force, the Chargers on Monday warned San Diego to either step up or step aside in the pursuit of a new NFL venue, and again raised the specter of a relocation to Los Angeles. …

Fabiani wrote any stadium proposals should pass a series of “real world tests,” such as it needs to have a strong chance of being approved by the required two-thirds of votes, needs to have the support of the mayor and a majority of the city council, and should “recognize the economic realities of our local marketplace and of the NFL.”

Among those realities, Fabiani wrote, the Chargers cannot be expected to generate the robust preferred-seat-license revenues the San Francisco 49ers and Dallas Cowboys did when building their stadiums.

Members of the task force offered mild reactions to the Chargers’ bluntness. But Fabiani’s response was to raise new questions about the competence and integrity of the city task force.

“Latest salvo in a string of concerns”

This is from the U-T San Diego account posted Tuesday afternoon:

Mayor Kevin Faulconer fired off a letter Tuesday to Chargers President Dean Spanos saying the “divisive tone” from the team is undermining efforts to find a new stadium for the NFL franchise.

It is the latest development in what has become an increasingly acrimonious relationship between the team and the Mayor’s Office over the most recent pursuit of a suitable San Diego home for the Chargers — the team’s goal for more than a decade.

Faulconer’s remarks were aimed at Spanos special counsel Mark Fabiani who, a day after issuing what many viewed as demands of the task force, wrote a letter to the mayor on Tuesday questioning whether the advisory group is truly independent of political influence.

Fabiani’s publicly released comments were the latest salvo in a string of concerns he has raised since Faulconer announced in his January state of the city speech that he would be forming an advisory board to come up with a stadium solution by this fall.

Public subsidies are unlikely

For 14 years, the team — owned by billionaire entrepreneur Alex Spanos and run by son Dean Spanos since his father was afflicted with dementia — has been seeking a new stadium. Qualcomm Stadium in Mission Valley was built in the mid-1960s and is considered one of the NFL’s dowdiest stadiums even after some costly overhauls; only Lambeau Stadium in Green Bay is older. Team officials, at least, believe it can’t be remodeled to include the luxury suites that have become a gold mine for many NFL teams.

A new stadium integrated into a larger mixed retail-housing zone on the Qualcomm site was the early focus, but the 2004 election of Chargers’ foe Mike Aguirre as San Diego city attorney followed by the collapse of the housing market killed that plan. In more recent years, interest centered on a new $800 million to $1 billion stadium in the city’s downtown, near the taxpayer-subsidized Petco Park baseball stadium — either a standalone football stadium or one integrated with the bigger Convention Center the city needs to build downtown to continue to attract Comic-Con and other lucrative gatherings.

But the team has always made plain that it expects public subsidies, something that elected leaders promised would only happen if voters supported them in a referendum. Few observers think the Chargers could win half the vote, much less the legally required two-thirds of the vote, in such an election in a city scarred by years of fiscal problems and reduced services.

In recent months, while being somewhat optimistic on the record, team officials have made particularly clear in not-for-attribution interviews that they needed some sign of progress.

Conventional wisdom vs. the view of insiders

But Faulconer’s turn to another task force infuriated the Chargers — at least if the conventional wisdom is to be believed.

That conventional wisdom has been mocked for years — off the record — by many prominent San Diegans. Their view was that as soon as it seemed likely an NFL-blessed and possibly subsidized stadium could be built in Los Angeles, the Chargers would be on their way — either as the lead team or the secondary team sharing the facility. The huge financial success of the New York Giants and New York Jets sharing a stadium in north New Jersey is a key factor in the league’s eagerness for an L.A. dual-team facility.

If this more cynical view is accepted, then Fabiani’s actions of the past two days look to be calculated to make him be the villain of both contemporary and historical accounts of why the Chargers left San Diego — not the Spanos family that has paid the former Clinton White House spin doctor lavishly for more than a dozen years.

But there’s another twist that makes the Spanoses’ eagnerness to move to L.A. even more plausible. The Los Angeles Rams and Raiders may not have enjoyed consistently good attendance before fleeing in 1994 for St. Louis and Oakland, respectively, but the value of having a professional sports franchise in the nation’s second-largest metropolitan area looks more immense then ever after the recent sales of the Los Angeles Dodgers and Los Angeles Clippers.

The Dodgers fetched $2.15 billion and the Clippers — which don’t even own the arena in which they play — cost $2 billion. No MLB or NBA team has ever been sold for even half that much money.

Given that the NFL is much more popular than the NBA or baseball, the incentives for Fabiani to offer himself up as a distracting villain for a team completely committed to leaving San Diego are plain. The Chargers could be worth $1 billion more in Los Angeles than the city 110 miles south on I-5.


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  1. Dyspeptic
    Dyspeptic 18 February, 2015, 10:22

    Frankly who cares if the Chargers leave San Diego. They can fly to the moon as far as I’m concerned. I just hope they don’t end up in Orange County, where we have enough sense not to host a subsidized, over hyped, meathead sport like American Football.

    Hypothetically, if the Chargers did abscond from San Diego, wouldn’t that result in a significant drop in wife beating, illegal dog fights, concealed deadly weapons charges and homicide?

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  2. Richard Rider
    Richard Rider 19 February, 2015, 12:40

    If the Chargers leave, one little-understood benefit is that the “LA Chargers” would likely sell out every game (the LA Basin is SIX TIMES the size of the San Diego region market). That means “our” Charger games will no longer be blacked out.

    Blackouts will get WORSE if the Chargers get their new stadium and massive ticket price increases. Too many locals simply can’t afford a $100 price INCREASE per ticket (my guess as to the average ticket price increase).

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  3. Richard Rider
    Richard Rider 19 February, 2015, 12:44

    Charger attack dog/attorney Mark Fabiani and his masters want to (further) rig the Charger Task Force — having already booted Steve Cushman off the panel.

    The Mayor should counter that the city will not longer deal with Fabiani. Period.

    But then, that might just be playing into Fabiani’s strategy of blaming the local San Diego politicians — assuming the team plans to move to LA (not that the NFL will LET them move).

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  4. Richard Rider
    Richard Rider 19 February, 2015, 13:11

    Is it a surprise that the Charger owners are again threatening that they’ll would leave unless they get a new taxpayer-subsidized stadium? Can you IMAGINE the Chargers telling the city “Ether way, we’ll stay in San Diego”?

    Is there any firm indication that the NFL will LET the Chargers relocate to LA? How and who will pay for that LA stadium?

    And even if the league puts out such hints, isn’t that all part of the ongoing NFL subsidized stadium ruse that has been foisted on city after city? Is such a huge subsidy for millionaires (players) and billionaires (owners) a proper function of government? Should America’s Finest City cave to such blackmail?

    If the Chargers stay and they get their new subsidized stadium (largely for fewer, higher-priced seats and opulent sky boxes), who is going to pay for that luxury when LA gets an NFL team — considering that probably 30% of current Charger sky box renters are LA-area companies that will stop doing so when LA gets a team?

    THOSE are just SOME of the questions that the Charger commission should be considering.

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    • Rex the Wonder Dog!
      Rex the Wonder Dog! 20 February, 2015, 20:56

      Is there any firm indication that the NFL will LET the Chargers relocate to LA?

      Richard, the NFL has NO legal authority to stop ANY team from relocating to anywhere they want to relocate to. I think Al Davis proved that in spades back in 1982-85 when he sued the NFL under anti-trust law and won treble damages.

      Once reason is because the NFL is STILL requiring a 75% approval rate of the owners to move a team, and the courts in the Raider anti-trust litigation flat out said that was illegal. If the NFL changed that to a simply majority vote, anything over 50%, then that would be legal, but the NFL is full of knuckleheads who still cannot add 2+2= and come up with 4….

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  5. JHayes
    JHayes 20 February, 2015, 08:53

    Let me get the door for you Chargers. My son and I used to love the Chargers in the 1990’s and early 2000’s. I get that you can’t make the playoffs every year, even though the team had far more than enough talent. I just got sick of all the bitching and finger pointing by the owners, managers and coaches. I have been hearing forever about the Chargers leaving San Diego. They have just become that annoying girlfriend that always wants to break up, but never actually leaves. If the Chargers want to know why they can’t fill a stadium and why there is no fan loyalty, maybe they should first look at all the loyalty they have shown their fans.

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  6. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 21 February, 2015, 12:42


    My Gosh! Never had a girlfriend like that…..

    What have been doing????

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  7. ernie ladd
    ernie ladd 1 December, 2015, 07:28

    I only heard it once that the Carson site was an old landfill. would they have to dig it all up . could they get the proper permits and who would want to go to a garbage dump?

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    • Richard Rider
      Richard Rider 1 December, 2015, 08:30

      Good point! Obviously clueless billionaire Spanos ET AL haven’t thought much about the move. They don’t care about fans showing up games, or leasing sky boxes to corporations, or selling more, higher-priced tickets, or increasing the resale value of the team.

      Your “dump” insight should be sent special delivery to the Charters forthwith. THAT revelation will cause them to drop the Carson project! I suspect they will reward you well for your brilliant observation.

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Chris Reed is a regular contributor to Cal Watchdog. Reed is an editorial writer for U-T San Diego. Before joining the U-T in July 2005, he was the opinion-page columns editor and wrote the featured weekly Unspin column for The Orange County Register. Reed was on the national board of the Association of Opinion Page Editors from 2003-2005. From 2000 to 2005, Reed made more than 100 appearances as a featured news analyst on Los Angeles-area National Public Radio affiliate KPCC-FM. From 1990 to 1998, Reed was an editor, metro columnist and film critic at the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin in Ontario. Reed has a political science degree from the University of Hawaii (Hilo campus), where he edited the student newspaper, the Vulcan News, his senior year. He is on Twitter: @chrisreed99.

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