Bill to create ‘segregated’ school discipline

June 1, 2012

Katy Grimes: With all of the recent talk about nanny states and politicians interjecting themselves into the personal lives of citizens, another such bill was passed in the Assembly Thursday. But this bill will allow the state of California to dictate the grounds for school suspensions and expulsions, but is focused primarily on black students, children of color, and LGBT students.

Apparently the “disparity in suspensions and expulsions for Black students, especially males, and students with disabilities,” is the reason for the bill.

AB 2242 by Assemblyman Roger Dickinson, D-Sacramento, “prohibits out-of-school suspensions and expulsions due to disruption of school activities and willfully defying the  authority of school officials.”

These usually are perfectly legitimate reasons for discipline by school officials.

According to Dickinson, “this bill addresses the overuse of out-of-school suspensions under the category of “disrupting school activities or otherwise willfully defying the authority of supervisors, teachers, administrators, school officials or other school personnel.”

What’s behind this inane abuse of state authority?

The bill’s analysis explains: “A University of California, Los Angeles’ Civil Rights Project October 2011 brief titled “Discipline Policies, Successful Schools, and Racial Justice,” report that data gathered by the U.S. Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights shows disparity in suspensions and expulsions for Black students, especially males, and students with disabilities.”

In floor debate Thursday over AB 2242, Dickinson told of two extreme situations in which teachers expelled kids for merely speaking up or asking questions in class.

Instead of opting to change the impossible teacher discipline process to deal with bad public school teachers who may be improperly disciplining some students, Dickinson’s answer is to ease up on the punishment teachers are allowed to administer… but only on children of color and LGBT students.

Assemblyman Ricardo Lara, D-Bell gardens, chimed in that LGBT youth are disproportionately disciplined in public schools. Lara is one of seven members of the legislative LBGT Caucus.

“Are you kidding me?” Assemblyman Brian Jones, R-Santee asked. “This is ridiculous. Let’s just take out the teachers and administrators and let the kids run the schools.”

Democratic Assemblyman Sandre Swanson of Oakland said “kids are penalized just for raising their hand in class.” Then when they are expelled, Swanson said they move into the juvenile justice system.

“What in the world are we doing?” asked Assemblyman Tim Donnelly, R-Hesperia. “Because you happen to be of color or a certain orientation, we are creating a whole new society. We are creating segregation within schools. No wonder the rest of the world is laughing at us.”

The conflicting UCLA report

“Disruptions tend to increase or decrease with the skill of the teacher in providing engaging instruction and in managing the classroom—areas many teachers say they would like help improving,” the UCLA report found.

“Yet despite these apparent connections to classroom management and quality of instruction, policymakers often treat student misbehavior as a problem originating solely with students and their parents. This ignores the potentially key roles played by teachers, teacher training, school leadership, or the school system.”

These findings would suggest that more attention should be paid to teacher training, preparedness and skill levels. Instead, Dickinson’s bill not only does not hold teachers more accountable for their own behaviors, it lets ill-behaving students off the hook.

“Our public schools are essential to preparing our children to participate fully in our economic and democratic future,” the UCLA civil rights report states. “With these interests at stake, U.S. policymakers must find more effective ways to educate all of the nation’s children, including those who may be challenging to engage.”

With this conclusion, how can Dickinson, with a straight face, suggest that disruptive students are being mistreated, and should receive more leniency from teachers?

Take a look at the list of supporters and the bill’s sponsors:

Public Counsel (co-sponsor) 
Youth Law Center (co-sponsor) 
American Civil Liberties Union 
Californians for Justice Education Fund 
Children Now 
Children’s Defense Fund 
Coleman Advocates for Children & Youth 
Disability Rights Education & Defense Fund 
Disability Rights Legal Center 
Fight Crime: Invest in Kids California 
Labor/Community Strategy Center 
Legal Advocates for Children & Youth 
Legal Services for Children 
Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund 
New America Foundation 
PICO California 
Restorative Schools Vision Project 
Youth and Education Law Project, Mills Legal Clinic 
Several individuals 

I’ve never even heard of some of these special interest groups.

Assemblyman Donnelly is right–this is why the rest of the world is laughing at California.


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  1. Beelzebub
    Beelzebub 1 June, 2012, 15:42

    God almighty. There is already chaos in K-12 in California. Now they are pouring more gasoline onto the fire. Now teachers will have to be provided with flack vests at state expense while on school grounds.

    Katy, the proposed law doesn’t just apply to ‘black’ students, does it? It applies to ‘all’ students, correct?

    So now students who always wanted to be disruptive and to challenge authority but didn’t out of fear of punishment – now have nothing holding them back since they can’t be expelled.

    Btw, that old secret that nobody dares talk about is that about 4% of our total population (black males, 16-34 yoa) commit about 50% of the murders in America. So in order to avoid any hint of racial discrimination what will Sactown do next?? No one can be incarcerated for murder anymore since there is an implication of racial bias??? heh.

    This country is so, so screwed up. I feel so, so sorry for the young kids coming up through the ranks. And it was the baby boomers who have caused most of this mess. At least my parent’s generation had a semblance of common sense. The boomers who are running things now are driving us right off the edge of the cliff.

    God help us.

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  2. Donkey
    Donkey 1 June, 2012, 16:07

    This is plain insanity, “One Flew Over the Cookoo’s Nest” without the acting! 😉

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  3. queeg
    queeg 2 June, 2012, 07:02

    Student achievement, a positive learning enviro,constructive mentors and role models must be goals in public education….no child left behind ala G.W. Bush….beating on kids only brings dispair…lets pull together and pay for good teachers and courageous admin support staff!

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  4. Beelzebub
    Beelzebub 2 June, 2012, 09:18

    “……..lets pull together and pay for good teachers and courageous admin support staff!”

    We have already put them in the top 5% for salaries and pension benefits. And during that time education performance has declined significantly. What do you want us to do??? Sign contracts to offer our firstborn sons to a life of indentured servitude so that teachers and their cronies can live like Warren Buffet?

    America was designed to reward excellence and punish failure. If we followed this rule with California teachers most would be collecting minimum wage.

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  5. queeg
    queeg 2 June, 2012, 10:30

    Hazard pay baby!!!

    Someone gotta educate victims of globalism!!!

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  6. PJ
    PJ 2 June, 2012, 11:22

    Plus, schools lose state money when they lose students, don’t they? So is this another way to keep the money flowing?

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  7. Beelzebub
    Beelzebub 2 June, 2012, 13:15

    “Plus, schools lose state money when they lose students, don’t they? So is this another way to keep the money flowing?”

    You bet, PJ. Follow the money trail!!!

    I predict that it won’t be long before a student will be able to coldcock the teachers on their butts and the teachers will be forced to get up off the ground and apologize to the student.

    Go ahead and laugh.

    You laughed when I told you that the Long-Legged Mac Daddy would eventually take away your due process rights too! By God – he did it with NDAA!!!

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  8. queeg
    queeg 3 June, 2012, 09:26

    Schools need support to raise the poor out of poverty caused by globalism and mean spirited 1%’ers hiding money offshore in foreign corporate bank accounts.

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  9. Beelzebub
    Beelzebub 3 June, 2012, 09:47

    “Schools need support to raise the poor out of poverty caused by globalism….”

    Yet it’s the globalists who are promoting free education in America for illegal invader migrants and you seem to give a stand ovation for that!! HAH!

    So you want America to not only elevate Americans in poverty – you want us to elevate MEXICANS, HONDURANS, NICARAGUANS, BELIZEANS, GUATAMALANS, etc…. in poverty with our taxdollars too.

    But if the government sent you an invitation to send them 20% more of your income with a postage free envelope to stamp out poverty – you would toss it into the garbage because you want to SPREAD YOUR MISERY!!! You are not satisfied being miserable on your own!!! HAH! 😀

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  10. queeg
    queeg 3 June, 2012, 10:03

    We all can afford a modest amount to improve society..more so for the more talented and prosperous….Warren Buffet thinks so….

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  11. Beelzebub
    Beelzebub 3 June, 2012, 16:51

    “We all can afford a modest amount to improve society….”

    Yep. As I suspected. He wants to spread the misery.

    Liberal fascism at work! 🙂

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  12. queeg
    queeg 3 June, 2012, 17:16

    Facism was never liberal!

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  13. Beelzebub
    Beelzebub 3 June, 2012, 21:41

    “Facism was never liberal!”

    Hitler was an avowed socialist, genius.

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  14. queeg
    queeg 3 June, 2012, 23:15

    Beezie…liberals are not killers they are lovers!

    Have a good week being you!

    Be kind to Teddy…

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  15. Beelzebub
    Beelzebub 4 June, 2012, 13:07

    Hitler was a psychopathic killer and terrorist.

    And he was an avowed socialist – FACT!

    If you question that go read the what the acroynm NAZI stands for.

    Here, I’ll help you.

    NAZI = Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei.

    Focus on the word “sozialistische” = SOCIALIST. heh.

    PROOF that cannot be disputed.

    Have a good day.

    PS. Say ‘hi’ to Teddy for me. 🙂

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  16. Beelzebub
    Beelzebub 4 June, 2012, 19:37

    Looks like Queeq is MIA. My last post knocked him out of the ring. Somebody call an ambulance!!! HAH! 😀

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